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Why do you oppose Global Government?
« on: January 08, 2008, 02:56:14 AM »
Listen up losers... We will have Global Government and you'll just have to follow along with the new global order created--it's for your own good and the good of humankind.  I am in full support of this and you should be too!  There will be order!!!!!!

It's so funny to hear that it won't happen... How the hell do you figure it wont happen?!?!?!?!?  WELL!!!  HOW!!!!  Go on tell me how it won't happen...  It's so easy to tell you why you're full of shit.  If you follow the links in the other thread on global government you'll see the movement is very organized, well funded and is made up of prominent politicians, businessmen, professors and various other institutions.  What the fuck do you have to oppose global government huh???  BWHAHahahhahahaha... Alex Jones and Ron Paul.. and HH6 making message board threats??  wooo ::)


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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 03:28:35 AM »
I mean really people, this movement is funded by big business!  They receive all the grants and donations to move forward from the corporations.  Who here is going to tell me that as it stands now the corporations don't call the shots here in America... This I would like to hear...  Of course they do...  How many corporations have announced they've grown beyond borders and national loyalties and view their business as a global entity.  You're up against the largest colossus ever constructed and those who oppose it are not funded, not organized and hell, some clowns still think it's a conspiracy theory despite all these major players talking the talk.

These companies follow a Transnational Philosophy that "encourages change in and reexamination of concepts like citizenship, nationalism, and communitarianism."

ABB
ABN-Amro
Accenture
Aditya Birla Group
Affiliated Computer Services Inc
Airbus
Allianz
Alstom
Altria Group
American Express
Akzo Nobel
Apple Inc.
Aquent llc
Arcelor Mittal
Arcor
Assicurazioni Generali
Atari
Audi
AXA
Bacardi
Banco Santander
Bank of Montreal
Barrick Gold Corporation
Barilla Group
BASF
Bayer
BBVA
Bic
Billabong
BMW
Boeing
Bombardier
BP (British Petroleum)
Brantano Footwear
Cadbury Schweppes
Capital One
Centocor
Chevron
Citigroup
Cognizant Technology Solutions
ConocoPhillips
Coca-Cola
Credit Suisse
Cummins
Daimler-Chrysler
Dell
Dow Chemical
Dutch East India Company
EA
Electronic Data Systems
Electrolux
Emerson Electric
Eni
Enel
Embraer
Epson
Ernst & Young
Etisalat
ExxonMobil
Faber-Castell
Ferrero
Fiat
Finmeccanica
Ford Motor Company
General Electric
General Motors
Gerdau
Gillette
GlaxoSmithKline
Google
Halliburton
Hearst Corporation
Heineken
Hewlett Packard
Hindustan Computers Limited
Hitachi, Ltd.
Honda
HSBC
Huawei
Husqvarna
Hutchison Whampoa Limited
ICICI
Indigo Design & Engineering Associates
Infosys
Ingersoll Rand
ING Group
Intel Corporation
Isuzu
Jardine Matheson
Johnson Controls
Johnson & Johnson
JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Konami
KPMG
Krispy Kreme
Lear
Leoni AG
Lexmark
LG
Lockheed Martin
L'Oréal
Luxottica
Malaysia Airlines
Martini & Rossi
Masterfoods
Matsushita
Microsoft
Monsanto
Nestlé
News Corporation
Nike, Inc.
Nintendo
Nissan
Novartis
Parmalat
PepsiCo
Petronas
Pfizer
Philips
Procter & Gamble
Proton (carmaker)
Regus
Shell/Royal Dutch
Royal Bank of Canada
Samsung
Schlumberger
Scotiabank
Shell
Siemens
Sony
Square Enix
Syntel
Tata Group
Techint (Tenaris/ Ternium)
Telefónica
Tesco
Texas Instruments
The Coca-Cola Company
The Walt Disney Company
The Toronto Dominion Bank
Toshiba
Total S.A.
Toyota
UBS
Unicredit
Unilever
Virgin Group
Vale do Rio Doce
Videocon
Vodafone
Volkswagen
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
Wipro Ltd.
Woodbridge Foam
Xerox
Yakult
 

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 05:05:28 AM »
I think you need to learn the difference between globalization and global government.

A global government would be based on a democratic society, that is actually a prerequisite.

The globalized world does not require any such, the big corporations aren't interested in human rights.

So before you go opposing global governments and bodies such as EU and UN, you need to realize that even though they are connected with the globalization, they are still a part of a democratic movement too.

The fact is undeniable: EU has made war between France and Germany unthinkable.

Poland and Germany? Ten years from now, and my guess is that a war between these two countries will be also considered unthinkable.

Granted, there are problems. With EU, with UN.

And I don't dig everything with either of those bodies. But I will give credit where credit is due.

And I'm not gonna cry New World Order, or any other conspiracy theory when I see the actions of the major world corporations.

They don't act on a conspiracy: it's more a nature of the beast kind of thing.

There's plenty of research on globalization and Trans National Corporations, they follow it to a T.

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 05:16:41 AM »
I think you need to learn the difference between globalization and global government.

A global government would be based on a democratic society, that is actually a prerequisite.

The globalized world does not require any such, the big corporations aren't interested in human rights.

So before you go opposing global governments and bodies such as EU and UN, you need to realize that even though they are connected with the globalization, they are still a part of a democratic movement too.

The fact is undeniable: EU has made war between France and Germany unthinkable.

Poland and Germany? Ten years from now, and my guess is that a war between these two countries will be also considered unthinkable.

Granted, there are problems. With EU, with UN.

And I don't dig everything with either of those bodies. But I will give credit where credit is due.

And I'm not gonna cry New World Order, or any other conspiracy theory when I see the actions of the major world corporations.

They don't act on a conspiracy: it's more a nature of the beast kind of thing.

There's plenty of research on globalization and Trans National Corporations, they follow it to a T.



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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 06:16:17 AM »
I think you need to learn the difference between globalization and global government.

::)  If you read what I said, and clearly you didn't, I only pointed to the fact that the corporate philosophies align with one world government which was only to point to why they have an intererest in funding organizations working toward one world government and they do.

So before you go opposing global governments

Man, you really didn't read what I said at all did you...  In the first lines of the first post I said I support global government.

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 06:18:14 AM »
::)  If you read what I said, and clearly you didn't, I only pointed to the fact that the corporate philosophies align with one world government which was only to point to why they have an intererest in funding organizations working toward one world government and they do.

Man, you really didn't read what I said at all did you...  In the first lines of the first post I said I support global government.

Then I apologize.

I thought your post were written in jest, you know, using satire. ::)


Kinda like "a modest proposal"...
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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 06:22:07 AM »
Then I apologize.

I thought your post were written in jest, you know, using satire. ::)


Kinda like "a modest proposal"...
accepted, sorry for jumping at you.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=193862.0

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2008, 06:34:37 AM »
accepted, sorry for jumping at you.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=193862.0


The interesting thing though is that a company like British Petroleum eg, with its business interests in Nigeria, is actually preventing a global government.

How?

By effectively leeching the natural resources out from Nigeria, which keeps Nigerian economy and social structure down.

The global government isn't a reality until the poor and developing nations are brought up to the same standard as the richer and more developed nations.
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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2008, 06:46:34 AM »

The interesting thing though is that a company like British Petroleum eg, with its business interests in Nigeria, is actually preventing a global government.

How?

By effectively leeching the natural resources out from Nigeria, which keeps Nigerian economy and social structure down.

The global government isn't a reality until the poor and developing nations are brought up to the same standard as the richer and more developed nations.
I don't know how you can say it can't be reality until the poor are brought up.  Do you mean it can't be a fair democratic world government until that?  That's probably true but governments rarely are.  No doubt on a global scale, you'll see inequity on a larger scale.  From everything I've researched, no conspiracy sites, the reality of global government is quickly coming.  Those moving for it are as I've said, well funded, well connected and organized.  Those who oppose it are not even remotely in a position to stop it.

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2008, 06:52:30 AM »
I don't know how you can say it can't be reality until the poor are brought up.  Do you mean it can't be a fair democratic world government until that?  That's probably true but governments rarely are.  No doubt on a global scale, you'll see inequity on a larger scale.  From everything I've researched, no conspiracy sites, the reality of global government is quickly coming.  Those moving for it are as I've said, well funded, well connected and organized.  Those who oppose it are not even remotely in a position to stop it.


I support nationalization of Venezuelan oil, because I believe it will help world economy, and that it will give a more fair trade balance as a whole.

Everyone will be a winner if democracy is developed in lagging countries.
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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2008, 07:45:37 AM »
By effectively leeching the natural resources out from Nigeria, which keeps Nigerian economy and social structure down.

The global government isn't a reality until the poor and developing nations are brought up to the same standard as the richer and more developed nations.

Why haven't the Bushies declared war on Nigeria so that we can get American companies in there to build a solid infrastructure for that region over the next quarter-century?

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 07:46:42 AM »

Clinton I wanted one world government, managed by the corporate giants on Wall St. 

Clinton II is the same and must be stopped at any cost.


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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2008, 08:09:40 AM »
Clinton I wanted one world government, managed by the corporate giants on Wall St. 

Clinton II is the same and must be stopped at any cost.


hahaha... So easy for people,  It's Clinton's fault, It's Clinton's fault, It's Clinton's fault ::) you have a lot lot lot more to stop than Clinton.  Your only hope is Ron Paul and that ain't happening ;) ...

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2008, 08:10:38 AM »
Even Ron Paul can't stop this, so I take that back.  Just go with it!!!

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2008, 08:31:22 AM »
hahaha... So easy for people,  It's Clinton's fault, It's Clinton's fault, It's Clinton's fault ::) you have a lot lot lot more to stop than Clinton. 

Clinton-Bush are the same...just with different interests, but both interested only in their own 'power' and the money it brings.

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2008, 09:01:16 AM »
No threats..if u want a world government move out of my sovereign country and work toward it.....I'll have something for u when u return.
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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2008, 09:04:55 AM »
Why do I oppose Global Government?

Because insiders such as Michael Shermer and David Icke are big believers in that concept.

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2008, 12:38:27 PM »
Well, I oppose it because I like freedom, liberty, individualism, and peace.

 Empires, Colonial Powers, conglomerates, commonwealths, and federations have all proven not to work.  You cannot force hugely differing peoples together...and this is only done under a military-style dictatorship or an extremely strong econom.  In the past and through today, tens of millions have died under these tenets...the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, South Africa, the British Empire, the Spanish Empire, French colonialism and expansionism, the old USSR, Muslims in Europe, Abu Sayef in the Philippines, Iraq, Afghanistan, the old Yugoslavia, the Balkans, Chavez's rise to power in Venezuela and subsequent national socialism, Morales and Bolivia, the slums of Sao Paulo, Mexican immigration into the US, etc.....and on and on and on.

So, yes, I oppose global government on the basis that it forces masses of differing people to live together.....violently.  However, I do support true multiculturalism and diversity in that sovereign nation's borders are truly respected and the people's cultures, religions, and ethnicity remain intact within those borders. 

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2008, 05:17:36 PM »
No threats..if u want a world government move out of my sovereign country and work toward it.....I'll have something for u when u return.
You're the stupid assclown, you get the fuck out.  This is as much my earth as it is yours.  I was here before your stupid ass anyway.  I'm nowhere close to the person who will bring this into being, that would be several of your fellow Americans who are wealthy and influential along with similar individuals around the world.  What the fuck are you doing about it besides making keyboard threats?  I spent my time opposing this only to have assfuckers such as yourself get all righteous and condescending on me for doing it.  There is no elite opposition to this, only asshat trailer trash types like yourself who think it won't happen because they announce it to be so ::)  What's funny is that when this stuff really starts to be implemented you will still be saying it wont happen and by the time it's in full fruition, you won't fucking matter ;)

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Re: Why do you oppose Global Government?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2008, 05:19:23 PM »
Why do I oppose Global Government?

Because insiders such as Michael Shermer and David Icke are big believers in that concept.
David Icke an insider :D  You have got to tell me you don't honestly believe that shit ::)