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Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« on: September 24, 2007, 05:19:49 PM »
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2007, 05:20:17 PM »
hahahaha, that was brutal.

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 05:22:56 PM »
hahahaha, that was brutal.

Truth hurts. Markus looked like shit up there and Paco got the native nod. Ronny Rockel got screwed out of his 2nd pro win.

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007, 10:34:45 AM »
double R got the shaft like he always does and will this weekend, its a shame

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2007, 10:39:49 AM »
This thread needs Pics bros ..
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2007, 11:16:34 AM »
This thread needs Pics bros ..

This guy is correct.
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2007, 11:41:22 AM »
rockel is one of the best pros IMO

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2007, 11:44:33 AM »
I like Markus but ahead of Rockel in this contest?  Um, no.  >:(

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2007, 11:45:54 AM »
Ronnie Rockel in all honesty would make my top 3 for the Mr. O

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2007, 11:46:59 AM »
I like Markus but ahead of Rockel in this contest?  Um, no.  >:(

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2007, 11:48:48 AM »
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2007, 12:08:01 PM »
It's not even close.  :(

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 12:24:54 PM »
Conditioning wise, Rockell was better.  The size difference when standing between two giants was far to much for conditioning to overcome.

Let's get real guys.  He's no sharper that Dex.  RR would be lucky to crack top 15 at the O.  Way to many big guys for him to compete with.
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2007, 12:29:03 PM »

I like Markus but ahead of Rockel in this contest?  Um, no.  >:(

If Rockell was 6'1" he'd be unbeatable, he's got some of the best shape and conditioning around.
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2007, 01:06:04 PM »
Let's get real guys.  He's no sharper that Dex.  RR would be lucky to crack top 15 at the O.  Way to many big guys for him to compete with.

Mevlin Anthony manages it and he's no better than RR

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2007, 01:09:38 PM »
If Rockell was 6'1" he'd be unbeatable, he's got some of the best shape and conditioning around.

Even if he was 5'10 he would probably be unbeatable.  Kind of hard for him to beat Markus when he is five inches shorter.
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2007, 01:11:45 PM »
Even if he was 5'10 he would probably be unbeatable.  Kind of hard for him to beat Markus when he is five inches shorter.
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2007, 01:43:49 PM »
Conditioning wise, Rockell was better.  The size difference when standing between two giants was far to much for conditioning to overcome.

Let's get real guys.  He's no sharper that Dex.  RR would be lucky to crack top 15 at the O.  Way to many big guys for him to compete with.

this is the core problem in bb today.

a fridge with masses of unsymmetrical, grotesque muscle has "too much mass" for a lean, conditioned, perfectly balanced, very well muscled shorter man despite that shorter guy being picturesque.

completely contradicts the foundations and fundamentals of BB.

even as a business case- people go for the eye candy..not the lumps of skin. sure have the behemoths in there for the novelty value, but they arent the driver for bums on seats...

i think the ifbb thinks they are.

year in year out our national and regional shows award first place to the best BB. It's never been a problem here in Australia on that level.


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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2007, 01:47:49 PM »
this is the core problem in bb today.

a fridge with masses of unsymmetrical, grotesque muscle has "too much mass" for a lean, conditioned, perfectly balanced, very well muscled shorter man despite that shorter guy being picturesque.

completely contradicts the foundations and fundamentals of BB.

even as a business case- people go for the eye candy..not the lumps of skin. sure have the behemoths in there for the novelty value, but they arent the driver for bums on seats...

i think the ifbb thinks they are.

year in year out our national and regional shows award first place to the best BB. It's never been a problem here in Australia on that level.



spot on, the 'more is better' mentality ruined BBing

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2007, 01:53:40 PM »
Rockels arms are perfect. One of the most complete bodybuilders. And good lookin to boot.

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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2007, 02:00:18 PM »
Mevlin Anthony manages it and he's no better than RR

Melvin Anthony is a lot more well known that RR and RR is not even close to Melvin in terms of shape and structure.  RR was in superb conditioning.  Not saying it's fair, it is what it is.  BB right now is about packing the most mass one possibly can on a physique.

For a shorter guy to make an impact against the freaks, He'd have to have unGodly type mass, and that doesn't really work either.  Look at Lee P, great mass for his size, but put him next to Cutler, Coleman, or Rhul and he disappears. 

There are of course Polar opposites, Small guys that are shredded and Big tall guys that make you say OMG.  They are simply in the show to stir controversy and have people going He should have won.  Maybe next year......securing tickets for the next big show. 

IFBB shows are simply to display what is humanly possible, if you want to see a contest, go to the bigger NPC events.  Weight classes make it so BB contests are judged somewhat fairly.
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2007, 02:03:35 PM »
Rockel is flawless,perfect...Whats wrong with being short(i aint).Why cant a short bb win the Olympia?Its a bb contest not a height contest.If a short bb cant win then why an ugly faced like coleman can win?Is it a model contest?
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2007, 02:05:19 PM »
and RR is way better than Melvin,cant you see,Melvin is soft...
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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2007, 02:08:16 PM »
Melvin Anthony is a lot more well known that RR and RR is not even close to Melvin in terms of shape and structure.  RR was in superb conditioning.  Not saying it's fair, it is what it is.  BB right now is about packing the most mass one possibly can on a physique.

For a shorter guy to make an impact against the freaks, He'd have to have unGodly type mass, and that doesn't really work either.  Look at Lee P, great mass for his size, but put him next to Cutler, Coleman, or Rhul and he disappears. 

There are of course Polar opposites, Small guys that are shredded and Big tall guys that make you say OMG.  They are simply in the show to stir controversy and have people going He should have won.  Maybe next year......securing tickets for the next big show. 

IFBB shows are simply to display what is humanly possible, if you want to see a contest, go to the bigger NPC events.  Weight classes make it so BB contests are judged somewhat fairly.

Good post, I disagree with the highlighted point, I think RR is every bit Melvins equal is shape size and structure and just over all looks the better bodybuilder. But the rest of it is spot on


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Re: Markus Ruhl is soft. Rockel got shafted
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2007, 02:11:15 PM »
Rockel is flawless,perfect...Whats wrong with being short(i aint).Why cant a short bb win the Olympia?Its a bb contest not a height contest.If a short bb cant win then why an ugly faced like coleman can win?Is it a model contest?

Meltdown.....  Calm down tiger it's just a BB show.  If you're not RR, you shouldn't care so much.

As to your argument that he is flawless.....well he is missing about 30lbs of mass.  When he does a FDB and you look at him from an off center angle you can see how much thickness he is missing in his chest. 

Being cut alone doesn't win shows.  You needs a good structure, muscle mass and conditioning.  The other guys that beat him had two out of the three, RR just brought the last of the three.  RR is great for what he is, but unless everyone over 5'6" dies, he's not going to be Mr. O.  He'd have a hard time getting past David Henry.

Good post, I disagree with the highlighted point, I think RR is every bit Melvins equal is shape size and structure and just over all looks the better bodybuilder. But the rest of it is spot on



Melvin has wider shoulders and is capable of carrying more mass with an equal or slightly smaller waist than RR.  Hence better structure.  Just looks at what they both weigh.
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