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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #75 on: July 18, 2025, 10:36:04 PM »
You are definitely entitled to your opinion. And I agree being gay is not something bad. But he is only lying about it if he is gay and when asked on record about this, he has denied it. I am not aware of this ever happening, are you?

He cannot answer a question that isn't asked.  What he did was oppose gay marriage and try and pretend that he is heterosexual with a beard and two kids.  The only thing he didn't do was get caught in a hotel like Andrew Gillum.

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2025, 07:44:57 AM »
What happened to Benny B and whatever his other alias was?

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #77 on: July 21, 2025, 04:59:33 AM »
Obama’s Real Legacy Comes into Focus
American Thinker ^ | J.B. Shurk
Posted on 7/21/2025, 7:02:02 AM by RoosterRedux

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard set off fireworks on Friday when she accused former president Barack Obama of organizing a coup d’état against his successor. Summarizing the damning evidence in her possession, Gabbard concluded, “These documents detail a treasonous conspiracy by officials at the highest levels of the Obama White House to subvert the will of the American people.”

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Gabbard just dropped the “Mother of All Bombs” on Obama’s White House syndicate...

General Michael Flynn, President Trump’s short-lived National Security Advisor, assessed the situation succinctly: “This is surreal.” As a target of the Deep State’s treacherous lawfare operations, General Flynn views the workings in Washington, D.C., with supreme clarity: “This is why [Gabbard] was attacked so relentlessly over the past few weeks and months. They knew if there were anyone with the guts to investigate the attempted coup, it would be her.” Obama loyalists in the Intelligence Community and Obama’s propaganda allies in the corporate news media succeeded in removing General Flynn from his NSA position at the beginning of Trump’s first term. Perhaps learning from Flynn’s experience, Gabbard has worked quickly to expose the conspirators before they could take her out, too.

Who exactly formed this conspiracy to overturn the 2016 election and topple President Trump’s administration?

...

Ezra Cohen, an Intelligence official who has served President Trump in various positions, highlighted the list of principals who conspired to blame Hillary Clinton’s 2016 election loss on the Russians. In a pivotal National Security Council meeting chaired by Susan Rice, attendees included John Brennan, James Clapper, Andrew McCabe, John Kerry, Loretta Lynch, Victoria Nuland, Mary McCord, Avril Haines, Lisa Monaco, Ben Rhodes, and Maher Bitar (an Obama official who immediately went to work for liar Adam Schiff). That’s a “Who’s Who” list of Russia Hoax plotters.

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #78 on: July 21, 2025, 04:00:58 PM »
He cannot answer a question that isn't asked.  What he did was oppose gay marriage and try and pretend that he is heterosexual with a beard and two kids.  The only thing he didn't do was get caught in a hotel like Andrew Gillum.

You are entitled to believe President Obama is pretending to be heterosexual. However, believing something about someone does not make it a fact. Not all gay folks support same sex marriage. This does not make them liars.
 
People have been known to change their opinions for a variety of reasons.
 
In 2004 when Barack Obama said he opposed same sex marriage; he was a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Rev. Jeremiah Wright, pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago did not support same sex marriage. In 2008 Barack and Michele left the Trinity United Church of Christ. They said, "Our relations with Trinity have been strained by the divisive statements of Reverend Wright, which sharply conflict with our own views".

In 2012 President Obama said, "I think same-sex couples should be able to get married." His announcement made him the first sitting US president to support marriage equality.

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #79 on: July 21, 2025, 08:09:49 PM »
You are entitled to believe President Obama is pretending to be heterosexual. However, believing something about someone does not make it a fact. Not all gay folks support same sex marriage. This does not make them liars.
 
People have been known to change their opinions for a variety of reasons.
 
In 2004 when Barack Obama said he opposed same sex marriage; he was a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Rev. Jeremiah Wright, pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago did not support same sex marriage. In 2008 Barack and Michele left the Trinity United Church of Christ. They said, "Our relations with Trinity have been strained by the divisive statements of Reverend Wright, which sharply conflict with our own views".

In 2012 President Obama said, "I think same-sex couples should be able to get married." His announcement made him the first sitting US president to support marriage equality.

Yeah I'm sure plenty of straight men write about homosexual fantasies and get accused of having sex with another man. 

Obama lied about supporting traditional marriage.  He filled out a questionnaire in Chicago before he was a national figure that confirmed he supported gay marriage.  And the only reason he had an epiphany was his wealthy gay donors threatened to withhold money unless he got serious about gay rights.  He's a total fraud.

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« Reply #80 on: July 21, 2025, 08:31:53 PM »
Yeah I'm sure plenty of straight men write about homosexual fantasies and get accused of having sex with another man. 

Obama lied about supporting traditional marriage.  He filled out a questionnaire in Chicago before he was a national figure that confirmed he supported gay marriage. And the only reason he had an epiphany was his wealthy gay donors threatened to withhold money unless he got serious about gay rights.  He's a total fraud.

And you know all this crap about Barack Obama is absolutely correct because...   Oh yeah, and this must be true because... and the only reason he had an epiphany was his wealthy gay donors threatened to withhold money unless he got serious about gay rights.

Almost everyone has sexual fantasies they never act on, including homosexual ones. Do you know who the accuser(s) was, why they made the accusation, and if it based on known facts. 

As I said before, people are known to change or even reverse their opinions and beliefs multiple times throughout their life, with the exception of folks who are totally close minded.




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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #81 on: July 21, 2025, 09:03:56 PM »
And you know all this crap about Barack Obama is absolutely correct because...   Oh yeah, and this must be true because... and the only reason he had an epiphany was his wealthy gay donors threatened to withhold money unless he got serious about gay rights.

Almost everyone has sexual fantasies they never act on, including homosexual ones. Do you know who the accuser(s) was, why they made the accusation, and if it based on known facts. 

As I said before, people are known to change or even reverse their opinions and beliefs multiple times throughout their life, with the exception of folks who are totally close minded.

Yes I know this crap is correct, because unlike you I don't live in a bubble. 

He didn't change his mind.  He simply lied. 

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #82 on: July 22, 2025, 06:56:29 PM »
Yes I know this crap is correct, because unlike you I don't live in a bubble. 

He didn't change his mind.  He simply lied.

One thing is for sure, I do not live in your bubble nor would I want to.

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #83 on: July 22, 2025, 07:57:00 PM »
One thing is for sure, I do not live in your bubble nor would I want to.

No, your projection doesn't work. 

Here is what happens when you don't live in a bubble and don't have confirmation bias.  You read an article providing proof that Obama lied about his support for traditional marriage:

Obama backed same-sex marriage in 1996
By BEN SMITH 01/13/2009

A document has emerged suggesting that Obama had taken more public, liberal stands in the past than had been revealed in the digging of reporters and opposition researchers over two years of campaigning, the latest of several pointing to a rightward shift as he moved into national politics.

In a 1996 questionnaire filled out for a Chicago gay and lesbian newspaper, then called Outlines, Obama came out clearly in favor of same-sex marriage, which he has opposed on the public record throughout his short career in national politics.

“I favor legalizing same-sex marriages,and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages,” Obama wrote in the typed, signed, statement.

There was no use of “civil unions,” and "no compromise whatsoever," the Windy City Times story today notes.

On another questionnaire the same year, Obama said he would support a resolution in support of same-sex marriage.

The editor of the Windy City Times, a successor of Outlines, Tracy Baim, said she hadn't deliberately held onto the news until after Obama's election. Baim, who had been the editor of Outlines at the time, said that just before the election, she ran across the old Outline story saying Obama backed same-sex marriage, but only dug his forgotten questionaire out of an old box this week, having assumed that she'd lost it.

Obama now says he opposes same-sex marriage, though he backs giving gays and lesbians a parallel package of marriage-like rights, and opposes a federal ban on same-sex marriage.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2009/01/obama-backed-same-sex-marriage-in-1996-015306

And proof that Obama's gay marriage epiphany was the result of pressure from his large gay donors:

There was, of course, cold politics behind it. One in six of Obama's fundraising bundlers is gay, and he needs their money. Wall Street has not backed him financially this year the way it did in 2008. A few Jewish donors have held back over Israel. And when Obama announced recently that he would not issue an executive order barring antigay discrimination for federal contractors, the gay donors all but threatened to leave him high and dry. The unity and intensity of the gay power brokers—absent in the defensive crouch of the Clinton years—proved that FDR's maxim still applied: "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it."

Andrew Sullivan on Barack Obama's Gay Marriage Evolution
Published May 13, 2012
https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-sullivan-barack-obamas-gay-marriage-evolution-65067

Step outside your bubble so you can become a more informed citizen. 

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« Reply #84 on: July 23, 2025, 01:00:44 PM »
No, your projection doesn't work. 

Here is what happens when you don't live in a bubble and don't have confirmation bias.  You read an article providing proof that Obama lied about his support for traditional marriage:

Obama backed same-sex marriage in 1996
By BEN SMITH 01/13/2009

A document has emerged suggesting that Obama had taken more public, liberal stands in the past than had been revealed in the digging of reporters and opposition researchers over two years of campaigning, the latest of several pointing to a rightward shift as he moved into national politics.

In a 1996 questionnaire filled out for a Chicago gay and lesbian newspaper, then called Outlines, Obama came out clearly in favor of same-sex marriage, which he has opposed on the public record throughout his short career in national politics.

“I favor legalizing same-sex marriages,and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages,” Obama wrote in the typed, signed, statement.

There was no use of “civil unions,” and "no compromise whatsoever," the Windy City Times story today notes.

On another questionnaire the same year, Obama said he would support a resolution in support of same-sex marriage.

The editor of the Windy City Times, a successor of Outlines, Tracy Baim, said she hadn't deliberately held onto the news until after Obama's election. Baim, who had been the editor of Outlines at the time, said that just before the election, she ran across the old Outline story saying Obama backed same-sex marriage, but only dug his forgotten questionaire out of an old box this week, having assumed that she'd lost it.

Obama now says he opposes same-sex marriage, though he backs giving gays and lesbians a parallel package of marriage-like rights, and opposes a federal ban on same-sex marriage.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2009/01/obama-backed-same-sex-marriage-in-1996-015306

And proof that Obama's gay marriage epiphany was the result of pressure from his large gay donors:

There was, of course, cold politics behind it. One in six of Obama's fundraising bundlers is gay, and he needs their money. Wall Street has not backed him financially this year the way it did in 2008. A few Jewish donors have held back over Israel. And when Obama announced recently that he would not issue an executive order barring antigay discrimination for federal contractors, the gay donors all but threatened to leave him high and dry. The unity and intensity of the gay power brokers—absent in the defensive crouch of the Clinton years—proved that FDR's maxim still applied: "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it."

Andrew Sullivan on Barack Obama's Gay Marriage Evolution
Published May 13, 2012
https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-sullivan-barack-obamas-gay-marriage-evolution-65067

Step outside your bubble so you can become a more informed citizen.

And you know all this crap about Barack Obama is absolutely correct because...   Oh yeah, and this must be true because... and the only reason he had an epiphany was his wealthy gay donors threatened to withhold money unless he got serious about gay rights.

Almost everyone has sexual fantasies they never act on, including homosexual ones. Do you know who the accuser(s) was, why they made the accusation, and if it based on known facts. 

As I said before, people are known to change or even reverse their opinions and beliefs multiple times throughout their life, with the exception of folks who are totally close minded.

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #85 on: July 23, 2025, 02:33:50 PM »


He didn't change his mind.  He always supported gay marriage and just lied about it.  Just like he has been lying about his own sexual identity. 

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« Reply #86 on: July 23, 2025, 09:10:45 PM »
He didn't change his mind. He always supported gay marriage and just lied about it. Just like he has been lying about his own sexual orientation.

Oh, so you somehow know what Obama's thoughts are. Amazing! I had no idea that you are a psychic mind reader.

Straight folks have been known to change their minds about gay marriage. Does this mean they are also lying about their sexual orientation?

You previously posted this, "and the only reason he had an epiphany was his wealthy gay donors threatened to withhold money unless he got serious about gay rights." If as you say, Obama always supported gay marriage, then he did not have "an epiphany" to support it in order to appease his wealth gay donors.

You previously posted this,
Obama is gay IMO.  Not an insult.  Not a bad thing.  But I think he's gay.  The only problem I have with him being gay is lying about it.

If being gay in your opinion is not a bad thing then why does it make a difference to you whether Obama is or isn't gay? It appears that you are being disingenuous.

BTW, various studies suggest that somewhere between 5% and 9% of men who identify as heterosexual have had same-sex sexual encounters.

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #87 on: July 24, 2025, 01:05:29 AM »
Oh, so you somehow know what Obama's thoughts are. Amazing! I had no idea that you are a psychic mind reader.

Straight folks have been known to change their minds about gay marriage. Does this mean they are also lying about their sexual orientation?

You previously posted this, "and the only reason he had an epiphany was his wealthy gay donors threatened to withhold money unless he got serious about gay rights." If as you say, Obama always supported gay marriage, then he did not have "an epiphany" to support it in order to appease his wealth gay donors.

You previously posted this,
If being gay in your opinion is not a bad thing then why does it make a difference to you whether Obama is or isn't gay? It appears that you are being disingenuous.

BTW, various studies suggest that somewhere between 5% and 9% of men who identify as heterosexual have had same-sex sexual encounters.

Not a mind reader.  I just know how to read English. 

I'm not talking about straight folks.  I'm talking about Obama.  The man who lied about support for traditional marriage (as I already showed you).  The man who allegedly had a sexual relationship with a man (Larry Sinclair).  The man who wrote about fantasizing about sex with other men.  He's gay.  It's not complicated.

You are having trouble comprehending.  You quoted me saying I don't have a problem with him being gay, I have a problem with him lying about it, then question why I have a problem with him being gay.  The issue is integrity.  Again, not complicated. 

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #88 on: July 24, 2025, 02:16:51 PM »
Not a mind reader.  I just know how to read English. 

I'm not talking about straight folks.  I'm talking about Obama.  The man who lied about support for traditional marriage (as I already showed you).  The man who allegedly had a sexual relationship with a man (Larry Sinclair).  The man who wrote about fantasizing about sex with other men.  He's gay.  It's not complicated.

You are having trouble comprehending.  You quoted me saying I don't have a problem with him being gay, I have a problem with him lying about it, then question why I have a problem with him being gay.  The issue is integrity.  Again, not complicated.

Oh, I get it, you dislike people who lie. I guess then this means you believe Trump never lies.  ::) ::) ::)

If you do not a problem with Obama possibly having gay tendencies, why did you mention this as an example of what you believe he lied about? Why not the supposed lies about Obamacare, such as, when he told the American Medical Assn. in 2009. “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your healthcare plan, you’ll be able to keep your healthcare plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

Lies about sexual orientations primarily have an impact on immediate family and intimate friends, while lying about healthcare affects millions of people. I think most folks would see this as a more serious (bigger) lie.

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #89 on: July 24, 2025, 02:47:46 PM »
Oh, I get it, you dislike people who lie. I guess then this means you believe Trump never lies.  ::) ::) ::)

If you do not a problem with Obama possibly having gay tendencies, why did you mention this as an example of what you believe he lied about? Why not the supposed lies about Obamacare, such as, when he told the American Medical Assn. in 2009. “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your healthcare plan, you’ll be able to keep your healthcare plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

Lies about sexual orientations primarily have an impact on immediate family and intimate friends, while lying about healthcare affects millions of people. I think most folks would see this as a more serious (bigger) lie.

This has nothing to do with Trump, but you have Trump Derangement Syndrome, so I get it.

I've talked many times about the Obamacare mandate and the "if you like your doctor" lies. But that has nothing to do with Obama lying about his sexual orientation.  Why do you keep trying to change the subject? 

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #90 on: July 24, 2025, 03:46:33 PM »
This has nothing to do with Trump, but you have Trump Derangement Syndrome, so I get it.

I've talked many times about the Obamacare mandate and the "if you like your doctor" lies. But that has nothing to do with Obama lying about his sexual orientation.  Why do you keep trying to change the subject?

It has everything to do with disliking people who lie and you skirting the fact that your real issue is what they lie about and not just that they lie. Obviously, you care less that Obama lied about Obamacare than that he may have lied about his sexual orientation.  It reeks of homophobia.

Trump derangement syndrome has nothing to do with this. It appears that it is you who is trying to change the subject.

And you accuse me of living in a bubble.  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #91 on: July 24, 2025, 03:51:45 PM »
It has everything to do with disliking people who lie and you skirting the fact that your real issue is what they lie about and not just that they lie. Obviously, you care less that Obama lied about Obamacare than that he may have lied about his sexual orientation.  It reeks of homophobia.

Trump derangement syndrome has nothing to do with this. It appears that it is you who is trying to change the subject.

And you accuse me of living in a bubble.  ::) ::) ::)

No, it's not homphobia to express concern about Obama lying about his sexual orientation and his faux opposition to gay marriage.  Typical ad hominem response. 

Yes, you live in a bubble. 

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #92 on: July 24, 2025, 04:19:14 PM »
No, it's not homphobia to express concern about Obama lying about his sexual orientation and his faux opposition to gay marriage. 


quite so
just like it is not trumpohobic to express concern about Mr Trumps battle with truth and facts
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« Reply #93 on: July 24, 2025, 04:23:51 PM »
quite so
just like it is not trumpohobic to express concern about Mr Trumps battle with truth and facts

If by "trumpohobic" you mean Trump Derangement Syndrome, then it depends.  If you constantly bring up Trump to deflect from the actual person or issue being discussed, then you might be suffering from TDS. 

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #94 on: July 25, 2025, 04:59:46 AM »
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« Reply #95 on: July 25, 2025, 09:01:11 AM »
Yeah I'm sure plenty of straight men write about homosexual fantasies and get accused of having sex with another man. 

Obama lied about supporting traditional marriage.  He filled out a questionnaire in Chicago before he was a national figure that confirmed he supported gay marriage.  And the only reason he had an epiphany was his wealthy gay donors threatened to withhold money unless he got serious about gay rights.  He's a total fraud.

Supporting gay rights does not make a person gay anymore than supporting churches makes a person a Christian.


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« Reply #96 on: July 25, 2025, 09:04:09 AM »
He didn't change his mind.  He always supported gay marriage and just lied about it.  Just like he has been lying about his own sexual identity.

I am sure you have proof of his sexuality identity that you can share with everyone and put this rumor rest.

Hell, your orange hero lies about everything, whether he supports it or not.  Tell us how that affects your opinion about him now.   ::)

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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #97 on: July 25, 2025, 01:15:12 PM »
Supporting gay rights does not make a person gay anymore than supporting churches makes a person a Christian.

I didn't say supporting gay rights makes a person gay.  But thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #98 on: July 25, 2025, 01:23:43 PM »
I am sure you have proof of his sexuality identity that you can share with everyone and put this rumor rest.

Hell, your orange hero lies about everything, whether he supports it or not.  Tell us how that affects your opinion about him now.   ::)

This thread is about Obama, not Trump.

I already pointed out the proof showing Obama lied about his sexual identity, which includes Larry Sinclair and Obama's own words.

I believe Larry Sinclair.

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I believe Obama's own words.

“In regard to homosexuality, I must say that I believe this is an attempt to remove oneself from the present, a refusal perhaps to perpetuate the endless farce of earthly life,” Obama, then 21, wrote in November 1982. ”You see, I make love to men daily, but in the imagination.”

Obama's uncovered love letter to ex-girlfriend: 'I make love to men daily, but in the imagination'
by JACKSON WALKER | The National DeskWed, August 16th 2023
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Re: Who Is Barack Obama?
« Reply #99 on: July 25, 2025, 01:24:24 PM »



If he's queer - He's a dirty Shit Stabber - Not fit to be in any job with power
If he's a queer his minds not wired 100% correctly.