Massive pumpster obsession here as usual lol
"magoo" takes 3 attempts to get posts that make any sense, getting the wording and meanings wrong initially, then compounds it by claiming something that he never substantiates. On top of that he neglects to notice that there's very little conclusive research out there, despite unsubstatiated claims to know what the last word is here.
Overload likes making blanket statemets because he apparently has the definitive answers even though they're always easily blown up. Then he quickly disappears.
Basically you've got two characters on here claiming to "know fer sure" that they have the last word when they've simply got opinions that they don't bother mentioning are just that, opinions that are easily challenged.
Carry on kidz, but stick to training and less personal obsession it ain't interesting.