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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #150 on: January 25, 2008, 11:37:07 AM »
Whole list is pointless.

It's not about some lousy average. It's about winning shows.

I'm supposed to be impressed with someone getting 50-60% outta 100% for the last couple of months, yet not ONCE win a show and beat the rest of us betting on it?  ::)
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #151 on: January 25, 2008, 11:42:16 AM »
This ranking system favors those with less fights.  You should get a point for every win you pick and let that be your score.  The more right picks, the higher your score...simple.

thats fine but that wont encourage any new people to bet.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #152 on: January 25, 2008, 11:51:33 AM »
Whole list is pointless.

It's not about some lousy average. It's about winning shows.

I'm supposed to be impressed with someone getting 50-60% outta 100% for the last couple of months, yet not ONCE win a show and beat the rest of us betting on it?  ::)

So we are supposed to be impressed with someone who ties one show and then can't bet to save his life on any other card?

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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #153 on: January 25, 2008, 11:54:19 AM »
So we are supposed to be impressed with someone who ties one show and then can't bet to save his life on any other card?

A winner is always more impressive than a loser.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #154 on: January 25, 2008, 11:57:11 AM »
A winner is always more impressive than a loser.

Id rather average 20 points a night then to show up and score 45 one night and then get shut the FUCK DOWN EVERY OTHER TIME... :-X

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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #155 on: January 25, 2008, 11:57:57 AM »
thats fine but that wont encourage any new people to bet.

The less complicated it is, the more people will bet.

That's why I try to make it as less complicated as possible.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #156 on: January 25, 2008, 12:02:16 PM »
Id rather average 20 points a night then to show up and score 45 one night and then get shut the FUCK DOWN EVERY OTHER TIME... :-X

I don't know what that means.

But I know this - I'm a winner and you're not.
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« Reply #157 on: January 25, 2008, 04:34:24 PM »
thats fine but that wont encourage any new people to bet.

Perhaps.  But, there would always be a winner for each fight, as well as an overall winer for cumulative points...
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #158 on: January 25, 2008, 04:49:10 PM »

congrats to danielson for betting 100% and moving up to 2nd place

Thanks MGM.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #159 on: January 26, 2008, 03:47:01 PM »
UFC 82: Evan Tanner vs. Yushin Okami official

Wrong thread fatty lumpkin
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #160 on: February 04, 2008, 11:27:56 AM »
does everybody still want the standings?
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #161 on: February 04, 2008, 11:50:23 AM »
here's the standings for ufc 81

#1 bdsauce
#2 sincitysmallguy
#3 bluto

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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #162 on: February 04, 2008, 02:30:48 PM »
The less complicated it is, the more people will bet.

That's why I try to make it as less complicated as possible.

You didn't make shit, Danielson came up with the idea, and milfer tallies the scores, all you do is copy and paste names into a thread.  As for the complication comment, it's always been fight by fight, point by point.  You don't get more points for a KO, or decision or main card fights, that just makes it more complicated, and you just make shit up as you go along.  Shit aint official until Milfer puts his midas touch on it, when he does I will honor his results.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #163 on: February 04, 2008, 05:02:13 PM »
sorry guys i will post the standings tomorrow
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #164 on: February 04, 2008, 05:32:20 PM »
You didn't make shit, Danielson came up with the idea, and milfer tallies the scores, all you do is copy and paste names into a thread.

I do 99% of the work and I have been since day 1.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #165 on: February 04, 2008, 05:49:04 PM »
sorry guys i will post the standings tomorrow

Don't bother.

It needs to be fun, it needs to be uncomplicated and it needs to be competitive with the rest of the guys betting.

That's why it's about winning a show - against everyone else who bet on that particular show - and chase that perfect score, that 100% each time!

Speaking for myself, I got 6/9 which is pretty decent, getting 5/5 of the main card fights right (that's 100%) and only 3 losses, 1 of them a split decision.

However, I didn't get 100% on the full card, just the MAIN card and I didn't win. So that means I lost. And if you lost, it don't mean shit.

Let me break down the stats for you all - we had 15 people betting, outta those, three people got 5/9, four people got 6/9, one guy got 6/7 and one guy got 6/8, two guys got 7/9! That's 11 people outta 15! That's how close it is! It's downright RETARDED to keep stats when people finish that close!
That's why only the ones who WIN or who get 100% COUNTS, because IT AINT THAT BIG A DEAL to get 5 outta 9 or 6 outta 9! It ain't nothing to brag about, it ain't nothing to make stats about. It ain't nothing to put in your signature.

BDsauce won 2 shows in a row. danielson won 2 shows and got one perfect score of 100%! those are the guys to go after - those guys are the ones to beat! That's where the fun is.
Not to check some list and go "hey now, this guy got an average of 58,5%... and the guy below him got an average of 56,7%"

Who cares.
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« Reply #166 on: February 04, 2008, 06:36:09 PM »
Don't bother.

It needs to be fun, it needs to be uncomplicated and it needs to be competitive with the rest of the guys betting.

That's why it's about winning a show - against everyone else who bet on that particular show - and chase that perfect score, that 100% each time!

Speaking for myself, I got 6/9 which is pretty decent, getting 5/5 of the main card fights right (that's 100%) and only 3 losses, 1 of them a split decision.

However, I didn't get 100% on the full card, just the MAIN card and I didn't win. So that means I lost. And if you lost, it don't mean shit.

Let me break down the stats for you all - we had 15 people betting, outta those, three people got 5/9, four people got 6/9, one guy got 6/7 and one guy got 6/8, two guys got 7/9! That's 11 people outta 15! That's how close it is! It's downright RETARDED to keep stats when people finish that close!
That's why only the ones who WIN or who get 100% COUNTS, because IT AINT THAT BIG A DEAL to get 5 outta 9 or 6 outta 9! It ain't nothing to brag about, it ain't nothing to make stats about. It ain't nothing to put in your signature.

BDsauce won 2 shows in a row. danielson won 2 shows and got one perfect score of 100%! those are the guys to go after - those guys are the ones to beat! That's where the fun is.
Not to check some list and go "hey now, this guy got an average of 58,5%... and the guy below him got an average of 56,7%"

Who cares.


I didn't even bother reading any of this trash, but im assuming (to make your long story short), that you don't want milfer to do his math becuase you look like a can on every list he puts out, so you figure if you make up rules as you go along and do your own figuring that it will look better.  Nope, good luck getting everyone else to agree to that (not that it matters).  When Milfer puts his numbers up they will be honored by me, and by pretty much everybody else but your dumb,fat ass. 
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #167 on: February 04, 2008, 06:47:20 PM »
I didn't even bother reading any of this trash, but im assuming (to make your long story short), that you don't want milfer to do his math becuase you look like a can on every list he puts out, so you figure if you make up rules as you go along and do your own figuring that it will look better.  Nope, good luck getting everyone else to agree to that (not that it matters).  When Milfer puts his numbers up they will be honored by me, and by pretty much everybody else but your dumb,fat ass. 

If you look back to the beginning of this thread you will see that we have CONSTANTLY been discussing back and forth how to calculate, set it up and make it as fun and interesting as possible.

Nothing it set in stone. As for Milfer, if I remember correctly I asked him to do the math (I originally asked Geo to do it via PM) but the percentage stuff has too many flaws. I'm thinking we're better off without it.

We'll see.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #168 on: February 04, 2008, 06:50:48 PM »

We'll see.

Indeed, your gestapo ass idea won't last too long (that plane won't even leave the ground), put it too a vote.  If everybody likes your idea, i'll honor it.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #169 on: February 04, 2008, 07:07:33 PM »
Indeed, your gestapo ass idea won't last too long (that plane won't even leave the ground), put it too a vote.  If everybody likes your idea, i'll honor it.

Like I said, I'm just continuing to do what we've been doing all along in this thread (well not you, you don't contribute anything, you just complain) which is running ideas back and forth, trying to make it more fun, less complicated and more interesting.
When I think we've got something I'll see what the rest thinks about it.
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #170 on: February 04, 2008, 07:09:11 PM »
As I showed above, most people had about the same score on UFC 81 - to make sure that wasn't just a one off, I went back and checked both UFC 80 and 79 and here's the result:

UFC 80:

No of people betting: 13.

one people got 7/9, four people got 6/9, four people got 5/9 that's 9 outta 13.

UFC 79:

No of people betting: 15.

two people got 7/10, three people got 6/10, four people got 5/10 that's 9 outta 15.

So what we can see here is people constantly getting 5-6/9 show after show... which makes it too common, not a big deal and nothing to brag about. Make no sense to put those percentages into a list.
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« Reply #171 on: February 04, 2008, 07:34:55 PM »
As I showed above, most people had about the same score on UFC 81 - to make sure that wasn't just a one off, I went back and checked both UFC 80 and 79 and here's the result:

UFC 80:

No of people betting: 13.

one people got 7/9, four people got 6/9, four people got 5/9 that's 9 outta 13.

UFC 79:

No of people betting: 15.

two people got 7/10, three people got 6/10, four people got 5/10 that's 9 outta 15.

So what we can see here is people constantly getting 5-6/9 show after show... which makes it too common, not a big deal and nothing to brag about. Make no sense to put those percentages into a list.

I have a better idea than you're retarded main card/undercard shit.  How about we do it similar to the UFC fantasy format.  Pick method of victory and round, that alone will narrow the field immensly.  In the event of a tie, the closer to the right answer wins it, if they don't get it right it doesen't count against them.  The base will still be the overall right picks of the specific card, the details will just narrow the field and make way for a clear winner.  They have seperate "best average"  contests as well and rankings to go along with it.  Your shit is just geared to benefit people who have "giant silva" like records (you).
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #172 on: February 05, 2008, 06:02:41 AM »
percentages after ufc81



#1     hedgehog       85.7%          6/7
#2     rancher          74.0%         20/27
#3     sauce            71.1%         33/46
#4     special ed       70.5%        12/17
#5     cb                 67.0%        59/88
#6     k1                 66.6%        24/36
#7     scsg              62.8%        49/78
#8     gts                59.6%        31/52
#9     danielson        59.0%        52/88
#10   mindspin         58.9%         33/56
#11   milfer             58.2%         47/81
#12   20 inch          55.5%         3/6
#12   thin               55.5%         5/9
#14   bezerk           54.8%         17/31
#15   nuyork          52.9%          9/17
#16   geo              52.7%          38/72
#17   bulldog          44.4%         4/9
#18   coltrane        44.4%          4/9
#19   mb               40.0%          2/5
#20   faust           39.1%          9/23
#21   bluto            38.8%          21/54



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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #173 on: February 05, 2008, 07:03:28 AM »
after 10 fights ufc 81

     
                       %            wins            total        records

#1    cb               5            1               6            59/88
#2    sauce          3            6                9            33/46
#3    scsg            7            3               10           49/78
#4    danielson      9            2               11          52/88
#5    Rancher       2            11              13           20/27
#6    milfer          11           4               15           47/81
#6    k1               6            9               15           24/36
#8   gts               8            8               16           31/52
#9   mindspin       10           7               17           33/56
#9   specialed      4             13             17            12/17
#9   hedgehog      1            16             17             6/7
#12  geo             16           5              21            38/72
#13   bezerk        14           12             26           17/31
#14   thinliz         12           17             29     
#15   nuyork        15           15             30           9/17
#16   bluto          21           10             31           21/54
#17   faust          20           14             34            9/14
#18   coltrane      18           18             36            4/9
#19   mb             19           19             38            2/5
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Re: Betting chart
« Reply #174 on: February 05, 2008, 07:05:43 AM »
after 10 fights ufc 81

     
                       %            wins            total        records

#1    cb               5            1               6            59/88
#2    sauce          3            6                9            33/46
#3    scsg            7            3               10           49/78
#4    danielson      9            2               11          52/88
#5    Rancher       2            11              13           20/27
#6    milfer          11           4               15           47/81
#6    k1               6            9               15           24/36
#8   gts               8            8               16           31/52
#9   mindspin       10           7               17           33/56
#9   specialed      4             13             17            12/17
#9   hedgehog      1            16             17             6/7
#12  geo             16           5              21            38/72
#13   bezerk        14           12             26           17/31
#14   thinliz         12           17             29     
#15   nuyork        15           15             30           9/17
#16   bluto          21           10             31           21/54
#17   faust          20           14             34            9/14
#18   coltrane      18           18             36            4/9
#19   mb             19           19             38            2/5


I like that chart better personally. Thanks for all the hard work MGM.
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