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A county by county breakdown of the 2008 presidential elections show that once again most counties went Republican (red counties voted for McCain, blue for Obama).


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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 05:58:32 PM »
There must be a LOT of people in those small patches of blue

btw - how much of that map is actually uninhabited land

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 06:00:34 PM »
The cities decide the elections. Always have.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 06:05:45 PM »
Ron, nice to have you stop by, but pull yourself together >:(

There are like 4 people living in some huge rural country, whereas cities are densly populated.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 06:07:40 PM »
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There are like 4 people living in some huge rural country, whereas cities are densly populated.


Correct - they are, the cities are populated, who always need some sort of services from the government, hence - aka Democratic. 

But I found the map very interesting, as there are also a number of cities and counties which are heavily populated that are more Republican too.


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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2008, 06:08:19 PM »
There must be a LOT of people in those small patches of blue

btw - how much of that map is actually uninhabited land

{LOL} Most of it.  ;D
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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 06:09:56 PM »


Correct - they are, the cities are populated, who always need some sort of services from the government, hence - aka Democratic

But I found the map very interesting, as there are also a number of cities and counties which are heavily populated that are more Republican too.



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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 06:12:50 PM »
Ron,

Has anyone called you a homo today? :)

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 06:19:09 PM »
I'd like to see a demo map with age groups.

There I fear that the situation may be pretty critical for the Republicans.
There is a very real possibility that Democrats will continue to make inroads into the inner parts of USA.
Unless the Republicans can start to attract young voters again.
It used to be that 'liberal' was something derogatory to call a Democrat.
And Democrats were considered weak pussies. Somehow they got away from that image.
The Democrats have been very successful in painting Republicans as the old and out of touch party.
The Republicans don't help themselves either when using words like 'conservative' to describe themselves.
That oozes old people.
It helps even less when a 72 year old is elected as a candidate.
In touch with the young voter base?
I don't think so.
GOP needs to act fast and hard to not be wiped out.   
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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 06:21:05 PM »
Very interesting.  

Also, in terms of the numer of states each candidate won, Obama won 28 + DC and McCain won 22.  http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/full/#val=P

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 06:24:14 PM »
Thats really weird it looks like Harris county in Texas went democrat, this is where I live and i find that really strange although if you go intown in certain areas they where heavily for obama.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2008, 06:25:43 PM »
I'd like to see a demo map with age groups.

There I fear that the situation may be pretty critical for the Republicans.
There is a very real possibility that Democrats will continue to make inroads into the inner parts of USA.
Unless the Republicans can start to attract young voters again.
It used to be that 'liberal' was something derogatory to call a Democrat.
And Democrats were considered weak pussies. Somehow they got away from that image.
The Democrats have been very successful in painting Republicans as the old and out of touch party.
The Republicans don't help themselves either when using words like 'conservative' to describe themselves.
That oozes old people.
It helps even less when a 72 year old is elected as a candidate.
In touch with the young voter base?
I don't think so.
GOP needs to act fast and hard to not be wiped out.   

McCain failed massivly with young voters. CNN exit polls say the only age group he won was over 65 :-\

It wasn't just his age, it was that he "acted" old. Much of his rhetoric was old school talk. Plus to the Gen X crowd not being able to send an email is akin to not being able to make a phone call. It baffles me why he didn't just lie. Not like anyone was going to tape him sending an email.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 06:48:00 PM »
A county by county breakdown of the 2008 presidential elections show that once again most counties went Republican (red counties voted for McCain, blue for Obama).



he won the popular vote and ofcourse the electoral vote....big masses of land doesnt mean shit

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 07:43:48 PM »
he won the popular vote and ofcourse the electoral vote....big masses of land doesnt mean shit
it does mean shit.
There are other elections other than the presidential too.
The problem for the Republicans are that the Democrats may actually be starting to contesting in areas where it previously never even wasn't close.
And if they are contesting because they are getting the younger voting generation, it's really bad news for the Republicans.
That means that the support for the Democrats will only get bigger for every day - literally - and the support for the Republicans will die off.
So in a few years these areas may be flooded with Democratic DA's, mayors, congressmen, school boards, city councils.
  That's a big concern for GOP.
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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2008, 07:46:10 PM »
Ok so if libs completely destroy everywhere else looks like I'm headed to OKLAHOMA!!!!  (sigh)

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2008, 07:49:03 PM »
You know what's *really* interesting?

Almost 30 of the 50 states have DEMOCRATS as senators.  58 seats, maybe?

Red states choose DEM leadership, very strange.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 07:51:27 PM »
You know what's *really* interesting?

Almost 30 of the 50 states have DEMOCRATS as senators.  58 seats, maybe?

Red states choose DEM leadership, very strange.

Dems are better politicians.  They play the game better and have been since at LEAST 94.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 07:58:35 PM »
Dems are better politicians.  They play the game better and have been since at LEAST 94.

Bush owned the white house for 8 years and congress for 6.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2008, 07:59:32 PM »
Dems dont resign when they are caught cheating on their wives or smoking crack or pole or accepting bribes. rebulicans typically do.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2008, 07:59:37 PM »
it does mean shit.
There are other elections other than the presidential too.
The problem for the Republicans are that the Democrats may actually be starting to contesting in areas where it previously never even wasn't close.
And if they are contesting because they are getting the younger voting generation, it's really bad news for the Republicans.
That means that the support for the Democrats will only get bigger for every day - literally - and the support for the Republicans will die off.
So in a few years these areas may be flooded with Democratic DA's, mayors, congressmen, school boards, city councils.
  That's a big concern for GOP.

thank you, i never knew that  ::)

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2008, 08:02:08 PM »
it does mean shit.
There are other elections other than the presidential too.
The problem for the Republicans are that the Democrats may actually be starting to contesting in areas where it previously never even wasn't close.
And if they are contesting because they are getting the younger voting generation, it's really bad news for the Republicans.
That means that the support for the Democrats will only get bigger for every day - literally - and the support for the Republicans will die off.
So in a few years these areas may be flooded with Democratic DA's, mayors, congressmen, school boards, city councils.
  That's a big concern for GOP.

Yeah but you forget that these young people grow up and start paying taxes and having kids then start going WTF and start moving towards the right.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2008, 08:09:00 PM »
Dems dont resign when they are caught cheating on their wives or smoking crack or pole or accepting bribes. rebulicans typically do.

such as?

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2008, 08:09:09 PM »
Dems dont resign when they are caught cheating on their wives or smoking crack or pole or accepting bribes. rebulicans typically do.

Repub Senators Larry Craig and David Vitter didn't quit after their sex scandals.

Repub Senator Ted Stevens was convicted of a FELONY and chose to run for re-election.

What examples do you have of repubs that HAVE resigned lately?

Or, what 3 high-profile DEM senators have been busted in the last 2 years?

Kinda punches holes in your argument dude.

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2008, 08:15:09 PM »
Repub Senators Larry Craig and David Vitter didn't quit after their sex scandals.

Repub Senator Ted Stevens was convicted of a FELONY and chose to run for re-election.

What examples do you have of repubs that HAVE resigned lately?

Or, what 3 high-profile DEM senators have been busted in the last 2 years?

Kinda punches holes in your argument dude.

could say Spitzer and McGreevy but they both resigned and Spitzer is not going to be charged with any crime and although McGreevy is a self-proclaimed "gay american"  I'm pretty sure that's still not a crime

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Re: America is still conservative regarding areas, except in big cities
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2008, 08:22:51 PM »
Dems dont resign when they are caught cheating on their wives or smoking crack or pole or accepting bribes. rebulicans typically do.

In all fairness, the governors of New York and New Jersey did resign, along with the mayor of Detroit (but not without a fight).  And John Edwards had already lost the primary when his misdeeds came to light, so he couldn't really resign from anything.

(I was being sarcastic.)      

On the other hand, Rep. William Jefferson didn't resign, nor did Rep. Tim Mahoney, the mayor of L.A., or the mayor of S.F.  
 
We're about due for a mayor or governor to screw up pretty badly.