Congratulations George W Bush!!!

[shootfighter1]

The other scary part is this administration's programs are setting long term spending deficits.  When he says "I will cut the deficit in half in 4 years", he means his yearly budget deficits, not the national deficit, which increases every year.  The debt interest paid as a portion of GDP also increases.  Many people are confused with the terms.  The Obama administration is wonderful with choosing correct wording and eminating a good image.  If Obama is not re-elected in 4 years, much of this spending will still be in effect unless somehow reversed and our taxes will go up or our $ devalued.

 I admire the scope of Change this administration is attempting but I would rather they concentrated on the financial mess 1st and then address other topics.  When you try to solve too many problems at once, there are just too much that can be missed and often too much $ wasted.  If you have a bloated gov, you will have bloated taxation policies eventually.  You must pay the piper.

[California Muscle]

So fucking what? What did they do to prevent 9/11 while being told that even a month before hand by top officials that something like that would happen very soon?

The thing that just kills me: We received intelligence stating that several Arab men were enrolled in flight schools across the country - and they weren't concerned about learning take-off or landing procedures!! 

And, yes, these were the very same individuals who went on, completely untracked by anyone, to hijack the planes on 9-11.

[bodybuildermdpitt]

It is nice to hear that there is still some independent thought left in this country. Bush was awful and Obama is sounding even worse. Taxing bonuses / salary makes no sense, there are so many ways to get out of paying taxes. For example, buying more property, gifting money,  moving, donations, "office expenses," and my favorite housing interest rates. I am a firm believer of personal responsibility. If you took a 600,000 dollar loan with a 60,000 a year salary, you deserve to be homeless. This is what irks me the most, I am paying for other people's incompetence. The funny thing is that although my tax rate is going up, there is no way in hell the government is going to get a cent of it. For the first time, I am going to lease my cars for my practice, buy more office furniture, start taking my staff out for lunch everyday, gift my children and my wife, more importantly I am going to start donating to charity for the first time in a while (most likely habit for humanity). People do need help in this economy, but I want to do it on my own terms and not those imposed by the government. I have already worked it out with my accoutant. To this day, I still don't understand how people are so easily manipulated by rhetoric and chants. Maybe it is incompetance or maybe social darwinsim at work.  

[Option D]

you forgot kept us safe for 6.5 years following 9/11.

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hilarious

[calfzilla]

anthrax attacks happened after 911, ya know

Yeah weak ass anthrax attack that I don't even think killed anybody.     Self owning by the terrorists. 

[Man of Steel]

I'd like to see a list of how those problems will be fixed.

[Mons Venus]

you forgot kept us safe for 6.5 years following 9/11.

How about BEFORE 9/11 ? 

[Hugo Chavez]

Yeah weak ass anthrax attack that I don't even think killed anybody.     Self owning by the terrorists. 

5 people died.  It wasn't the terrorists.  It was a domestic source.  Part of the fear campaign imo.

[George Whorewell]

A rouge scientist nutjob who eventually killed himself. Not exactly politically motivated. By definition terrorism is politically motivated- So yes, Bush did keep us safe after 911 while Europe was bombed numerous times- Spain, England, etc. If by scare tactics you mean reality, yes we are very scared.

I find it ironic that someone from Europe is relating the Bush admin's scare tactics while Europe is being taken over by radical Islam, has suffered several terrorist attacks since 911 and rather than combat an obvious problem the cowards in Europe are bending to the will of terrorists and their supporters. Instead of forcing the roaches colonizing your continent to assimilate to European traditions, you sissy's are walking on egg shells to make them feel welcome. Meanwhile, nothing has happened here in almost 8 years. Maybe Europe should take stock in American "fear tactics" rather than living in fantasy land.

[Deicide]

A rouge scientist nutjob who eventually killed himself. Not exactly politically motivated. By definition terrorism is politically motivated- So yes, Bush did keep us safe after 911 while Europe was bombed numerous times- Spain, England, etc. If by scare tactics you mean reality, yes we are very scared.

I find it ironic that someone from Europe is relating the Bush admin's scare tactics while Europe is being taken over by radical Islam, has suffered several terrorist attacks since 911 and rather than combat an obvious problem the cowards in Europe are bending to the will of terrorists and their supporters. Instead of forcing the roaches colonizing your continent to assimilate to European traditions, you sissy's are walking on egg shells to make them feel welcome. Meanwhile, nothing has happened here in almost 8 years. Maybe Europe should take stock in American "fear tactics" rather than living in fantasy land.

Maybe we should all stop occupying other peoples' land and then they would turn on each other and leave us alone.

[wild willie]

liberals need to remember that Nobama made everyone a promise that he was going to straighten the US economy out. All I have seen in that last 60 plus days is spend spemd spend and point the fingure at the Bush administration.

When will someone tell Nobama that he is the current president and that the former president has left the building. Nobama needs to take his job seriously and quit worrying about his brackets and his trips to LA and Chi town and get his butt planted in DC. I am tired of hearing what a great communicator he is.

IS HE WILLING TO DO WHAT HE HAS PREACHED ABOUT FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF? The guy just loves the rhetoric but won't shake a leg and het his butt moving forward. He needs to quit mentioning what the previous administration did to screw up the economy.

[Decker]

liberals need to remember that Nobama made everyone a promise that he was going to straighten the US economy out. All I have seen in that last 60 plus days is spend spemd spend and point the fingure at the Bush administration.

When will someone tell Nobama that he is the current president and that the former president has left the building. Nobama needs to take his job seriously and quit worrying about his brackets and his trips to LA and Chi town and get his butt planted in DC. I am tired of hearing what a great communicator he is.

IS HE WILLING TO DO WHAT HE HAS PREACHED ABOUT FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF? The guy just loves the rhetoric but won't shake a leg and het his butt moving forward. He needs to quit mentioning what the previous administration did to screw up the economy.

I don't agree.  Bush created historic levels of bad debt.  Debt for shitty reasons - hundreds of billions in Iraq and 4+ trillion in tax cuts.  Obama is creating good debt - rebuilding infrastructure, putting people to work, fixing Bush's mess.

We have to know how we got here to know where we are going.  Pretending that the last 8 years aren't worth referencing is not going to cut it.

[wild willie]

give nobama another year and he will make Bush look good.......you won't complain as much about the Bush administration when you see what Geithner and company are going to foil up.

[wild willie]

The thing I love about Geithner is that he has enough money to pay his taxes but his ego is such that he feels the rules don't apply to him. I would gain some respect for Barack if he would send Geithner packing.

[Deicide]

give nobama another year and he will make Bush look good.......you won't complain as much about the Bush administration when you see what Geithner and company are going to foil up.

Are you suggesting Bush did a good job?!

[George Whorewell]

Good point Decide! Spain has been occupying Palestine, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Somalia for years now. They got what they deserved! 

Lets not forget those damned imperial Indians! If only they would give all of India over to Pakistan, there would be no more terrorism!

Countries with majority Muslim populations like Indonesia should also stop occupying Muslim territories!

Canada is also known for its warmongering imperialism. If only they would get out of the middle east, things would be better in the world! What middle eastern country was Canada occupying again?

Decide get with the program. Occupation, no occupation- Muslims by and large in the world are terrorists or support terrorists. The Muslim religion supports terrorism. George W Bush didn't create terrorism- Islam created terrorism. Hope this helps-

[Deicide]

Good point Decide! Spain has been occupying Palestine, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Somalia for years now. They got what they deserved! 

Lets not forget those damned imperial Indians! If only they would give all of India over to Pakistan, there would be no more terrorism!

Countries with majority Muslim populations like Indonesia should also stop occupying Muslim territories!

Canada is also known for its warmongering imperialism. If only they would get out of the middle east, things would be better in the world! What middle eastern country was Canada occupying again?

Decide get with the program. Occupation, no occupation- Muslims by and large in the world are terrorists or support terrorists. The Muslim religion supports terrorism. George W Bush didn't create terrorism- Islam created terrorism. Hope this helps-

Sudan, which is one of the most stringently Islamic countries in the world, has minimal levels of terrorism and no suicide bombing. There is no doubt that Islam is irrational but if you listen to say, the original grievances of Osama, occupation was top on the list. Spain was involved in the Iraq war and Canada is in Afghanistan. You can do this country by country. Listen to an expert, Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit.

You are right though, American imperialism is far older than G.W.

[shootfighter1]

I think the US have overstepped its bounds on several occasions. 

As far as Muslims, many of them come to European countries (and North America) and expect their rules, customs and laws to be respected.  Many of them create little Arabic communities within the country without trying to assimilate or become immersed in the dominant culture of the country.  To me, that is just as wrong.

[a_joker10]

Sudan, which is one of the most stringently Islamic countries in the world, has minimal levels of terrorism and no suicide bombing. There is no doubt that Islam is irrational but if you listen to say, the original grievances of Osama, occupation was top on the list. Spain was involved in the Iraq war and Canada is in Afghanistan. You can do this country by country. Listen to an expert, Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit.

You are right though, American imperialism is far older than G.W.

Sudan, no terrorism.

Except for those pesky death squads.

http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article3498

[Deicide]

I think the US have overstepped its bounds on several occasions. 

As far as Muslims, many of them come to European countries (and North America) and expect their rules, customs and laws to be respected.  Many of them create little Arabic communities within the country without trying to assimilate or become immersed in the dominant culture of the country.  To me, that is just as wrong.

Sure, many do. If you know anything about my reputation here, I am not saying anything good about Islam.  But one should read and learn history and listen to people who actually know about these things.

[headhuntersix]

U realize Scheuer is in no way a guy who would agree with u...he believes the rags are a major threat. I love these videos...they take excerpts from the guy and paint a very different picture of what this guy thinks. He said we should have killed Bin Laden in the 90's. The conventional US military didn't want to take the risk. Clinton did, at time want to waste him, but eventually got side tracked. We had Bin laden time and time again, but the morons at State along with apointee's at DOD and some military folks, did not allow our SOF guys to do what they get paid to do. I can't blame Bill anymore, anything I've read says he wanted the guy dead.




Militias backed by the Sudanese government have forced roughly a million people from their homes in the western part of the country. In the North-South conflict that wracked Sudan for 20 years, the Muslim government's favored tool was genocide, directed against the Christian and animist south. The government is conducting genocide again, giving air cover and other support to Arab militias that are cleansing black Sufi Muslims from the western province of Darfur. The North-South war killed 2 million; at least 10,000 have died already in Darfur; and, absent immediate relief, hundreds of thousands more could die.....


Admit ur last post was ridiculous please.

[Deicide]

U realize Scheuer is in no way a guy who would agree with u...he believes the rags are a major threat. I love these videos...they take excerpts from the guy and paint a very different picture of what this guy thinks. He said we should have killed Bin Laden in the 90's. The conventional US military didn't want to take the risk. Clinton did, at time want to waste him, but eventually got side tracked. We had Bin laden time and time again, but the morons at State along with apointee's at DOD and some military folks, did not allow our SOF guys to do what they get paid to do. I can't blame Bill anymore, anything I've read says he wanted the guy dead.

I have read everything he has written and heard most of what he has said. Yes, he is very nationalistic BUT he also says that American foreign policy is fucked up and only hinders our cause which was the part I was highlighting.

Militias backed by the Sudanese government have forced roughly a million people from their homes in the western part of the country. In the North-South conflict that wracked Sudan for 20 years, the Muslim government's favored tool was genocide, directed against the Christian and animist south. The government is conducting genocide again, giving air cover and other support to Arab militias that are cleansing black Sufi Muslims from the western province of Darfur. The North-South war killed 2 million; at least 10,000 have died already in Darfur; and, absent immediate relief, hundreds of thousands more could die.....

Not our business and besides we won't go there as our Chinese masters won't let us.

Admit ur last post was ridiculous please.

Umm, no.

[headhuntersix]

Sudan, which is one of the most stringently Islamic countries in the world, has minimal levels of terrorism and no suicide bombing......



Yeah ok u really know what the hell ur talking about right.

[Deicide]

Sudan, which is one of the most stringently Islamic countries in the world, has minimal levels of terrorism and no suicide bombing......



Yeah ok u really know what the hell ur talking about right.

I back it up with facts.

If Islamic fundamentalism were the pivotal factor, then we should see some of the largest Islamic fundamentalist countries in the world, like Iran, which has 70 million people—three times the population of Iraq and three times the population of Saudi Arabia—with some of the most active groups in suicide terrorism against the United States. However, there has never been an al-Qaeda suicide terrorist from Iran, and we have no evidence that there are any suicide terrorists in Iraq from Iran.

Sudan is a country of 21 million people. Its government is extremely Islamic fundamentalist. The ideology of Sudan was so congenial to Osama bin Laden that he spent three years in Sudan in the 1990s. Yet there has never been an al-Qaeda suicide terrorist from Sudan[/u]

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2005/jul/18/00017/

[shootfighter1]

US has certainly interfered too much in some instances (Iraq, Vietnam, etc).  Also, blatantly pro-Israel, which I understand to a point.  I guess its tough to balance promoting freedom, human rights and democracy vs interfering in other countries. affairs.  Plus, helping to monitor the world for terrorists that want to destroy a western way of life.  IMO, in general, we should be promoting these ideas without military involvement unless absolutely necessary (Iraq was not absolutely necessary and cost us greatly!)