Here is another quote of yours from the same thread:
"To see evolutionary measures and tribal morality being applied vigorously to the affairs of a great modern nation, we must turn again to Germany of 1942. We see Hitler devoutly convinced that evolution produces the only real basis for a national policy … . The means he adopted to secure the destiny of his race and people were organized slaughter, which has drenched Europe in blood … . Such conduct is highly immoral as measured by every scale of ethics, yet Germany justifies it; it is consonant with tribal or evolutionary morality. Germany has reverted to the tribal past, and is demonstrating to the world, in their naked ferocity, the methods of evolution."
Sir Arthur Keith, Evolution and Ethics (New York: Putman, 1947), p. 28.
And here is Sir Arthur Keith's work. Can you find this quote on page 28?
http://reactor-core.org/evolution-and-ethics.html
Well, you can't because it doesn't exist as you've posted it. It's been "built" from random passages throughout with some ... ellipses to evoke something COMPLETELY different from what the author intended. The author was an evolutionist, loved Darwin, and was explaining Hitler's behavior in the context of evolutionary behavior. Presenting it this way was dishonest. More than likely you didn't do it yourself, just copied it, but still, it's totally dishonest. I pointed that out to you when you first posted it.
Deedee, sorry it took me so long, but here it is! You are correct that I did not come up with Sir Arthur Keith's quotes above. I just copied it. There are Jewish websites out there that quote Sir Arthur Keith as evidence of a link between Hitler, the Holocaust and Darwinian Evolution, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is an example.
But thank you very much for providing me with a link to the entire text so that I can read it for myself and so that I can post it when I quote Sir Arthur Keith myself. I read it, and I don't see how the person who put together these quotes was being dishonest.
First of all, it is not one quote, but a set of three quotes. If you look again you'll see that they were separated by three dots(...), which clearly indicates that there is more text to be read but the person did not want to bore us with all of that text or to have us lose interest or attention. Many people do these when they quote somebody and the readers appreciate it because they don't have time or attention span to read the whole thing. Even Sir Arthur Keith does this himself when he is quoting somebody else. This is not dishonest.
They also provided the source, so that people can go see for themselves. I looked at your link and the text is there. So they were not being dishonest. Here is the entire text that includes all three passages above:
"To see evolutionary measures and tribal morality being applied rigorously to the affairs of a great modern nation we must turn again to Germany of 1942. We see Hitler devoutly convinced that evolution provides the only real basis for a national policy.
Long before he had reduced greater Germany to a tribal unit he gave this as a "national ultimate": "To fight for security and increase of our race and people . . . so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator." In the words of Dr. Waddington, Hitler accepted "the direction of evolution as good simply because it is good." The means he adopted to secure the destiny of his race and people were organized slaughter, which has drenched Europe in blood.
I shall return to the part which war plays and has played in the evolution of mankind; meantime let me quote from a speech which Goebbels has just delivered: "We conquer territory in order to organize it for ourselves . . . not for prestige, but for reasons of state and nation." Such conduct is highly immoral as measured by every scale of ethics, yet Germany justifies it; it is consonant with tribal or evolutionary morality. Germany has reverted to the tribal past, and is demonstrating to the world, in their naked ferocity, the methods of evolution, with this difference what were mere border forays between tribes have become the clash of massed millions using the forked lightning of modern science. She protects her own people and nurses her own Kultur while she seeks to undo all other people and to destroy their civilization."Deedee, whether or not there is a link between Hitler and Darwin's theory of evolution, if you want to persuade me or anybody else that there is no link, keep Sir Arthur Keith's work away from us. He does nothing to support your cause. Here is more from the link that you posted:
"Under no stretch of imagination can war be regarded as an ethical process;3 yet war, force, terror, and propaganda were the evolutionary means employed to weld the German people into a tribal whole. No, the modern methods of evolution are, from an ethical point of view, immoral."
Sir Arthur Keith, Evolution and Ethics, page 9 "The leader of Germany is an evolutionist not only in theory, but, as millions know to their cost, in the rigor of its practice. For him the national "front" of Europe is also the evolutionary "front"; he regards himself, and is regarded, as the incarnation of the will of Germany, the purpose of that will being to guide the evolutionary destiny of its people."
Sir Arthur Keith, Evolution and Ethics, page 9"The liberties of German women are to be sacrificed; they must devote their activities to their households, especially to the sacred duty of raising succeeding generations. The birth rate was stimulated by bounties and subsidies so that the German tribe might grow in numbers and in strength. In all these matters the Nazi doctrine is evolutionist."
Sir Arthur Keith, Evolution and Ethics, page 11"Hitler is an uncompromising evolutionist, and we must seek for an evolutionary explanation if we are to understand his actions."
Sir Arthur Keith, Evolution and Ethics, page 13"The German Fuhrer, as I have consistently maintained, is an evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution."
Sir Arthur Keith, Evolution and Ethics, page 229 http://reactor-core.org/evolution-and-ethics.html