"Crack kills hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. It lays waste both mentally and physically, destroys families, and is destructive in every way. Just because something is illegal (currently) doesn't mean it's the evil you make it out to be...there are plenty of LEGAL substances out there today far more destructive..like cigarettes and alcohol...both of which kill millions of people each year, and lead to innocent people becoming victoms as well. Last I checked, there still has yet to be one reported case of someone dying from test or deca...."
As a physician, this is the biggest myth in bodybuilding, the ABUSE of the steroids does lead to death, and there are plenty of case reports to prove this (and I will post a couple of them). Bob I don't want it to seem I am attacking you, although reading again my previous posts, I must admit it seems like I am. I just find it frustarting that here you are in a position to make a statement, as an IFBB rep, against anabolic steroid abuse and the mess that it has caused to bodybuilding, but you refuse to. Instead, you make arguments that you know are flawed, but still make them. You are a smart man Bob, you have to be to get to your level of success, but seriously, use your intellect and change this sport for the positive. How many people do you want to see die or suffer health consequences, before you stand up and do something?
"Last I checked, there still has yet to be one reported case of someone dying from test or deca...."
Here are just a couple, I hope you can sleep well at night with this new found information...
Int J Legal Med. 2007 Jan;121(1):48-53. Epub 2005 Nov 15.Click here to read
Sudden cardiac death during anabolic steroid abuse: morphologic and toxicologic findings in two fatal cases of bodybuilders.
Fineschi V, Riezzo I, Centini F, Silingardi E, Licata M, Beduschi G, Karch SB.
Institute of Forensic Pathology, University of Foggia, Ospedali Riuniti, Foggia, Italy. vfinesc@tin.it
We report two cases of sudden cardiac death (SCD) involving previously healthy bodybuilders who were chronic androgenic-anabolic steroids users. In both instances, autopsies, histology of the organs, and toxicologic screening were performed. Our findings support an emerging consensus that the effects of vigorous weight training, combined with anabolic steroid use and increased androgen sensitivity, may predispose these young men to myocardial injury and even SCD.
Tidsskr Nor Laegeforen. 2004 Jan 22;124(2):170-2.
Acute myocardial infarction in a young man who had been using androgenic anabolic steroids
Arch Pathol Lab Med. 2001 Feb;125(2):253-5.
Anabolic steroid abuse and cardiac sudden death: a pathologic study.
Do you really want me to keep on going Bob... how about this scenario, a couple of 18 and 20 year old kids go to the gym see one of you pros you represent, emulate them to become the best "athletes." Given your apathy about this subject, this could not happen right??? Well ask the parents of these two children...
I will even post the abstract for you to read...
Med J Aust. 1993 Mar 1;158(5):346-8.
Anabolic steroid abuse and cardiac death.
OBJECTIVE: To examine the relationship between anabolic steroid abuse and cardiac death. We report the first two cases in Australia. They are the only reported cases in which the anabolic steroid oxymesterone has been detected. This compound has never been approved for use in Australia. CLINICAL FEATURES: Two footballers, aged 18 and 24, sustained fatal cardiac arrests while at training sessions. Both were considered fit and healthy. OUTCOME: Autopsy revealed features of a hypertrophic cardiomyopathy in the 18-year-old; the 24-year-old had findings of a myocarditis. In both cases the coronary arteries were normal and there was no evidence of coronary thrombosis. Urine in both subjects contained the anabolic steroid oxymesterone. CONCLUSIONS: There are limited clinical uses for anabolic steroids but they are widely abused by athletes in attempts to alter lean body mass and strength. Acute non-fatal myocardial infarction was first reported in 1988 and fatal myocardial infarction in 1990. While a causal relationship is hard to prove, it is possible that the anabolic steroid contributed to the increase in cardiac size in the first subject and may have increased his responsiveness to catecholamines causing an arrhythmogenic event. In the second, the inflammatory changes could have provided the focus for an arrhythmia. It would appear that anabolic steroid abuse should be considered in any athlete presenting with an acute vascular event.
