answer to question in regards to sustanon

[gh15]

proper way to use the hormone sustanon,,

250lb+ competetive and pro circuit 2 amps a day
200lb competetive 1 amp a day
180-200lb want to be competetive 1 amp every second day

an amp every 4 days is good for maintanence purposes and prep

most national level and state champs will go for 1ampole a day ,,locals 1 amp every second day


also you asked about why you dont feel as jacked as with test enantat,,the answer is sust need to build up it is rather uniqe group of ester release,,most lifters will feel the sustanon after 10-14 days,,it is not as immidiate as testosterone enantat although you would think it is because of short esters but not so,,the whole build up takes more time and while with testosterone enanthat 250 you will be horny and feel jacked and strong after 5-7 days ...with sustanon it will take 10 days in the typical lifter and if you use only 2 amps a week it might even take 20 days,,

if no stamina happen past the third week you have fake or very underdosed product

again sustanon and its relatives will only start giving you test feel past the 10th day,,so no you dont have fake hormone if you didnt feel much after 5 days,,

[The_Schofeild_Kid]

gh15,

if trying to eliminate bloat/water weight (i.e. prep mode) what should one use sust or enan? (assuming no other test ester is available)

thanks

[biceps]

proper way to use the hormone sustanon,,

250lb+ competetive and pro circuit 2 amps a day
200lb competetive 1 amp a day
180-200lb want to be competetive 1 amp every second day

an amp every 4 days is good for maintanence purposes and prep

most national level and state champs will go for 1ampole a day ,,locals 1 amp every second day


also you asked about why you dont feel as jacked as with test enantat,,the answer is sust need to build up it is rather uniqe group of ester release,,most lifters will feel the sustanon after 10-14 days,,it is not as immidiate as testosterone enantat although you would think it is because of short esters but not so,,the whole build up takes more time and while with testosterone enanthat 250 you will be horny and feel jacked and strong after 5-7 days ...with sustanon it will take 10 days in the typical lifter and if you use only 2 amps a week it might even take 20 days,,

if no stamina happen past the third week you have fake or very underdosed product

again sustanon and its relatives will only start giving you test feel past the 10th day,,so no you dont have fake hormone if you didnt feel much after 5 days,,

That is not the priper way that is your way.

[gh15]

gh15,

if trying to eliminate bloat/water weight (i.e. prep mode) what should one use sust or enan? (assuming no other test ester is available)

thanks

can use both,,enantat should be injectyed less frequiently when prep comparing to sust but it all depends on frequency of inject

[gh15]

That is not the priper way that is your way.

it is propper way for bodybuilder,,both natural bodybuilder and hormonized

durateston every single day 1 ampole is quite favorite among plenty of naturals that hold world titles

[bigbobs]

proper way to use the hormone sustanon,,

250lb+ competetive and pro circuit 2 amps a day
200lb competetive 1 amp a day
180-200lb want to be competetive 1 amp every second day

an amp every 4 days is good for maintanence purposes and prep

most national level and state champs will go for 1ampole a day ,,locals 1 amp every second day


also you asked about why you dont feel as jacked as with test enantat,,the answer is sust need to build up it is rather uniqe group of ester release,,most lifters will feel the sustanon after 10-14 days,,it is not as immidiate as testosterone enantat although you would think it is because of short esters but not so,,the whole build up takes more time and while with testosterone enanthat 250 you will be horny and feel jacked and strong after 5-7 days ...with sustanon it will take 10 days in the typical lifter and if you use only 2 amps a week it might even take 20 days,,

if no stamina happen past the third week you have fake or very underdosed product

again sustanon and its relatives will only start giving you test feel past the 10th day,,so no you dont have fake hormone if you didnt feel much after 5 days,,

2 amps a day?!  So that's 3500 mg a test a week?  And are you to stack that with something else?  That sounds ridiculously high.

[The Squadfather]

hey GH do you remember a few years ago the Schering Primoteston 1cc ampules, what did you think of those bad boys?

[gh15]

2 amps a day?!  So that's 3500 mg a test a week?  And are you to stack that with something else?  That sounds ridiculously high.

yes 2 ampoles a day whats so wrong with that? how else can you hld 270lb on stage? hell how can you even hold 250lb on stage on less than 2 ampoles a day at a height of 5'9

the guys who compete at 200-220lb can get by using an ampole a day or an ampole every other day if doing nothing but resting and bodybuild,,anything over on stage and it is in the 1.5-4 gram range of testosterone only!

[biceps]

can use both,,enantat should be injectyed less frequiently when prep comparing to sust but it all depends on frequency of inject

gh 15 I would like you to overview the biosynthesis , transport, metabolism and nongenomic action of the Testosterone. Then show me references regarding your sugestions.

[The_Schofeild_Kid]

2 amps a day?!  So that's 3500 mg a test a week?  And are you to stack that with something else?  That sounds ridiculously high.

haha... and your hero is nasser??

[gh15]

hey GH do you remember a few years ago the Schering Primoteston 1cc ampules, what did you think of those bad boys?

yes ,,very good,,

[The Squadfather]

yes ,,very good,,

best cycle i've ever done, i have wet dreams of those ampules, we were paying 20 bucks per amp even then.

[gh15]

gh 15 I would like you to overview the biosynthesis , transport, metabolism and nongenomic action of the Testosterone. Then show me references regarding your sugestions.

thats not my field this is massive g feild or antonys field or god knows whow field,,i tell you from hand on experience what it takes to mainain or increase size from year to year or in other words what it takes to be competetive and win an ifbb pro show or in this day and time a national show in every country around th world,,

maybe in afganistan you will be able to get by using 2 ampoles a week of sustanon ,,not even there since they get everything from karachi they inject it more than anyone else

[The_Schofeild_Kid]

hey gh15,

while you are here. there was a discussion on the steroid board about the importance of cutting drugs vs. bulking drugs.

basically it was saying that anyone can get into contest ready conditioning using traditionaly "bulking" drugs (test, deca, dbol, anadrol)  with the key being diet and taking proper anti-e's. while more exotic drugs are not that crucial to the equation (halo, winny, primo, tren, etc. etc...)

what do you say?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=105619.0 (this is the thread)

[Bluto]

you guys retarded? there's a steroid board

[biceps]

thats not my field this is massive g feild or antonys field or god knows whow field,,i tell you from hand on experience what it takes to mainain or increase size from year to year or in other words what it takes to be competetive and win an ifbb pro show or in this day and time a national show in every country around th world,,

maybe in afganistan you will be able to get by using 2 ampoles a week of sustanon ,,not even there since they get everything from karachi they inject it more than anyone else

I know is not your field that  why you don't know what you talking about. I hope no body takes your advise.

[The Squadfather]

I know is not your field that  why you don't know what you talking about. I hope no body takes your advise.

shut up, that's like saying that since Jeff Gordon or Matt Kenseth don't know how to build an engine that they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to racing in Nascar.

[The_Schofeild_Kid]

shut up, that's like saying that since Jeff Gordon or Matt Kenseth don't know how to build an engine that they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to racing in Nascar.

its like saying because ron jeremy or that guy that mods on the sex forum here can't write the college text on female sexual anatomy... so they must not know how to fuck some whors.

[biceps]

shut up, that's like saying that since Jeff Gordon or Matt Kenseth don't know how to build an engine that they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to racing in Nascar.

Than gh 15 should be a car mechanic.

[gh15]

hey gh15,

while you are here. there was a discussion on the steroid board about the importance of cutting drugs vs. bulking drugs.

basically it was saying that anyone can get into contest ready conditioning using traditionaly "bulking" drugs (test, deca, dbol, anadrol)  with the key being diet and taking proper anti-e's. while more exotic drugs are not that crucial to the equation (halo, winny, primo, tren, etc. etc...)

what do you say?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=105619.0 (this is the thread)

it all matter of diet but! there are hormones you can not take at high doses pre contest such as dianabol at 50-100mg  it will make you soft and bloat and hold water ,,even 1lb of water wieigh can kill physiqe,,5lb of water weight can be the diff between first place 5 place in some cases

you diet can be as clean and as best as posssible but wrong hormones can always screw it up ,,so in general you can use most hormones to cut but avoid high doses of the dianabol and deca while cut or prep,,when i say high dose i mean 50mg + not 20mg,,can still cut very good with 20mg dianabol and deca at 200-400mg week

[OTHstrong]

I know is not your field that  why you don't know what you talking about. I hope no body takes your advise.

School and science doesn't work in bodybuilding you stupid, dumb stubborn, fat, can't lift shit, ignorant retard. This is bodybuilding, 2 amps a day may not even cut it anymore. Don' ever come back to this board again. we are talking being the best in the world; you have to go hard otherwise you wil just end up being a delusional nothing in this sport.

[The Squadfather]

School and science doesn't work in bodybuilding you stupid, dumb stubborn, fat, can't lift shit, ignorant retard. This is bodybuilding, 2 amps a day may not even cut it anymore. Don' ever come back to this board again. we are talking being the best in the world; you have to go hard otherwise you wil just end up being a delusional nothing in this sport.

exactly, brutal truth.

[gh15]

I know is not your field that  why you don't know what you talking about. I hope no body takes your advise.

i told you alreasdyt 100 times on this board that books dont build a bodybuilder,,it is years of trial and error and learning the basics when it comes to hormonized of human being,,

see the problem with people like you is that you see an ounce of water on your 8% 187.5 lb physiqe  and you think you get fat and out of shape while in reality this is the reason you will NEVER GROW AND WIN A TITLE IN BODYBUILDING

even zane used dosages at this range,,you do not improve if you dont try and change things,,if you always think ...oh i want to be like the way i looked in the summer with my 9% and 190lb..and you cant get it pass you that you need to go through 12% 210lb inorder to improve then you will never be a bodybuilder

the best bodybuilder is the one who knows what it takes from personal experience not what friend tell him or what he hear on internet ,,that is why i write in gossip and opinion to let you know what it takes in general but to leave it up to you to decide after you try ...or not

[biceps]

School and science doesn't work in bodybuilding you stupid, dumb stubborn, fat, can't lift shit, ignorant retard. This is bodybuilding, 2 amps a day may not even cut it anymore. Don' ever come back to this board again. we are talking being the best in the world; you have to go hard otherwise you wil just end up being a delusional nothing in this sport.

Than I should start lifting weights, can you help with a workout routine?

[j3di3]

gh15, i thought test e kicks in at about week 4-5, am i wrong?