Mr GetBig II website is live!

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

So you were VOLUNTARILY promoting the show, without mindspin agreeing with it?

And now you're pissed about it?]

Dude, you CHOSE to promote the show.  Please tell us who you "got to sign up", will ya?

That's how there was a FIRST MR GETBIG, DUMBASS.  Everyone from different companies came together to make it happen.  There was no contracts or etc.  It was basically a grassroots effort with worked out great.



Mindspin took advantage of that to sign an exclusive sponsor and let every other sponsor promote and build up the event until the last minute.  Because there is no signed agreement, none of us can go and take legal action however it does unfortunately there will most likely never be another Mr Getbig, at least not in the sense of fairness and ethics.  

  
Simply look at last years website and then look at this years website and you'll see my point.  Looks like a commericalized Progenex sponsored event now rather than a Mr Getbig contest doesn't it.


Everyone knows I was running around promoting the event and this happens two weeks before the event.  Like I said, I'm not going to slap CQ but if I see Yemeni around, its not going to be pretty.  What comes around will go around and he'll reap what he sowed


  

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Gotta tell ya I agree with Goodrum on this one.  Mindspin has no idea what making this company the exclusive and not allowing any other type of exposure for the other companies.  If I was one of the sponsor I would simply pull out now. It will be great to see him grab sponsors next year after fucking the ones this year.  How many competitors are there.  Also, is the prize money going to be taxed.  Who pays it.  Does the company take out the taxes or are they having the competitors file a 1099.  Last years show was more promoted and had a bigger field and more hype.  It was great bringing in a bunch of different sponsors who were willing to take a chance on a contest never done before like this. 

We don't see eye to eye all the time but you understand from a promoter side of running bodybuilding show.  And by law, his actions void any involvement of me in this event because he did sign an exclusive agreement.   

But I learned my lesson.  Always have it in writing. 

[240 is Back]

there will most likely never be another Mr Getbig, at least not in the sense of fairness and ethics.  

Vince - if Mindspin and CQ had willingly accepted your offer - I could see being upset.

They passed on small sponsors and accepted one large sponsor.  It guarantees that everyone in the show gets their money, and a lot more of it.  Last year, we had a real problem with some sponsors who didn't pay up as promised.  I wouldn't burn them, as it's just not good business sense, but some of them did not pay up.  We spent many hours chasing down prize money, having boxes and checks mailed to 6 different addresses.  It was a very messy process.

This time, Mindspin went in the direction of one sponsor, 5 large checks, and that is it.   As far as acutal cash, last year we had about 1000, I believe.  The rest was product credit, which is hard to collect and spend.

The competitors will appreciate checks of $2000, or $1200, or $1000, or whatever, far more than chasing down companies for the next 12 months.   For them, it's a win.

And again, I could see being upset, if Mindspin and CQ had said to you "We accept your sponsorship, Vince " but it was not the case.  If they had promised you the right to be a sponsor, I could see being pissed.  To me it just seems like MS decided to go with one big sponsor - and a big check for the winner - instead of multiples.  This was his choice.  Perhaps Mr GetBig 3 will be different, I do not know.  I was not involved in the decision making of Mr GB2.  

[Livewire]

We don't see eye to eye all the time but you understand from a promoter side of running bodybuilding show.  And by law, his actions void any involvement of me in this event because he did sign an exclusive agreement.   

what was your reason for bitching out of the show?

hahahahaha

[CQ]

Vince - if Mindspin and CQ had willingly accepted your offer - I could see being upset.

They passed on small sponsors and accepted one large sponsor.  It guarantees that everyone in the show gets their money, and a lot more of it.  Last year, we had a real problem with some sponsors who didn't pay up as promised.  I wouldn't burn them, as it's just not good business sense, but some of them did not pay up.  We spent many hours chasing down prize money, having boxes and checks mailed to 6 different addresses.  It was a very messy process.

This time, Mindspin went in the direction of one sponsor, 5 large checks, and that is it.   As far as acutal cash, last year we had about 1000, I believe.  The rest was product credit, which is hard to collect and spend.

The competitors will appreciate checks of $2000, or $1200, or $1000, or whatever, far more than chasing down companies for the next 12 months.   For them, it's a win.

And again, I could see being upset, if Mindspin and CQ had said to you "We accept your sponsorship, Vince " but it was not the case.  If they had promised you the right to be a sponsor, I could see being pissed.  To me it just seems like MS decided to go with one big sponsor - and a big check for the winner - instead of multiples.  This was his choice.  Perhaps Mr GetBig 3 will be different, I do not know.  I was not involved in the decision making of Mr GB2.  

Excellent post.

That is one good aspect about the one company sponsorship deal, am I the only one who recalls thread after thread from people last year saying they did not get their prizes etc?

Apart from the fact that I also had zero to do with making any sponsorship decisions, I can state that I was never contacted by Vince with an offer for sponsorship, not did I ever approach him to sponsor, nor accept an offer. The only communication between us was me thanking him for sponsoring last year - and since he himself posted my pm's in this thread which proves that fact, that is totally unrefutable.

Like MS already said, this is in the spirit of fun; a message board show, designed by board members, for the board members, with board members as competitors. It's all good, and the guys have 1 week left to get ready

[sgt. d]

CQ give Vince some pussy so he will stop crying

[Paul Allen]

CQ give Vince some pussy so he will stop crying

he could never get a woman with such beauty and brawn.

maybe a white trash crackhead.

[MindSpin]

I still want to know how many women Vince has slapped

[sgt. d]

I still want to know how many women Vince has slapped

Why is Vince trying to fight women? 

[AVBG]

Vince is a fool.

[garraeth]

[nycbull]

I think the creation of a "community board" made up of 10 or 12 getbig regulars from diversified backgrounds should be set up as part of the creative team that puts together MR. Getbig 3. That board will act collecitively as one voice representing the entire board as a whole.

I think you, CQ, Mindspin, Ron, should pass your ideas before them and see what their collective response is. You can weight their opinion as you wish but at least have their input.  The boards responsiblitiy would be to represent the members of getbig as best they can and to come to majority  decision on the issues presented to them.  At least getbig members will feel they have some representation.

[CQ]

Why is Vince trying to fight women? 

Because he lacks common decency

I thanked him for sponsoring the show last year 3 times, I apologised to him twice for any offence caused....plus it has been made clear that Mindspin handled all sponsorship decsions not myself, so Mindspin was the one who 'turned him down' anyway, not me. Never a cause to threaten a woman IMO, but in this case Vince did not even have any justification to even be mad at me

The guy is just a mess.

[The Squadfather]

I think the creation of a "community board" made up of 10 or 12 getbig regulars from diversified backgrounds should be set up as part of the creative team that puts together MR. Getbig 3. That board will act collecitively as one voice representing the entire board as a whole.

I think you, CQ, Mindspin, Ron, should pass your ideas before them and see what their collective response is. You can weight their opinion as you wish but at least have their input.  The boards responsiblitiy would be to represent the members of getbig as best they can and to come to majority  decision on the issues presented to them.  At least getbig members will feel they have some representation.

i agree Bull and "onlyme" could be the representative of the over 45, fat, out of shape, over the hill, has been, Phillipino/Mexican backround.

[garraeth]

i agree Bull and "onlyme" could be the representative of the over 45, fat, out of shape, over the hill, has been, Phillipino/Mexican backround.

Who would Pumper and Vince B. represent?

[The Squadfather]

Who would Pumper and Vince B. represent?

the fat out of shape pedophile crowd.

[garraeth]

the fat out of shape pedophile crowd.

Vince G., True Adonis and Bast?

[The Squadfather]

Vince G., True Adonis and Bast?

TA and Bast aren't in the same crowd as a fool like Vince, both TA and Bast are muscular and built, Vince is a joke.

[Rimbaud]

Not this time.  This is a business matter but I may have to raise my pimp hand if I ever see these clowns on the street.

What the fuck is wrong with you Vince?

[CQ]

I think the creation of a "community board" made up of 10 or 12 getbig regulars from diversified backgrounds should be set up as part of the creative team that puts together MR. Getbig 3. That board will act collecitively as one voice representing the entire board as a whole.

I think you, CQ, Mindspin, Ron, should pass your ideas before them and see what their collective response is. You can weight their opinion as you wish but at least have their input.  The boards responsiblitiy would be to represent the members of getbig as best they can and to come to majority  decision on the issues presented to them.  At least getbig members will feel they have some representation.

I don't even know why I bother, as people are just bitching about everything thay can think of, but I will clarify anyway.

As far as input, we have an *entire* board dedicated to this show. For months we had thread after thread asking for input. We asked for judges nominations, ideas about rules, and new things to add or improvements to make last year. We totally and entirely spent months asking for suggestions, board approval, votes, posting our ideas and asking for feedback etc. Check the board, numerous threads exist stemming from months ago.

Most people choose *not* to offer any suggestions, but wait to the last minute and bitch up a storm.

[garraeth]

TA and Bast aren't in the same crowd as a fool like Vince, both TA and Bast are muscular and built, Vince is a joke.

But you and nycbull just agreed that it would be best if there were a panel created of 10 - 12 board regulars. The people I named visit the board on a very regular basis. Oh, and don't forget Bluto. He's really regular. Oh and sevantise (sp?).

Monster of an idea nycbull had.

[The Squadfather]

hahahhaa, it makes me laugh, CQ and Mindspin get 5 fuccking grand prize money for an internet message board bb'ing contest where the previous years prizes were a couple of jugs of protein to the winner and all some of you shitstains do is complain.

[MindSpin]

I don't even know why I bother, as people are just bitching about everything thay can think of, but I will clarify anyway.

As far as input, we have an *entire* board dedicated to this show. For months we had thread after thread asking for input. We asked for judges nominations, ideas about rules, and new things to add or improvements to make last year. We totally and entirely spent months asking for suggestions, board approval, votes, posting our ideas and asking for feedback etc. Check the board, numerous threads exist stemming from months ago.

Most people choose *not* to offer any suggestions, but wait to the last minute and bitch up a storm.

Took the words right out of my mouth err keyboard.  Pretty much everytying about the Mr. GetBig has been a collective decision.  Mr GB III will be no exception.

[MindSpin]

hahahhaa, it makes me laugh, CQ and Mindspin get 5 fuccking grand prize money for an internet message board bb'ing contest where the previous years prizes were a couple of jugs of protein to the winner and all some of you shitstains do is complain.

LOL at your signature.

[Rimbaud]

I've wandered through most of this thread & I'd still like to know did Vince back out of the show or what? Because I think in his mind/world there's enough of an excuse to.