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How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« on: January 09, 2008, 02:38:54 PM »
A year earlier he was a joke at the Olympia, no one would have thought he had a chance in hell to ever win in his life , then all of a sudden a year later he goes from a second tier bodybuilder to the best in the world.  What did Coleman take and do that year to change his body so much? 

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2008, 02:45:30 PM »
A year earlier he was a joke at the Olympia, no one would have thought he had a chance in hell to ever win in his life , then all of a sudden a year later he goes from a second tier bodybuilder to the best in the world.  What did Coleman take and do that year to change his body so much? 

he put on a bit of size and came in ripped.

sometimes the finishing touches make all the difference.

Ronnie in 98 vs Ronnie in 97:
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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2008, 02:57:18 PM »
A year earlier he was a joke at the Olympia, no one would have thought he had a chance in hell to ever win in his life , then all of a sudden a year later he goes from a second tier bodybuilder to the best in the world.  What did Coleman take and do that year to change his body so much? 

His body hasn't changed much from 97 to 98. It was his luck that the Weiders needed an underdog to win, to bring more drama in the game. So they robbed Flex, Kevin and Nasser and gave it to the underdog. ;)

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 03:06:54 PM »
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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 03:09:37 PM »
A year earlier he was a joke at the Olympia, no one would have thought he had a chance in hell to ever win in his life , then all of a sudden a year later he goes from a second tier bodybuilder to the best in the world.  What did Coleman take and do that year to change his body so much? 

What qualifies as first tier?  Top 10 in the world?  I would say top 10 is fair and he was in the top 10 in 1996 and 1997, he was just in the lower end of the top 10.
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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 03:24:24 PM »
man if coleman came in that shape all eight mr o,s i dont think anyone would complain one bit. the man tried to improve on perfection. imagine how hard and ever more vascualr he would have been if he kept his bodywieght in the 250s for the whole time.

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 03:30:41 PM »
man if coleman came in that shape all eight mr o,s i dont think anyone would complain one bit. the man tried to improve on perfection. imagine how hard and ever more vascualr he would have been if he kept his bodywieght in the 250s for the whole time.

problem is, he tried to do just that in 2001 and 2002 and he almost lost..

he had to go big or get killed it seems.

he did what he had to do to win.
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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 05:18:58 PM »
he put on a bit of size and came in ripped.

sometimes the finishing touches make all the difference.

Ronnie in 98 vs Ronnie in 97:

He didn't put on ANY size in 98 he actually dried out completely he was 255 pounds in 1997 and the victim of to many contests and Flex made the mistake of referring him to Teh Chad and he dried him out and he was down to 247 pounds , so once again I expose how little you know .  ;)

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2008, 05:20:26 PM »
What qualifies as first tier?  Top 10 in the world?  I would say top 10 is fair and he was in the top 10 in 1996 and 1997, he was just in the lower end of the top 10.

Top tier is winning contests and he was beating Flex by 1996 so I would say that makes him top tier .

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2008, 05:26:14 PM »
96 & 97

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2008, 05:30:22 PM »
he improved so much that the only way to go was down, its a pity he ruined his physique from 2004 onwards... he never should have tried to gain so much mass in one year, should have tried to do it over a number of years... but thats easier said than done
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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2008, 05:31:50 PM »
A year earlier he was a joke at the Olympia, no one would have thought he had a chance in hell to ever win in his life , then all of a sudden a year later he goes from a second tier bodybuilder to the best in the world.  What did Coleman take and do that year to change his body so much? 
heavy ass weights, chicken strips, KC Masterpiece and Chad's Mercurial Diuretic.

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2008, 05:42:29 PM »
heavy ass weights, chicken strips, KC Masterpiece and Chad's Mercurial Diuretic.
dont forget "jebus" ;)

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 06:03:33 PM »
by stragnations          ;D

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 07:52:41 PM »
He didn't put on ANY size in 98 he actually dried out completely he was 255 pounds in 1997 and the victim of to many contests and Flex made the mistake of referring him to Teh Chad and he dried him out and he was down to 247 pounds , so once again I expose how little you know .  ;)

Ronnie himself said in 99 before the O. in flex magazine that he was putting on about 5 pounds of muscle per year.

talk to him.

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this size difference in mass can be verified quite easily over the years by looking at his quad mass alone, for example.

come back when you have learned something.

you believe everything you read in a mag, including erroneous weights listed, which has really held you back as a fan. :-\

you would be much better off if you used your brains and EYES a bit more in this sport,  buddy.
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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2008, 07:55:42 PM »
A year earlier he was a joke at the Olympia, no one would have thought he had a chance in hell to ever win in his life , then all of a sudden a year later he goes from a second tier bodybuilder to the best in the world.  What did Coleman take and do that year to change his body so much? 
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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2008, 09:14:17 PM »
I dont know where I read this but, I thought Tom Prince hinted around that Ronnie Always used Nolvadex in high dosages which counter-acted his GH dose. Chad made him back off the Nolva after 97' and Voila!!!! A bigger, more ripped coleman......but with gyno :( Probably rebounded from discontinuing the nolvadex).

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2008, 10:24:16 PM »
Well Ronnie started off as being natural, which is why his physique made so many dramatic changes as he got older.

I mean he put on about 40 lbs of lean mass from that 97 pic to today, no pro in the history of bb'ing has been able to do that.

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2008, 11:24:51 PM »
Kev Lev kept winning all post Olympia grand PRIX in 1997 all 6 untill the last one - the Russian one. Russians stripped Kev of this one and handed the win to Ronnie. Even Ron himself acknoleged somewhere that this Russian Grand Prix win started his reign.

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2008, 12:10:14 AM »
he improved so much that the only way to go was down, its a pity he ruined his physique from 2004 onwards... he never should have tried to gain so much mass in one year, should have tried to do it over a number of years... but thats easier said than done

He ruined it in 2005?


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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2008, 01:52:54 AM »
Ronnie himself said in 99 before the O. in flex magazine that he was putting on about 5 pounds of muscle per year.

talk to him.

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this size difference in mass can be verified quite easily over the years by looking at his quad mass alone, for example.

come back when you have learned something.

you believe everything you read in a mag, including erroneous weights listed, which has really held you back as a fan. :-\

you would be much better off if you used your brains and EYES a bit more in this sport,  buddy.

Oh Mr Hypocrite wants to cling to what Ronnie says now when it suits his needs  ::) but when Ronnie HIMSELF said his best Olympia was 1998 specifically because his conditioning was ' spot on ' hes WRONG according to you but now he's right lmfao you're such a complete idiot

How does one ' put on a bit of size ' by dropping in weight? Ronnie HIMSELF said he was 255 pounds at the 1997 , he came in a tad to heavy and his placing slipped to 9th and spare me the weights are ' erroneous ' when it contradicts your bullshit but when you need to use them all the sudden they're just fine , typical hypocrite you are

Ronnie HIMSELF said he was 255 pounds at the 1997 Mr Olympia , Ronnie himself said he was 247 pounds the day of the 1998 Mr Olympia so your assessment that Ronnie put on a bit of size from 97 to 98 is an out right LIE and typical of your ignorance , which reminds me of your moronic statement that the 1998 Mr Olympia wasn't close lmfao and the 2001 Olympia Ronnie dominated Jay by losing the whole prejudging lol this is more of your great logic you should spend less time staring at Ronnie ass glutes and actually read the contest reports

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2008, 02:20:09 AM »
Ronnie deserved the win in … period … people who were a fan of flex had a hard time swallowing the fact … but all in all … Ronnie was wider, more muscular, leaner and more defined …


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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2008, 02:23:12 AM »
Ronnie HIMSELF said he was 255 pounds at the 1997 Mr Olympia , Ronnie himself said he was 247 pounds the day of the 1998 Mr Olympia so your assessment that Ronnie put on a bit of size from 97 to 98 is an out right LIE and typical of your ignorance , which reminds me of your moronic statement that the 1998 Mr Olympia wasn't close lmfao and the 2001 Olympia Ronnie dominated Jay by losing the whole prejudging lol this is more of your great logic you should spend less time staring at Ronnie ass glutes and actually read the contest reports

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Ronnie did put on size between shows he was 255 and soft (for him) in 1997, and 247 sliced in 1998. Are you saying that in 1997 if he had dropped to 247 (only 8 pounds) he would have looked like he did in 1998? Bigger than Nasser far better than anyone else on stage and possibly better than what Dorian looked like in 1997?

No he put on size and then dropped even more weight to get ripped.

Ronnie easily won the 2001 pre-judging WTF the judges were looking at i have no idea. The video shows him killing Jay, the pics mean nothing.

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2008, 03:43:38 AM »
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No he put on size and then dropped even more weight to get ripped.


exactly my point.

remember we are dealing with one of the most ill-informed people on this board, becuase he doesn't use his head or his eyes - he only uses magazine text, and magazine text ONLY..

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ND owned for the 5 billionth time.

tell me ND, when are you going to start listening to everyone and get your head out of your stickly magazines for once?

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Re: How did coleman win his first Olympia?
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2008, 03:44:57 AM »
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Are you saying that in 1997 if he had dropped to 247 (only 8 pounds) he would have looked like he did in 1998?

asking ND to explain a logical hypothetical question is like asking a rock to do tricks.

sorry.

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