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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #225 on: April 02, 2008, 04:51:46 AM »
 No, boxers get owned by guys who can fight on the ground every time. Heavyweight boxers entered the early editions of the UFC and got easily defeated once the other guy took them to the ground.

  What have I already told you about personal insults making you look stupid and like you're losing the argument? Your trailer park insults are not even funny. It is obvious that you are unintelligent and lack the intellectual capacity to debate me; hence, the insults. ;) I'm sorry to inform you, but calling your opponent names doesen't make you win the argument, but is actually an admission of defeat. Have a nice evening.
A prime Mike Tyson 19 to 23 was so far advanced of any other boxer its unwise to compare him to any other MMA athlete.Average boxers would have a hard time with a technical MMA fighter i half agree with you.
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #226 on: April 02, 2008, 05:09:29 AM »
A prime Mike Tyson 19 to 23 was so far advanced of any other boxer its unwise to compare him to any other MMA athlete.Average boxers would have a hard time with a technical MMA fighter i half agree with you.

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #227 on: April 02, 2008, 08:18:38 AM »
This topic comes up every few months. The one thing that made Tyson so great was his amazing hand speed, foot work and the ability to weave away from any punch. A prime Tyson could easily defeat any of the MMA fighters listed ONLY if he stayed at a distance and waited for openings so he could counter. Due to Tyson's aggressive fighting style i also could see him getting taken down and submitted very easily when attempting to bum rush his opponent like he was known to do.

Now the argument about kickboxers is a valid one but Tyson was known to weave his way quickly past the reach of men who had a reach 12" longer than his. so i believe a prime Tyson could defend and weave his way past a few high kicks and KO almost any kickboxer on the planet. but again a top ranked kickboxer could still KO Tyson with a lucky head kick.

this entire argument is stupid, Tyson trained for "boxing" and was one of the best boxers of all time during his prime. he was never a MMA fighter and never trained for wrestling so a good MMA guy could easily defeat him ONLY if they took him down. i seriously doubt any current MMA fighter would last toe to toe with Tyson and those 4oz gloves.

Anyone who thinks they know the answer to this question is only fooling themselves. not a single person on this earth knows what would happen if a prime Tyson went up against a top ranked MMA heavyweight.

i will say that based on the speed and amazing footwork of Tyson i don't see him being taken down very easily like some of you MMA guys claim. Tyson in his early years jumped around the ring faster than any MMA guy I've seen in my entire life. he was simply too damn fast for any man to even attempt to take down in his prime. a MMA guy could only wait until Tyson rushed in with a deadly combo and "then" attempt a take down once mike was in close. i don't see anyone chasing Tyson and taking him down, he was one of the fastest boxers on his feet to ever step in the ring and I'm sure with years of street fighting experience he knew how to stuff a take down.

it could go either way, the determining factor is IF he is taken down. if taken down he would lose, if he stayed up toe to toe he would easily win. I've seen many of the top ranked MMA heavyweights have serious problems taking down guys with subpar skill levels so Tyson might get lucky...just my .02 as a Tyson fan for 20 years.

Also, Tyson's level of hand speed and footwork has never been seen in MMA and probably never will be seen.


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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #228 on: April 02, 2008, 11:52:06 AM »
A top MMA fighter (Fedor for instance) would win a fight (mma) even with Tyson in his prime, off course because of the advantage of ground game...Any moment exchanging punches with Tyson, it would be death for sure for Tyson´s oponent. Tyson would probably became K1 champion very fast, even without any ability to kick ...
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #229 on: April 02, 2008, 04:52:47 PM »
This topic comes up every few months. The one thing that made Tyson so great was his amazing hand speed, foot work and the ability to weave away from any punch. A prime Tyson could easily defeat any of the MMA fighters listed ONLY if he stayed at a distance and waited for openings so he could counter. Due to Tyson's aggressive fighting style i also could see him getting taken down and submitted very easily when attempting to bum rush his opponent like he was known to do.

Now the argument about kickboxers is a valid one but Tyson was known to weave his way quickly past the reach of men who had a reach 12" longer than his. so i believe a prime Tyson could defend and weave his way past a few high kicks and KO almost any kickboxer on the planet. but again a top ranked kickboxer could still KO Tyson with a lucky head kick.

this entire argument is stupid, Tyson trained for "boxing" and was one of the best boxers of all time during his prime. he was never a MMA fighter and never trained for wrestling so a good MMA guy could easily defeat him ONLY if they took him down. i seriously doubt any current MMA fighter would last toe to toe with Tyson and those 4oz gloves.

Anyone who thinks they know the answer to this question is only fooling themselves. not a single person on this earth knows what would happen if a prime Tyson went up against a top ranked MMA heavyweight.

i will say that based on the speed and amazing footwork of Tyson i don't see him being taken down very easily like some of you MMA guys claim. Tyson in his early years jumped around the ring faster than any MMA guy I've seen in my entire life. he was simply too damn fast for any man to even attempt to take down in his prime. a MMA guy could only wait until Tyson rushed in with a deadly combo and "then" attempt a take down once mike was in close. i don't see anyone chasing Tyson and taking him down, he was one of the fastest boxers on his feet to ever step in the ring and I'm sure with years of street fighting experience he knew how to stuff a take down.

it could go either way, the determining factor is IF he is taken down. if taken down he would lose, if he stayed up toe to toe he would easily win. I've seen many of the top ranked MMA heavyweights have serious problems taking down guys with subpar skill levels so Tyson might get lucky...just my .02 as a Tyson fan for 20 years.

Also, Tyson's level of hand speed and footwork has never been seen in MMA and probably never will be seen.


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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #230 on: April 02, 2008, 07:19:38 PM »
A prime Mike Tyson 19 to 23 was so far advanced of any other boxer its unwise to compare him to any other MMA athlete.Average boxers would have a hard time with a technical MMA fighter i half agree with you.

  Unless you can demonstrate that he has ground fighting skills as well as leg kicking skills, then he's just a boxer. Again, you guys are assuming that Tyson will manage to hit a punch on his opponent before the latter throws Tyson to the ground, and that's by no means a certain thing. When Tyson hits the ground, he's finished.

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #231 on: April 02, 2008, 07:20:40 PM »
  Unless you can demonstrate that he has ground fighting skills as well as leg kicking skills, then he's just a boxer. Again, you guys are assuming that Tyson will manage to hit a punch on his opponent before the latter throws Tyson to the ground, and that's by no means a certain thing. When Tyson hits the ground, he's finished.

This thread is going in circles I love it!!!!
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #232 on: April 02, 2008, 07:28:02 PM »
This thread is going in circles I love it!!!!
It's the next "Hulkster...truce" thread. ::)
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #233 on: April 02, 2008, 07:40:42 PM »
It's the next "Hulkster...truce" thread. ::)

It was dead a long time ago...

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #234 on: April 02, 2008, 07:47:14 PM »
Here is what happens when a very good kickboxer fights a good MMA guy.....he looks like he has never fought before.

Now, Tyson was better at boxing than this guy is at kickboxing, but it is the closest comparison I could find.

Tyson was absolutely remarkable.  He kills >99.99% of people that have ever, or will ever walk on Earth.  But fighting has evolved..and left boxing in the past.

An Olympic caliber wrestler with ground skills that can take a serious punch will be tyson 9/10 times.  Not that a whole lot of these types of people exist...


Just to show some of his highlights.  Note the Mirko knockout.
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By the way, "beating up people in the street"  has absolutely no bearing on anything.  It is stupid to even mention.

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #235 on: April 02, 2008, 08:01:23 PM »
This topic comes up every few months. The one thing that made Tyson so great was his amazing hand speed, foot work and the ability to weave away from any punch. A prime Tyson could easily defeat any of the MMA fighters listed ONLY if he stayed at a distance and waited for openings so he could counter. Due to Tyson's aggressive fighting style i also could see him getting taken down and submitted very easily when attempting to bum rush his opponent like he was known to do.

Now the argument about kickboxers is a valid one but Tyson was known to weave his way quickly past the reach of men who had a reach 12" longer than his. so i believe a prime Tyson could defend and weave his way past a few high kicks and KO almost any kickboxer on the planet. but again a top ranked kickboxer could still KO Tyson with a lucky head kick.

this entire argument is stupid, Tyson trained for "boxing" and was one of the best boxers of all time during his prime. he was never a MMA fighter and never trained for wrestling so a good MMA guy could easily defeat him ONLY if they took him down. i seriously doubt any current MMA fighter would last toe to toe with Tyson and those 4oz gloves.

Anyone who thinks they know the answer to this question is only fooling themselves. not a single person on this earth knows what would happen if a prime Tyson went up against a top ranked MMA heavyweight.

i will say that based on the speed and amazing footwork of Tyson i don't see him being taken down very easily like some of you MMA guys claim. Tyson in his early years jumped around the ring faster than any MMA guy I've seen in my entire life. he was simply too damn fast for any man to even attempt to take down in his prime. a MMA guy could only wait until Tyson rushed in with a deadly combo and "then" attempt a take down once mike was in close. i don't see anyone chasing Tyson and taking him down, he was one of the fastest boxers on his feet to ever step in the ring and I'm sure with years of street fighting experience he knew how to stuff a take down.

it could go either way, the determining factor is IF he is taken down. if taken down he would lose, if he stayed up toe to toe he would easily win. I've seen many of the top ranked MMA heavyweights have serious problems taking down guys with subpar skill levels so Tyson might get lucky...just my .02 as a Tyson fan for 20 years.

Also, Tyson's level of hand speed and footwork has never been seen in MMA and probably never will be seen.


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Good post.  However,

Tyson NEVER looked for kicks.  Sure he was very fast and probably could avoid them.  BUT, he would have to train for it...and train to specifically counter kicks.

He  would defeat any MMA guy standing, barring an unexpected head kick.  But not a single person would ever be dumb enough to try to stand with him.  It would be difficult for Tyson to stay on his feet.

And staying standing when an Olympic caliber wrestler is trying to take you down is very, very hard.




Also, large gloves protect the hands.  They hardly soften the punch.  The only thing different about getting hit with a 4 ounce glove if it is coming from Tyson is that he would probably break his hand.  You are getting KTFO either way.

Remember one of the only street fights Tyson was involved in without gloves during his career he broke his hand.  He broke it because he wasn't wearing gloves.  The fucker punches too hard for his own bones to stand up to.  Scary.

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #236 on: April 02, 2008, 08:30:55 PM »
Why he can take a punch!
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #237 on: April 02, 2008, 08:32:53 PM »
That's not 50cent.
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #238 on: April 02, 2008, 08:39:00 PM »
He can't quite cope.


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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #239 on: April 02, 2008, 08:39:40 PM »
That's not 50cent.

That's Iron Mike!!
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #240 on: April 02, 2008, 09:27:17 PM »

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #242 on: April 03, 2008, 04:31:32 AM »
He can't quite cope.



Brutal attempt at posting a video!!
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #243 on: April 03, 2008, 05:01:32 AM »
  Unless you can demonstrate that he has ground fighting skills as well as leg kicking skills, then he's just a boxer. Again, you guys are assuming that Tyson will manage to hit a punch on his opponent before the latter throws Tyson to the ground, and that's by no means a certain thing. When Tyson hits the ground, he's finished.
Maurice Green was a Kickboxer that won against Specialist MMA fighter Mark "Hammer" Coleman about 5 years back, This fight was defining in Mike Tyson favour, Green had never been put on the ground as a distinguished career as a world champion kickboxer,But 3 months of learning the ground game he over came Coleman and won.Being the athlete Tyson was give him 3 months training on the ground this would nullify any MMA athletes head start imagine Tyson with a competent ground game and any MMA athlete would be toast.Kicking in all the MMA fighting is nor here or there Tyson was able to dodge punchers from guys who had amazing reach.
Mike Tyson at his prime with 3 months of ground fighting capabilities is only fair in the eqaution of Tyson fighting an MMA athlete, risking his title as a man killer.
Tyson is now to old to fight the passion and the spark has left him but Tyson in his prime taught ground skills is only fair in a imaginary fight with the best MMA fighter.
You workout the outcome over 5 rounds where the MMA athlete would have to put him on the ground 5 consecutive times to win the fight its not going to happen.
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #244 on: April 03, 2008, 05:02:45 AM »
Maurice Green was a Kickboxer that won against Specialist MMA fighter Mark "Hammer" Coleman about 5 years back, This fight was defining in Mike Tyson favour, Green had never been put on the ground as a distinguished career as a world champion kickboxer,But 3 months of learning the ground game he over came Coleman and won.Being the athlete Tyson was give him 3 months training on the ground this would nullify any MMA athletes head start imagine Tyson with a competent ground game and any MMA athlete would be toast.Kicking in all the MMA fighting is nor here or there Tyson was able to dodge punchers from guys who had amazing reach.
Mike Tyson at his prime with 3 months of ground fighting capabilities is only fair in the eqaution of Tyson fighting an MMA athlete, risking his title as a man killer.
Tyson is now to old to fight the passion and the spark has left him but Tyson in his prime taught ground skills is only fair in a imaginary fight with the best MMA fighter.
You workout the outcome over 5 rounds where the MMA athlete would have to put him on the ground 5 consecutive times to win the fight its not going to happen.
LIGHTS OUT MMA athlete.
HAHAHA This thread will go on for days!! War Tyson!!
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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #245 on: April 03, 2008, 10:56:21 AM »
Tyson was one of the most spectacular boxers, yes. One of the greatest ever, HELL NO!! Who did he beat an old ass Larry Holmes? To be considered "great" you must beat "great" fighters. He kayoed a bunch of bums, seriously. Think about all the fighters Ali beat, Sonny Liston (twice), Floyd Patterson (twice), Jerry Quarry (twice), Bob Foster, Ken Norton, Joe Frazier (twice), George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers. And thats with missing 3 full years!!! People that say Mike Tyson was the greatest all time, in his little "prime" or otherwise seriously don't know boxing, they are just in awe of his spectacular kayoes. If you think back to the beginning of UFC when you had strictly submission guys, like Shamrock, Gracie, and Severn but you also had your strikers, and one that comes to mind was Patrick Smith who had really solid punching and kicking skills and won most of his fights with devestating kayoes. However, when he got in the ring with a skilled submission guy it was all over. Tyson would not have even done as good as Pat Smith, seriously. Tyson is all hype, he just knocked out bums, period.

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #246 on: April 03, 2008, 11:02:30 AM »
Hong Man Choi, or something like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G132rcDX0YU

He seemed very calm and confident here........

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #247 on: April 03, 2008, 03:19:42 PM »
Tyson was one of the most spectacular boxers, yes. One of the greatest ever, HELL NO!! Who did he beat an old ass Larry Holmes? To be considered "great" you must beat "great" fighters. He kayoed a bunch of bums, seriously. Think about all the fighters Ali beat, Sonny Liston (twice), Floyd Patterson (twice), Jerry Quarry (twice), Bob Foster, Ken Norton, Joe Frazier (twice), George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers. And thats with missing 3 full years!!! People that say Mike Tyson was the greatest all time, in his little "prime" or otherwise seriously don't know boxing, they are just in awe of his spectacular kayoes. If you think back to the beginning of UFC when you had strictly submission guys, like Shamrock, Gracie, and Severn but you also had your strikers, and one that comes to mind was Patrick Smith who had really solid punching and kicking skills and won most of his fights with devestating kayoes. However, when he got in the ring with a skilled submission guy it was all over. Tyson would not have even done as good as Pat Smith, seriously. Tyson is all hype, he just knocked out bums, period.

In terms of achievement no he wasnt as great as Ali, but in head to head terms, prime v prime, its a 50-50 fight.

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #248 on: April 03, 2008, 03:25:58 PM »
Tyson does nt look scared in that clip! He looks relaxed and seems to be having fun!

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Re: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
« Reply #249 on: April 03, 2008, 03:31:12 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G132rcDX0YU

He seemed very calm and confident here........

That giant asian would bring Tyson down in one punch.