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MisterMagoo

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Re: being a better spotter
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2008, 12:55:43 PM »
go and watch olympic weightlifters ::) ::) ::)

oly lifters squat SO far under their max it's not even funny. they basically squat what they clean plus a little weight for purposes of explosive power. that's why you have hossein squatting 600-ish when he's clearly capable of high 700s if not 800.

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Re: being a better spotter
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2008, 04:07:14 PM »
I am very familiar with Olympic lifters. No offense to my PL'ing buds  but I think Olympic lifters are the true athlete's of the lifting game. If nothing else, Olympic lifting is a sport of skill, flexibility, timing and quickness. Sure do admire PL'ers who can move huge weight for short distance. But I respect anyone much more who can clean a huge weight from the floor and jerk it fully overhead, at a much greater distance, and lock it out for a few seconds. That would also include lifting huge weight overhead in one fluid motion, like in the snatch. I would think that it would be a personal insult to any true lifter to even suggest that a spotter would ever be needed.

Squating, either front, Olympic style, overhead or squat cleans (try either overhead squating or deep squat cleans for 12 reps, with  a medium weight, and tell us all how you feel afterwards), are trained for stamina and power. Generally reps are never near their true max when training on a lift.They are training for the full function of that lift it's self. Form tends to draw strength to a lift when that is done.  But they do have certain days in their train protocol when heavier squats are attempted. I heard some of them call that fun day. Also very big on front rack squats, while getting many reps in. And never a spotter in sight. 

I have been told by older lifters, and have read, that some of the former Eastern block nations lifters like Bulgarian and Romanian's were renown for walking off the street (still in street clothes-with no warm-ups)  getting under 500lbs or so, and knocking off a few quick reps of bottom out squats.  To improve their function of squating, more squating at any weight was done.  So if they passed a loaded bar on a rack , no matter the weight, they would get in some quick reps with it. (At that time all the spotters were on welfare because of no work for them to do.) Good Luck.

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Re: being a better spotter
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2008, 11:06:25 AM »
the true "athletes" of the lifting game are strongman competitors. end of story. oly lifters train for TWO lifts, both of which are actually quite similar in that they're a deadlift/squat combo with a lockout overhead and requires absolutely no endurance, just snap explosive strength. compare that to a guy who has to carry 220lb farmer's walk units 50 yards, throw 10 huge kegs over a bar, lift giant stone spheres onto platforms, pull a truck, walk with the yoke, and do heavy-ass log presses.

if you're going to play mr elitist, get your facts right. oly lifting takes more skill, but oly lifters aren't the most athletic strength athletes by a LONG shot.

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Re: being a better spotter
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2008, 12:17:28 PM »
Olympic Lifters #1

Master Ma-gooo may need glasses. Wonder if Strongman competitors require spotters, which was the original vent of this thread...Good Luck.
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Re: being a better spotter
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2008, 02:54:12 PM »
Olympic Lifters #1

Master Ma-gooo may need glasses. Wonder if Strongman competitors require spotters, which was the original vent of this thread...Good Luck.
this was my thread!!! hijacker >:(
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Re: being a better spotter
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2008, 07:15:32 PM »
Olympic Lifters #1

Master Ma-gooo may need glasses. Wonder if Strongman competitors require spotters, which was the original vent of this thread...Good Luck.

you. dumbass. ever seen an oly lifter collapse and injure himself? mighta been nice to have a spotter handy.

anyway, back on topic. a spotter on squats is great if for nothing beyond the mental aspect. when part of your brain realizes that you can go all out and even if you slip up the bar's going to still make it up, you're more apt to complete a lift. it's psychosomatic, often times just having a spotter make contact makes it possible to hit the lift.

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Re: being a better spotter
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2008, 07:23:35 PM »
you. dumbass. ever seen an oly lifter collapse and injure himself? mighta been nice to have a spotter handy.

anyway, back on topic. a spotter on squats is great if for nothing beyond the mental aspect. when part of your brain realizes that you can go all out and even if you slip up the bar's going to still make it up, you're more apt to complete a lift. it's psychosomatic, often times just having a spotter make contact makes it possible to hit the lift.

Calm down and cut ouf the name-calling tough guy, take a break from the macho-man crap you've overplayed it.

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Re: being a better spotter
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2008, 10:23:28 PM »
Calm down and cut ouf the name-calling tough guy, take a break from the macho-man crap you've overplayed it.

i'll make you a deal. i'll quit every shred of my "tough guy" attitude (which is funny considering i think i'm as tough as a marshmallow peep in the microwave) if you do one of the following:

1) prove any of your claims, from lifting prowess to bodybuilding accomplishments. i'm not picky.

2) stop going on deletion/flaming sprees when confronted with someone who disagrees with you. you followed me onto the G&O at least twice spewing like a four year old the last time you and i got into it. for a mod, that's horrendously immature.

deal?