well i think your speaking about it here, but not just in the one way you just described. your details here about the way in which its possible to speak about enlightenment, actually inform about the state of enlightement, beyond just telling me thats you can talk about it in just one way. however, then again, if you can only speak about enlightenment through showing two opposing things which are both true, then your above writing can not be accurate about enlightenment, since it deviates from that set path which you said is the oly possible way to spak on the subject matter.
maybe this is why monks are always quiet.
there, i edited my post, so now it should make a bit more sense.
Excuse me I'm a little slow today, but I guess what you're saying is that my explanation attempt would have to fall into the same category as any other explanation (which has an opposing one), and I agree. My statements are either 100% a construct of my ego or just parroting of something I read. I'm of course included in my original statement about the irrelevant drivel in his thread.
your explanation would fall into that category,you explained a way in which you could explain enlightenmentand in doing so, you explained enlightenment in a different wayby giving details about a way in which a person could speak abotu enlightenment without involving ego, i am given more clues as to the real nature of enlightenmentnow about enlightenment.... i think its achievable but i dont know if its possile to have it permanently
i really dont know anything about buddah or buddism, other than the fact i have a buddist t shirt i got in a thrift shop in davis that i like to wear, and also if anybody ask my reilgion i say zen buddism.
It's only true awakening if it's permanent. Everything else is only an emotional outburst where the "enlightenment" is gone as soon as the emotion that comes with it is gone. However, awakening means nothing else than to realize that we are enligtened beeings all the way. If someone awakens, he is an enlightened beeing for his whole life, "before" and "after" his awakening. It comes with the realization that there is in fact no such thing as past and future and therefore it would be ridiculous to talk about when you are (have been) awake and when not.
i disagree wave, i've never read or heard that regarding time. quite the opposite in fact, buddha spoke about past lives, and karma in those past lives. he also spoke of his time before enlightenment i.e. past tense.
That's the thing with spiritual scripture, the mind wants to take it literally.Quite obviously, one can only be awake at one single moment, the now. It's the only moment our whole life happens in.
sometimes you should take it literally
Well maybe you're right. As I said, all drivel anyway.
ofcourse my friend you smell that? it's the smell of a new era in getbig .... accomodated by the smell of protein farts from all the members
Sorry I was primarily referring to my own contributions.
i value your contributions wave - they are always thought provoking
When will this stupid thread just die?
Over the past few years i have owned many a getbigger, some great some not so great.I have attacked most who disagree with anything i say, and been ruthless in my anger.I now realise i am so far in peoples heads, it is upsetting them on a personal level.However i would like to say i am aware of this, and will try from this moment on to be nicer to everyone.I believe in Karma, and although i try to be nice always - i have failed too many times.So this is my official apology, sorry for any offence caused.I would like to extend my help and advices to anyone who needs or asks.Take careFatpanda
what is this?!.. the last post before your post dd april 08 (about 40 days ago) so i believe your comment doesn't make any sense!!
Whenever I click the "show new replies to your posts" button, this is always near the top, but I usually just click on it then get out because I find the topic so boring. Wish I never would have posted on it. But good job on the detective work my Arab friend.
I'm stalking this guy. I've been posting these pics on every board thinking I was being funny, because he hurt my feelings and I'm quite the little bitch and can't let it go.
Fat Panda is a bit obese, but he is a good man. Although the pictures are a bit funny of him. Thanks for the laugh