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'Disabled' firefighter competes in bodybuilding contest
« on: July 15, 2008, 08:42:37 AM »
Mayor urges disability pension denial
Says bodybuilding firefighter abused system
By John C. Drake, Globe Staff

Mayor Thomas M. Menino of Boston called on the city's Retirement Board yesterday to deny a disability pension to a firefighter who competed in bodybuilding competitions after claiming to have suffered a career-ending fall at a firehouse.

The Boston Globe reported yesterday that firefighter Albert Arroyo finished eighth in a men's bodybuilding competition on May 3, six weeks after his doctor recommended to city officials that he be granted an accidental disability retirement because he was "totally and permanently disabled."

The case was reported as the Justice Department investigates allegations of broad abuse of disability pensions by firefighters.

"I was very surprised to see this incident, how brazen it was, in the face of all the other issues that have been brought up over the last several months," Menino said in a telephone interview.

"We can't allow abuse like this to ruin the department. We've got to come down hard on people who abuse the system."

Fire Commissioner Roderick J. Fraser Jr. told the Globe he learned of Arroyo's bodybuilding prowess in May and subsequently urged the Retirement Board to deny his application. Two weeks ago, the Fire Department shifted Arroyo from injured leave, which had provided him his full salary tax-free, to regular sick leave, which gives him taxable pay after ruling that any injury he suffered was not work-related, public records show.

The firefighters union, locked in a contentious contract dispute with Menino, has pushed back against charges that its members have abused the pension system. As part of the contract talks, the Menino administration is trying to remove a provision that allows firefighters to receive enhanced pensions if they report career-ending injuries while filling in for superiors.

Union president Edward J. Kelly did not return a phone call.

Sam Tyler, executive director of the business-funded Boston Municipal Research Bureau, said he was taken aback by news that a firefighter had made a claim for disability benefits while touting his physical fitness in competitions.

Tyler said Arroyo's case illustrates an "insular culture" within the Fire Department that promotes questionable injury claims.

"I'm slightly amazed that in a time when the US attorney is looking at this issue that anybody would take steps where they're much more visible in an active way that would question their fitness," Tyler said. "I don't know if that's just the culture that says this is OK and I don't need to worry about what the US attorney's doing, but I think it reinforces what has been known to be a problem.

"I hope it strengthens the call for real scrutiny on the part of the administration, as well as the state, on the whole disability retirement process, particularly for uniformed employees."

The Globe reported in January that injured firefighters have been on injured leave status for years while collecting full salaries, tax-free. Once the disability retirements are approved by the Retirement Board, retirees receive 72 percent of their salary, also tax-free. Tyler said the Retirement Board has now speeded up the process, under Fraser's urging.

In Arroyo's case, the Retirement Board last month asked the doctor who initially diagnosed him with total disability to reconsider his findings, in light of the firefighter's bodybuilding history.

"I would think the Retirement Board, with the facts that were shown to them, would not grant this guy a full disability," Menino said.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/07/15/mayor_urges_disability_pension_denial/

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Re: 'Disabled' firefighter competes in bodybuilding contest
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 08:46:50 AM »
I have mixed feelings about this.  I don’t doubt that there are many firefighters abusing the disability system in Boston, but being legitimately disabled does not mean he cannot engage in bodybuilding.  The are guys in wheelchairs who bodybuild, guys with missing limbs, and I’m sure everyone here remembers that pic of the woman with no arms on the bodybuilding stage. 

If he is for real, he needs a good lawyer to fight this case for him; if he is a fraud then throw him under the bus.


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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 08:47:13 AM »
this is big news around here. Not the sharpest tool in the shed...

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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 08:51:13 AM »
I have mixed feelings about this.  I don’t doubt that there are many firefighters abusing the disability system in Boston, but being legitimately disabled does not mean he cannot engage in bodybuilding.  The are guys in wheelchairs who bodybuild, guys with missing limbs, and I’m sure everyone here remembers that pic of the woman with no arms on the bodybuilding stage. 

He if is for real, he needs a good lawyer to fight this case for him; if he is a fraud then throw him under the bus.


true, if anything i'm sure the city isn't pleased about the message it sends.  A lot of people are struggling(foreclosures;which i'm not sympathetic about etc..). It doesn't "look good" to the public.

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 08:55:36 AM »
>a firefighter had made a claim for disability benefits while touting his physical fitness in competitions.


This is the source of the confusion.  All he has to do is explain to them that bodybuilding is not about physical fitness at all.  Rather it is about parading around with cosmetic muscles.  :D

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 08:56:20 AM »
LMAO !!!!

what an idiot

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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 08:58:00 AM »
>a firefighter had made a claim for disability benefits while touting his physical fitness in competitions.


This is the source of the confusion.  All he has to do is explain to them that bodybuilding is not about physical fitness at all.  Rather it is about parading around with cosmetic muscles.  :D
HAHAHAHAH. Maybe he slipped on baby oil and dreamtan backstage and hurt his back?

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Re: 'Disabled' firefighter competes in bodybuilding contest
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 09:19:59 AM »
>a firefighter had made a claim for disability benefits while touting his physical fitness in competitions.


This is the source of the confusion.  All he has to do is explain to them that bodybuilding is not about physical fitness at all.  Rather it is about parading around with cosmetic muscles.  :D


 ;D

HAHAHAHAH. Maybe he slipped on baby oil and dreamtan backstage and hurt his back?

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 09:49:28 AM »
>a firefighter had made a claim for disability benefits while touting his physical fitness in competitions.


This is the source of the confusion.  All he has to do is explain to them that bodybuilding is not about physical fitness at all.  Rather it is about parading around with cosmetic muscles.  :D

I might add: parading around with cosmetic muscles for an audience of cheering men.  ;D

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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 01:08:46 PM »
I posted this on the 14th....got 2 replies neither of which  had anything to do directly related to the story, which I thought was interesting and totally fit on a bb board......
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=224002.0

Now Bay Posts it and gets 9 replies.......

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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 01:16:59 PM »
I have mixed feelings about this.  I don’t doubt that there are many firefighters abusing the disability system in Boston, but being legitimately disabled does not mean he cannot engage in bodybuilding.  The are guys in wheelchairs who bodybuild, guys with missing limbs, and I’m sure everyone here remembers that pic of the woman with no arms on the bodybuilding stage. 

If he is for real, he needs a good lawyer to fight this case for him; if he is a fraud then throw him under the bus.



i ahve seen a guy a year ago in an irish show that had two prosthetic legs

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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 03:08:54 PM »
8th place
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Re: 'Disabled' firefighter competes in bodybuilding contest
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 08:41:35 PM »
I don't see the problem...One could easily build a body like his or better on about 30 minutes of weight lifting 4 days a week...That is two hours a week total...

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 07:37:07 AM »
I posted this on the 14th....got 2 replies neither of which  had anything to do directly related to the story, which I thought was interesting and totally fit on a bb board......
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=224002.0

Now Bay Posts it and gets 9 replies.......

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There is a method to good posting on getbig you have yet to master:  You posted a naked link; this is a lazy approach to posting and people don't like it.  Look at the title of your thread and look at the title of mine.  You need to give people a reason to click the link such a summary of the story or what they should expect to find when they click the link.  I posted the story and the link (which also included a video).

It also helps to have a getbig "personality" that people recognize and are drawn to; some people have a compelling history of posting: you know that whatever they post is going to be interesting to you so you look for their name and read all the things they post (conversely there are people you avoid based on their history).  You'll know when you get to this  good personality point because you will have lots of private messages with various members.  The most interesting exchanges on this board occur via private messages.  ;)

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2009, 05:26:36 PM »
Those of you in Boston or New England... whatever happened in the Albert Arroyo case?  Did he lose his benefits?  Did the press ever mention that bodybuilding and disability are not incompatible? ???

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2009, 05:29:52 PM »
There is a method to good posting on getbig you have yet to master:  You posted a naked link; this is a lazy approach to posting and people don't like it.  Look at the title of your thread and look at mine.  You need to give people a reason to click the link such a summary of the story or what they should expect to find when they click the link.  I posted the story and the link (which also included a video).

It also helps to have a getbig "personality" that people recognize and are drawn to; some people have a compelling history of posting: you know that whatever they post is going to be interesting to you so you look for their name and read all the things they post (conversely there are people you avoid based on their history).  You'll know when you get to this  good personality point because you will have lots of private messages with various members.  The most interesting exchanges on this board occur via private messages.  ;)

well click on GayBay's links (including the ones labeled: schmoe or "gay", just so we something to hate him for).  Sometimes I spend hours looking through gaybay's gay photos on the sex board, then at the end , i go "jesus that guy's a fucking flamer".
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Re: 'Disabled' firefighter competes in bodybuilding contest
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2009, 05:32:39 PM »
He thought nobody was going to catch him, boy did that hit him in the face. It still sucks though for him :-\.

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2009, 05:38:36 PM »
well click on GayBay's links (including the ones labeled: schmoe or "gay", just so we something to hate him for).  Sometimes I spend hours looking through gaybay's gay photos on the sex board, then at the end , i go "jesus that guy's a fucking flamer". bust my wad.

fixed.  8)

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2009, 05:43:26 PM »
fixed.  8)

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2009, 05:51:49 PM »
well click on GayBay's links (including the ones labeled: schmoe or "gay", just so we something to hate him for).  Sometimes I spend hours looking through gaybay's gay photos on the sex board, then at the end , i go "jesus that guy's a fucking flamer".

haha you just owned yourself  ;D
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2009, 08:42:55 PM »
His phone was being tapped just like almost everyone else's in the U.S who uses key words...He was doomed from the get go...If the guy wants his disability back, a would tell him to run down his Main street in a diaper yelling "They're coming to get me"...

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2009, 09:02:49 PM »
haha you just owned yourself  ;D

I love it when someone tries to throw a grenade and it blows up in their face!

He "sometimes spend hours looking through gay photos on the sex board"  ;D

And he spends his time doing image searches on me.  Yikes!  This is not flattering... it's creepy... and sad. :'(