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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2008, 11:18:20 AM »
You didn't read one flippin word from that transcript did you??

You posted 3,136 words, Joe.  I did a Word count.

Can you please summarize?  Also, you posted Rush's explanation for talking about the tape, EARLIER.  You do this often.  You don't post Rush's initial flub (like when he tried to incite riots in Denver).  You post his prepared explanation of the flub.  That's weak, dude.  Please post the exact text Rush used when INTRODUCING the tape to his listeners.  Not the prepared "cover his ass" statement.

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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2008, 11:37:16 AM »
Any problems with Keith Olberman 240?

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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2008, 11:41:00 AM »
Any problems with Keith Olberman 240?

Olbermann is an Obama salesman.

however, unlike Rush, who will float a story that "maybe Obama's wife hates white people, but we'll let you know later", Olbermann has FACTS for everything.

As evidence, I give you last night's piece on NBC.  He breaks down each McCain quote for "it's not too important when the troops come home".




THAT is the difference.  Olbermann presents quotes as evidence.  Rush uses a tape that doesn't exist.

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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2008, 11:44:25 AM »
Olbermann is an Obama salesman.

however, unlike Rush, who will float a story that "maybe Obama's wife hates white people, but we'll let you know later", Olbermann has FACTS for everything.

As evidence, I give you last night's piece on NBC.  He breaks down each McCain quote for "it's not too important when the troops come home".




THAT is the difference.  Olbermann presents quotes as evidence.  Rush uses a tape that doesn't exist.
uh huh..................pre tty much what I expected.

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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2008, 11:47:16 AM »
uh huh..................pre tty much what I expected.

Olbermann listed 10 direct Mccain quotes to show contradictory positions on the troops.

Rush used a rumor of a tape which would absolutely sink Obama's career.

Do you not see a difference here?

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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2008, 12:07:37 PM »
ok 240, you're voting for Obama, you lean to the left even though you say otherwise, you hate Rush and the like, blah blah blah.  Everyone knows what Rush is about and there are plenty on the other side who are just as vicious. There are more lefties with a forum than conservatives, always has been.

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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2008, 12:15:35 PM »
ok 240, you're voting for Obama, you lean to the left even though you say otherwise, you hate Rush and the like, blah blah blah.  Everyone knows what Rush is about and there are plenty on the other side who are just as vicious. There are more lefties with a forum than conservatives, always has been.

actually I'm probably learning libertarian.  Neither candidate fits the bill for me.  I've never voted Dem in my life. 

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« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2008, 12:16:06 PM »
Mincing Up Michelle By MAUREEN DOWD
WASHINGTON

Hillary and Bill are busy updating their enemies lists. And Obama is racking his brain trying to figure out where to stash his erstwhile rival.

If a President Obama put her on the Supreme Court, of course, we would have the infinite fun of hearing Bill rant about how Scalia, Alito, Thomas and Roberts were dissing Hillary.

It’s good news for Obama that Hillary’s out of the race. But it’s also bad news. Now Republicans can turn their full attention to demonizing Michelle Obama. Mrs. Obama is the new, unwilling contestant in Round Two of the sulfurous national game of “Kill the witch.”

There are some who think it will be harder for America to accept a black first lady — the national hostess who serenely presides over the White House Christmas festivities and the Easter egg roll — than a black president.

There are creepy Web sites, like TheObamaFile.com, dedicated to painting Michelle as a female version of Jeremiah Wright, an angry black woman, the disgruntled, lecturing “Mrs. Grievance” depicted on the cover of National Review.

On that site and others around the Internet, the seamy rumors still slither that there’s a tape of Michelle denouncing “whitey,” a rumor that Barack Obama disdained last week as “scurrilous.”

E.D. Hill, the Fox anchor who said that the celebrated fist pump between Michelle and her husband the night he snagged the nomination could be called a “terrorist fist jab,” apologized Tuesday.

In their narrative of how Hillary lost in The Times on Sunday, Jim Rutenberg and Peter Baker said that Mark Penn argued that Hillary should subtly stress Obama’s “lack of American roots.”

That’s a good preview of how Republicans will attack Michelle, suggesting that she does not share American values, mining a subtext of race.

She’s a devoted daughter, wife and mother who has lived the American dream, from the humble South Side of Chicago to Harvard Law School. Hey, isn’t it totally unAmerican to complain that being a black woman in the ’80s at a class-conscious, white-bread college, Princeton, was somewhat uncomfortable?

Just as Bill and Hillary did the “Pssst! He’s black!” thing on Barry, now the Republicans will use the same tactic on the strong and opinionated Michelle.

Unlike her husband, who wrote in his memoir that he had learned at a young age to smile and charm and disarm whites of the notion that he might be a bristly black militant, Michelle has not always hidden her jangly opinions so well. She has spent more time dwelling on the ways in which society can pull down the less privileged and refers a lot to a callous but unnamed “They.”

“Michelle,” as one political observer puts it, “is a target-rich environment.”

Team Obama is hoping for the best. When she’s on her game, after all, Michelle is a knockout. And as one Obama booster enthuses: “Michelle’s story is a lot more mainstream American than Cindy McCain inheriting a brewery.”

But the campaign is preparing for the worst, planning to shore up Michelle with her own slick and quick war room staffed by top operatives from previous campaigns.

David Axelrod thinks “there’s a real recoil potential” if the Republicans go after Michelle. “I don’t think she’s projecting herself into the fray in a way that would justify that,” he said, adding that her charming and polite daughters, Malia and Sasha, are walking testimony to Michelle’s “loving parenting.”

Mike Murphy, the G.O.P. strategist who worked for John McCain in 2000, but not yet this year, said Michelle is heading into her “big moment in the sun.”

“She’ll have the opportunity to do pretty well and the opportunity to really screw up.” he said. “What I glimpse of her from far away makes me think there could be trouble, but anytime you have that size microphone, she will have some control over how she handles the pressure.”

She’s going to take her big microphone on “The View” as a co-host next week, when she will no doubt try to put her remark about her belated pride in her country in context. And she clearly scored a pre-emptive hit both with her chic style — Vogue’s André Leon Talley declared in The Times the dawn of “a black Camelot” — and with her playful fist pump that now has older white guys, like North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley, awkwardly trying to do it with Obama.

The dap or pound, as it’s also called, was a natural and beguiling moment that showed the country that, even though she started out as her husband’s boss and has a résumé that matches his, she likes him and is rooting for him, and is not engaged in a dreaded Clintonesque competition with him. (On the night of the Pennsylvania primary, Bill was eagerly checking to see who had swayed more voters — him or Hillary.)

“She isn’t sitting with a fixed, adoring gaze,” Axelrod said. “But she obviously loves him deeply and believes in him, and more than that, she believes in this. And that motivates him.”

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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2008, 12:17:13 PM »
And the left knows nothing about railroading anybody in a pres. election right?  Oh ya, there were those few instances with Dan Rather and 60 minutes in the last election, fake documents, etc.    Ya that darn Rush.

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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2008, 12:18:54 PM »
actually I'm probably learning libertarian.  Neither candidate fits the bill for me.  I've never voted Dem in my life. 
Full of shit. You're voting for Obama.  ;)
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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2008, 02:17:12 PM »
FOX news referred to Barak's wife Michelle Obama as "His babymama"

I kid you not.

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« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2008, 02:18:38 PM »
FOX news referred to Barak's wife Michelle Obama as "His babymama"

I kid you not.

I thought she was the biological parent?

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« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2008, 02:42:55 PM »
I thought she was the biological parent?

Both of their children were born in wedlock.  She is the parent.  It is a derogatory term, pretty obvious there. 

Mccain's wife has a hitory of drug abuse.  She stole him from his first wife in an affair.  And he called her a cuunt in front of a bunch of reporters in 2000.

Should MSNBC's news scroll read "Mccain and junkie cuunt homewrecker Cindy visited..."

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Re: NBC, Obama, and now RUSH LIMBAUGH (?) say tape doesn't exist
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2008, 03:23:44 PM »
240, you make some good points but you also make leaps.  If that transcript is accurate, it was not Rush who made a big deal of the tape.  I have also heard the info was first leaked by Hillary supporters, so you're not really correct on that point.  However, there is no tape until one is produced and therefore, it is a non-issue at this point.  I agree with you there.  By the way, I also do not like the neocons.  I'm not a fan of Rush and his style.  I am a big supporter of the libertarian moderate republicans...I hope that gets more steam.

I encourage everyone to read passages (if you can find them) of Michelle Obama's graduate thesis.  Its all about race relations and her negative experience at Princeton.  She was enrolled in Afro-American studies in the mid 80s.  Michelle Obama’s thesis is unavailable until Nov. 5, 2008 (after the election)...apparently there is a legal restriction placed by Obama's legal team.  Some of the few quotes that were released raise significant concerns when placed in the context that she could be representing all of us as our 1st lady.  Michelle seems to see herself as black first and an American second.  Thats a problem for me, if she is all of our first lady.  It doesn't mean she dislikes her country, just that she has different priorities than most 1st ladies.  I imagine she may have changed some of her views but it seems she & Barack have spent most of their public lives helping the poor segment of the black community, which is noble, but if they want to represent the whole country, I don't feel their background and experiences are reflective of this duty.

IMO, we all need to see ourselves as Americans first and our ancestor's hertiage second.  I don't really care that my ancestors came from Europe...we are all Americans and face the same issues!  We must have leaders that focus on whats best for our nation as a whole, not just a particular economic or racial group.

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« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2008, 03:29:13 PM »
240, you make some good points but you also make leaps.  If that transcript is accurate, it was not Rush who made a big deal of the tape.  I have also heard the info was first leaked by Hillary supporters, so you're not really correct on that point.  However, there is no tape until one is produced and therefore, it is a non-issue at this point.  I agree with you there.  By the way, I also do not like the neocons.  I'm not a fan of Rush and his style.  I am a big supporter of the libertarian moderate republicans...I hope that gets more steam.

I encourage everyone to read passages (if you can find them) of Michelle Obama's graduate thesis.  Its all about race relations and her negative experience at Princeton.  She was enrolled in Afro-American studies in the mid 80s.  Michelle Obama’s thesis is unavailable until Nov. 5, 2008 (after the election)...apparently there is a legal restriction placed by Obama's legal team.  Some of the few quotes that were released raise significant concerns when placed in the context that she could be representing all of us as our 1st lady.  Michelle seems to see herself as black first and an American second.  Thats a problem for me, if she is all of our first lady.  It doesn't mean she dislikes her country, just that she has different priorities than most 1st ladies.  I imagine she may have changed some of her views but it seems she & Barack have spent most of their public lives helping the black community, which is noble, but if they want to represent the whole country, I don't feel their background and experiences are reflective of this duty.

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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2008, 03:31:16 PM »
Well, that was another intelligent responce Benny.  You probably graduated top of your class, didn't ya...

I mean no disrespect to the Obamas from my post. The info in my post is accurate.  You can disagree all you want with my concerns based on that info.

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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2008, 05:23:43 PM »
Well, that was another intelligent responce Benny.  You probably graduated top of your class, didn't ya...

I mean no disrespect to the Obamas from my post. The info in my post is accurate.  You can disagree all you want with my concerns based on that info.
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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2008, 06:06:22 PM »
Amazing how no one talks about Cindy McCain. Let's look at a few facts:

- Admits to having an affair with her now husband when he was married to his first wife
- Former drug addict
- Supported her drug habit by stealing from a children's charity in her 40's
- Lied to everyone this year about recipes being her own invention, when she stole those as well

It's strange how being a loose moralled, liar, drug addicted thief who steals from a children's charity is all fine and dandy, no press on that.  I guess may as well look at the positive, she is a step up really considering the present First Lady killed someone when she was 17  :-\


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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2008, 11:41:04 PM »
Amazing how no one talks about Cindy McCain. Let's look at a few facts:

- Admits Lied to having an affair with her now husband wife when he was married
- Former drug addict
- Supported her drug habit by stealing from a children's charity in her 40's
- Lied to everyone this year about recipes being her own invention, when she stole those as well

It's strange how being a loose moralled, liar, drug addicted thief who steals from a children's charity is all fine and dandy, no press on that.  I guess may as well look at the positive, she is a step up really considering the present First Lady killed someone when she was 17  :-\



Almost sounds like Bill Clinton, except 70+ people didn't mysteriously die or get killed.

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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2008, 11:46:44 PM »
Almost sounds like Bill Clinton, except 70+ people didn't mysteriously die or get killed.

Here you go with the conspiracy theory stuff again joe...

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« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2008, 11:48:43 PM »
Almost sounds like Bill Clinton, except 70+ people didn't mysteriously die or get killed.

What joe did here - instead of addressing CQ's absolutely correct point that Cindy Mcc has WAY more Qs than Obama's wife - was try to redirect the conversation to Bill Clinton.

It's like getting on the stand for murder - and instead of explaining the two bodies in your yard, you tell the judge about how Manson killed FIVE people, and how his crime was WAY worse, yada yada.

He's changing the subject.

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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2008, 11:53:50 PM »
What joe did here - instead of addressing CQ's absolutely correct point that Cindy Mcc has WAY more Qs than Obama's wife - was try to redirect the conversation to Bill Clinton.

It's like getting on the stand for murder - and instead of explaining the two bodies in your yard, you tell the judge about how Manson killed FIVE people, and how his crime was WAY worse, yada yada.

He's changing the subject.

Hey Rob, ya know whats funny about these candidate bashing posts? No matter who runs for anykind of office dirt can always be dug up. But the problem with most of Obamas dirt, it's as recent as 2 years. Just the fact someone has to go back 20 years if laughable in itself. But look who I'm arguing with, the biggest liberal on getbig.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/cindy.asp

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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2008, 11:59:17 PM »
Hey Rob, ya know whats funny about these candidate bashing posts? No matter who runs for anykind of office dirt can always be dug up. But the problem with most of Obamas dirt, it's as recent as 2 years. Just the fact someone has to go back 20 years if laughable in itself. But look who I'm arguing with, the biggest liberal on getbig.

McCain is what, 71 years old?  He's older than dirt.  And he called his wife a trollup and a cuunt, 7 years ago.

And he changed his policy on taxes and said it's not important if the troops come home THIS YEAR.

Me? The biggest liberal?  I think not.  I'm happy to help you point out obama's flaws, he has many.  But his wife and his pastor are pathetic issues to attack him on.  It means the attackers aren't smart enough to point out his weak military experience, his weak economy experience, his lack of explanations for what he'll change, etc.

You see - people see you diss his wife - and they think, "is this the BEST joe can do?  talk about dude's wife?  Is obama that perfect that Joe won't talk abuot him... he'll only diss his priest of wife because their ideas MIGHT influence obama in a way that'll hurt us"?

Dude, point out the flaws in his POLICY.  Not his friends/family.  THAT is why the repubs are getting creamed in congress, why america wants change, why FOX news is a joke now... they make up shit about "terrorist fist bumps" instead of talking about REAL ISSUES.


So... are you prepared to speak on REAL ISSUES?   Or do you prefer to look the fool by bitching about some tape - which might exist - with his wife's opinion? 

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« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2008, 12:14:43 AM »
McCain is what, 71 years old?  He's older than dirt.  And he called his wife a trollup and a cuunt, 7 years ago.

And he changed his policy on taxes and said it's not important if the troops come home THIS YEAR.

Me? The biggest liberal?  I think not.  I'm happy to help you point out obama's flaws, he has many.  But his wife and his pastor are pathetic issues to attack him on.  It means the attackers aren't smart enough to point out his weak military experience, his weak economy experience, his lack of explanations for what he'll change, etc.

You see - people see you diss his wife - and they think, "is this the BEST joe can do?  talk about dude's wife?  Is obama that perfect that Joe won't talk abuot him... he'll only diss his priest of wife because their ideas MIGHT influence obama in a way that'll hurt us"?

Dude, point out the flaws in his POLICY.  Not his friends/family.  THAT is why the repubs are getting creamed in congress, why america wants change, why FOX news is a joke now... they make up shit about "terrorist fist bumps" instead of talking about REAL ISSUES.
So... are you prepared to speak on REAL ISSUES?   Or do you prefer to look the fool by bitching about some tape - which might exist - with his wife's opinion? 

1. You said you're a republican yet you apologize for him. Being a republican you should KNOW the flaws in policy. Pull the troops out ASAP-MISTAKE, Nationalize health care -dumb as the day is long, Repeal Bush tax cuts - retard, Raise capitol gains from 15 to 25% (hell, he wants to raise all taxes) Raise the minimum wage every year (forgot for how long) etc,etc,etc

2. Prove where Fox is making shit up, they're the only one's wo tell both sides, the problem is liberals hate Fox because the show the truth.

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« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2008, 12:20:27 AM »
1. You said you're a republican yet you apologize for him. Being a republican you should KNOW the flaws in policy. Pull the troops out ASAP-MISTAKE, Nationalize health care -dumb as the day is long, Repeal Bush tax cuts - retard, Raise capitol gains from 15 to 25% (hell, he wants to raise all taxes) Raise the minimum wage every year (forgot for how long) etc,etc,etc

I agree with most of those.  They're pure garbage.  The tax cuts - however - that affects YOU, so you're all for them.  McCain was against them for more of the last 8 years, you know this.  He changed positions to win the nod.  Since spending will not be stopped by either candidate, we NEED to bump up taxes on the highest 2-5%, as they've coasted under bush.  Obama said 250k is the magic number, so I know he's going to fck you out of about 40k next year.  I'd hate him too, if I were you.

I like it when you talk abuot policy, man!  It's the nonstop crap about his wife, preacher, fist bump, etc, that are non-relevant distractor issues.  People here are bright, and want to know if his policies are good or bad.  They don't want some reporters interpretation that a fist bump between a man/wife is a 'secret tarror handshake'.


2. Prove where Fox is making shit up, they're the only one's wo tell both sides, the problem is liberals hate Fox because the show the truth.

Fox's ED hill called the fist bump a terrorist handshake.  She apologized for it.  She admitted she made it up, thought it was funny.  SHE proves they make shit up, joe.