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Hillary cries
« on: January 07, 2008, 12:46:24 PM »
ABC News' Kate Snow Reports: Campaigning in New Hampshire one day before the first-in-the-nation primary, Senator Hillary Clinton got emotional and had tears in her eyes as she spoke with voters about how hard it is to balance a busy campaign life and her passion for the country's future.

She's done:  http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-gets-em.html

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 12:50:33 PM »
desperate.  she won't recover.

you just witnessed a moment akin to Dean's screaming "we're coming to minnesota" meltdown following his loss in Iowa in 2004.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 12:51:54 PM »
Oh brother.   ::)  Everything this woman does is calculated.  A new low for her.   

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 12:53:17 PM »
desperate.  she won't recover.

you just witnessed a moment akin to Dean's screaming "we're coming to minnesota" meltdown following his loss in Iowa in 2004.

I think she's toast but I'm not sure this is the equivalent of Dean's scream.  Depends on if it was caught on camera and/of if it gets widely reported.

I doubt her Democratic opponents will mention it but if the media runs with it then....

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 12:54:47 PM »
Oh brother.   ::)  Everything this woman does is calculated.  A new low for her.   

jeez you're cynical - it happened in an informal setting and I seriously doubt it was strategically planned.

If it was she should fire whoever told her to do it.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 12:58:02 PM »
jeez you're cynical - it happened in an informal setting and I seriously doubt it was strategically planned.

If it was she should fire whoever told her to do it.

Yes I am cynical of Hillary.  A good 40 percent of the voting public is probably cynical of Hillary.   

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 01:00:06 PM »
Yes I am cynical of Hillary.  A good 40 percent of the voting public is probably cynical of Hillary.   

I'm no fan of Hillary but let's go with your premise.

She DECIDED to cry and can turn the tears on AT WILL

What would her strategy be?  Do you think she thought it would help her?


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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 01:08:39 PM »
Here's the video:  http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3857124&page=1

doesn't look too bad - might even help her

supposedly 40% in NH are undecided btw Hillary and Obama

Personally - I wish Edwards would win

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 01:09:34 PM »
Its calculated..and I don't think she's done..she's the best "politician" of the bunch.
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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 01:13:53 PM »
Its calculated..and I don't think she's done..she's the best "politician" of the bunch.

I don't think it's calculated and you may be right that she's not toast.  The video looks like geniune emotion to me.   

Here's Bill last night saying he can't make her younger, taller or a man but she's the best person for the job.

I'm not sure what age or height has to do with it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/07/watch-bill-clinton-says-_n_80231.html


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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 01:15:48 PM »
Oh brother.   ::)  Everything this woman does is calculated.  A new low for her.   
I've never seen men more fearful of a woman.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 01:18:03 PM »
Its calculated..and I don't think she's done..she's the best "politician" of the bunch.

wth are you guys talking about head is right.

It was a sit down round table discussion, the room was 95% women whom were undecided voters.

After the meeting, women came up to Hillary and sympathized with her telling her they agree with her emotions on wanting to build a strong country.

The strongest motivation in human behavior is emotion. She had watery eyes for a purpose everyone can agree on, nothing what so ever showing weakness.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 01:20:59 PM »
wth are you guys talking about head is right.

It was a sit down round table discussion, the room was 95% women whom were undecided voters.

After the meeting, women came up to Hillary and sympathized with her telling her they agree with her emotions on wanting to build a strong country.

The strongest motivation in human behavior is emotion. She had watery eyes for a purpose everyone can agree on, nothing what so ever showing weakness.

have you ever tried to cry?  It's pretty damn hard.  Isn't it possible that she's actually a human being with real emotions?

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 01:21:50 PM »
I'm no fan of Hillary but let's go with your premise.

She DECIDED to cry and can turn the tears on AT WILL

What would her strategy be?  Do you think she thought it would help her?



She was trying to garner sympathy and convince people that her love of America and her desire to lead is passionate that it brings her to tears.  I don't believe it.  

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 01:22:32 PM »
Its calculated..and I don't think she's done..she's the best "politician" of the bunch.

I agree.  She's still the Democrat frontrunner IMO. 

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 01:22:41 PM »
everything she's done for the last 45 years has been calculated.

No way she "loses it" for the first time for an audience right after she lost the women vote in Iowa.

On a side note, if it is real, I'm not so sure I want such an emotionally unstable person running the show.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2008, 01:23:21 PM »
I've never seen men more fearful of a woman.

I can't speak for other men, but I'm certainly not afraid of Hillary.  I just don't like her.  Don't trust her. 

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2008, 01:23:41 PM »
I agree.  She's still the Democrat frontrunner IMO. 

newspapers and gambling services are starting to name 1) Obama 2) hilary 3) mccain the next likely president, more and more.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2008, 01:26:17 PM »
given the fact that none of us know anything about her other than what we see on TV I think it's kind of funny that we all (myself included) act like we know her.  

Maybe they had a strategy meeting that morning and decided she should "act" choked up and maybe even put a thumbtack in her shoe so at the precise moment when she was asked the right question she could turn on the water works.

Or maybe she was just expressing a genuine feeling with an involuntary phsysical response.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 01:27:33 PM »
I'm pulling for her...I'lll put her up against the Rep in the debate and see what will happen..what I don't want is that idiot Obama..he's snowed the under 30 voters and his rock star image(what ever that means) could carry him to the Whitehouse and then we get Jimmy Carter part 2. I know what i'll get with Hil and I think we can stand to have 4 years of her. Please excuse me while I go slam my head into a brick wall.

Straw, if actors can do it....she's extremely smart. 
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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2008, 01:32:13 PM »
hahaha, shes obviously getting desperate.  what a fake bitch.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2008, 01:32:58 PM »
I'm pulling for her...I'lll put her up against the Rep in the debate and see what will happen..what I don't want is that idiot Obama..he's snowed the under 30 voters and his rock star image(what ever that means) could carry him to the Whitehouse and then we get Jimmy Carter part 2. I know what i'll get with Hil and I think we can stand to have 4 years of her. Please excuse me while I go slam my head into a brick wall.

Straw, if actors can do it....she's extremely smart. 

most actors can't do it and the ones that do have all kinds of strategies and get multiple takes.  I seriously doubt she spends her time trying to develop that skill.

anyone, my own personal opinion from viewing the video is that it's genuine.

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2008, 01:33:45 PM »
Well, ok its genuine..i think it works regardless and won't backfire...
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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2008, 01:34:30 PM »
have you ever tried to cry?  It's pretty damn hard.  Isn't it possible that she's actually a human being with real emotions?


Two parts in being able to make yourself cry, the past and present. Past emotional cues, combined with present set and setting let it roll.

Crying is never fake per se, always true emotion behind it...whatever that emotion might be???

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Re: Hillary cries
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2008, 01:47:10 PM »
have you ever tried to cry?  It's pretty damn hard. 
I personally think it's easier for women to "try to cry" and succeed than men. 


  Isn't it possible that she's actually a human being with real emotions?


Yes, it is absolutely possible.



But I agree w/240:



On a side note, if it is real, I'm not so sure I want such an emotionally unstable person running the show.

She (sort of) cries in front of people and video cameras when she's tired from campaigning?  It makes you wonder how she may react in a disaster? 
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