yeah clean. i was 145lb n bulked to 153. then stated gear and got to 230. 2 cycles later 272lb. so YES the drugs work.
lucian
WOW! 8lbs of lean natural mass. Crazy accomplishment. Exactly my point here. With enough drugs a little lifting, any fool can make big gains. It's just a matter of how much gear you take, for how long.
Me personally...I took a cycle back in the day, gained 30lbs..mostly water weight, dropped it all, stopped lifting. Came back and went from 150lbs -205lbs, keeping the same leaness. All with ZERO drugs. So, that's usually why I never get impressed by some guy juicing to the max and putting on the same weight I did, without them.
It's great you're ok with it, I personally wouldn't be. It's for shortcutters and people who can't hack it without...you basically proved my point.
Thanks
shhhhh, quit telling these "natural" queers. Let them struggle for 10 years and figure it out on their own.
Oh man, typical loser juicehead mentality. Do your realize what weak thinking that is? "You'll never gain that much naturally, so you might as well start hitting the juice hard right away." haha. Complete loser...haah