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« on: May 07, 2009, 06:50:08 PM »
Serra-Hughes, At Long Last
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009
by Jason Probst (jprobst@sherdog.com)


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Grudge matches in mixed martial arts rarely simmer as long as the Matt Serra-Matt Hughes tiff. And, if striking coach Ray Longo has anything to say about it, Serra will turn another opportunity into an upset come May 23.

But ever since the two locked verbal horns as coaches on the sixth season of “The Ultimate Fighter” in Fall 2007, the dislike between the two has endured while the match to settle the affair has yet to materialize. But that changes as the two comprise the semi-main event of UFC 98, in a battle between two ex-champions.

Originally slated for Dec. 29, 2007, Serra, who’d pulled off a stunning upset of Georges St. Pierre to win the title, pulled out of the bout with a back injury five weeks before their much-hyped showdown.

St. Pierre beat Hughes and then Serra in a rematch in April 2008. The Long Island fighter hasn’t fought since. But now, coach Longo believes Serra, 9-5, is positioned to beat Hughes.

“The original injury was two herniated disks. The guy was literally crippled for a month. It is what it is,” said Longo of the injury that derailed the original bout. “I wouldn’t say he was impaired for the (St. Pierre) match, but in training there were things that we stayed away from. We didn’t do a risky training camp.”

As a relatively small 170-pounder, Serra, 9-5, has relied on conditioning, jiu-jitsu and an underrated standup game. Against Hughes, he’ll need to stay on his feet, and Longo says that’s exactly what they’ve been working on.

“We’ve been in training camp about two months now. At first, we just worked on conditioning. He feels great, and his back feels great,” Longo said. “That was (originally) a concern. Between that, he’s doing a lot of sparring and a lot of wrestling. He’s doing more wrestling than I’ve ever seen him do.”


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Hughes has stated this
will be his last fight.The key to Serra’s game plan is no mystery -- he’ll have to keep Hughes from being Hughes, the grappling powerhouse that ruled the division through a menacing combination of takedowns and physical dominance.

“We’ve got some 200-pounders,” Longo added. “Strong guys that imitate Hughes.”

In the first St. Pierre match, Serra unleashed a series of big right hands that ended the Canadian’s reign in his first defense. It wasn’t quite Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson, but the stunning one-sidedness of it was a sobering reminder of what a well-placed shot can do to level the mixed martial arts playing field.

“Even with the first GSP fight, I don’t think anybody remotely thought Matt would stand with him,” Longo said. “But he likes to bang. He’s got the power. To beat Hughes, he’s got to stuff a couple of takedowns. He’ll win if his takedown defense is where we think it’s gonna be.”

While MMA feuds often have a manufactured feel, the Serra-Hughes rivalry is no act, Longo added.

“At one point they (occasionally) talked at shows and were good. They had a good rapport with each other. On the show, when Hughes was insulting St. Pierre, offering to show him an armbar defense, I think that’s when you started to see Hughes’ true colors,” Longo said. “He’s also close with Din Thomas and didn’t like Hughes’ comments to Dean. He’s always been the type of guy that sticks up for the underdog.”

Since their verbal sparring on the reality show, the two have traded jabs in virtually every medium possible. It isn’t easy to imagine why they don’t get along, especially given the stakes of the packed welterweight rankings and the value of a win.

Serra’s journey in the UFC has been considerable and rife with dizzying turns of fortune. He’s been decisioned by B.J. Penn and Karo Parisyan, stopped with a highlight-reel spinning back fist by Shonie Carter in a bout he was winning. But that was followed by his winning the fourth season of “The Ultimate Fighter,” then taking the title with his shock knockout of the seemingly invincible St. Pierre.

Then, he was blown out in the rematch. Now, he gets Hughes -- loser of three of his last four after one of the most dominant careers in the sport’s history. Hughes, 42-7, took the template of ground-and-pound and made it into a living. However, Longo believes that at some point, Hughes stopped evolving as a fighter, and that’s what he believes Serra will take advantage of.

“His last couple fights, he’s coming out like a southpaw, but he’s coming to go out there and get you to the floor. It looked like, at one point, his stand-up was coming along, but that he put it on the back burner,” Longo said. “Maybe GSP highlighted a couple flaws. I think the guy was a great champion, but the sport’s just evolving. It’s not what it was when he was a champion either, and the sport’s taking off in terms of everybody’s skills.”

Hughes has stated this will be his last fight -- one last match to get in before retiring.

“He’s definitely at the tail end of his career for sure. I don’t know where his motivation’s coming from now,” Longo said. “It’s like everybody else, you can’t get away from the sport … or you’re searching for something, but a lot of guys just don’t know when to hang it up. (Serra) just has to do what he has to do. If he gets the right opportunity, he’ll turn it up. But not to the point where he makes a mistake. He’s a professional. But believe me when I tell you -- he really wants to beat his ass.” 
 
 
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Re: serra vs hughes= they both speak out on grudge match
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2009, 12:00:05 AM »
i just had to write something to get those zeros away from my posts,lol. im trying to post better quality stuff for these boards like sincity,ron and mindspin do. they are all awesome and ill never come close to being the quality thread starters that they are
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Re: serra vs hughes= they both speak out on grudge match
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2009, 07:03:37 AM »
i just had to write something to get those zeros away from my posts,lol. im trying to post better quality stuff for these boards like sincity,ron and mindspin do. they are all awesome and ill never come close to being the quality thread starters that they are



Dude you did a great job. Glad I had you on the team or the board would've been slow. everyone helped out thanks fellas.

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UFC 98
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2009, 07:16:31 AM »
All things 98 will go here after a few days...


P.s. thanks to my english proof reader

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Matt Serra on Matt Hughes and his Video Blogs.
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2009, 07:19:47 AM »







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Re: Matt Serra on Matt Hughes and his Video Blogs.
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009, 01:08:31 AM »
cool stuff, serra is a cool dude. hughes better bring his best cause serra is, im going with serra on this one
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Re: Matt Serra on Matt Hughes and his Video Blogs.
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2009, 06:23:43 AM »
cool stuff, serra is a cool dude. hughes better bring his best cause serra is, im going with serra on this one

I amm not a Serra fan in the least. Prolly one of the guys I hate the most. I just cant stand his jersey attitude and for some reason everytime he talks I just clinch my jaw up... Those videos were painful for me....

I hope Hughes KO's him to where he is left twitching! That way Hughes can tell him to SHUT THE FUCK UP! ha-ha.

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Re: Matt Serra on Matt Hughes and his Video Blogs.
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2009, 06:59:01 AM »
I can't stand Hughes.  It seems like arrogance flows thru his vains. 

Cheering for Serra on this

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Quote of the Day: Sean Sherk Talks Diego Sanchez, Title Hopes
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2009, 06:10:21 PM »
Sean Sherk: You know, Diego always look tough. That’s why I want to fight him. He was a top guy at 170 for a long time. He looks good every time, including his most recent win against Joe. It was a good first fight to introduce him to the lightweight division, I think. It’s funny because some people took it as disrespectful that I mentioned him as an opponent, but I asked to fight him out of respect for him. We’re both great fighters and I think a fight between us would be exciting.
 
Rich Wyatt: Diego has gone on the record saying that he's been given word that he'll earn a title shot with a dominating win over Clay Guida at the TUF 9 Finale.  As the former lightweight champion and given the fact that your only loss at lightweight has come against the current champion, how do you feel about that statement?


 Sean Sherk: Well, I would hope I’d be closer in line. I’m the former champion and have looked good lately. I would hope I’d be closer in line. If I beat Frankie, I’m not sure where that leaves me. I only want to fight the best, you know? I’m a guy who wants to challenge myself. I’ve got no interest in fighting pretenders. I’ve been in this industry for 10 years. I only want tho fight the best. That’s what gets me out of bed every day and makes me want to train. I’d like to fight either the winner of the Penn-Florian fight or the winner of Guida-Sanchez.

Sean Sherk talking to MMA for Real.


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UFC 98 Betting Preview: Early Lines Edition
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2009, 06:11:27 PM »
With UFC 98 roughly two weeks away, it's worth taking a look at the current lines due to the fact that many of them are moving to favor the bank rather than the bettor. For the most part, oddsmakers have been getting relatively better at setting lines within the context of the UFC events, but the fanbase is also betting much more than they had been two or three years ago. This has resulted in many of the more recent events pushing closer lines as events approach. Every solid bettor knows that jumping on the lines early can result in solid returns. Let's take a look, parentheses are odds ranges from the various sites listed at BestFightOdds.com:

Lyoto Machida (-220 to -205) vs. Rashad Evans (+180 to +165): The matchup is one of the best we'll see in the Light Heavyweight Division this year, and the lines are even more enticing if you have a winner already picked out. Machida's line is continuing further up from -220, so you should jump on the lowest line you can right now before it hits the stratosphere. If you believe Evans will win this matchup, his line continues to get better for underdog bettors, moving up toward +190. You might want to try to wait on this line as it continues to get better.

Matt Hughes (-260 to -250) vs. Matt Serra (+220 to +190): Hughes' line is continuing to rise to a point where I don't think a bet is going to be possible with a little cash. He's rising toward -300, and I've always been wary when it hits that ceiling. -300 for Hughes isn't a bad deal though, if you truly believe he's the big favorite here. Serra's line is getting better. He may approach +250 by fight time, so waiting for the underdog pick might be worthwhile. Keep an eye on it.

Frankie Edgar (+240 to +190) vs. Sean Sherk (-280 to -265): Edgar isn't my pick here, but if you believe he can pull it off, now is the time to bet. +240 is a great underdog value bet here. Sherk's line won't move too much. It's sticking around -260 to -270, not a bad bet at all. I'd stick with a Sherk bet right now.

Dave Kaplan (+120 to +110) vs. George Roop (-140 to -150): Kaplan's line is getting better for underdog bets as it is moving toward +130, but this is still a pretty even line. Roop is heading upward, so he's going to be a bigger favorite down the road. Regardless of those lines moving, if Roop's your pick, you better bet now.

Kyle Bradley (+290 to +280) vs. Phillipe Nover (-350 to -365): Nover's line seems to be maintaining at -350, so I'm a bit skeptical at this point in betting on it. Too much dough to throw down on such a lowly fight. Bradley really isn't moving at all either, so if you know something we don't about Bradley, maybe it can work out. I'm staying away.

Brandon Wolff (+365 to +350) vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (-460 to -550): I'm definitely not betting on this one. Line is way too far apart, not moving whatsoever, and Yoshida is the obvious favorite skill-wise in this matchup. -550 is huge. If it was down toward -350, it might not be such a hard bargain.

Pat Barry (-300 to -350) vs. Tim Hague (+250 to +225): Hague is actually moving up on some books, but Barry is also pulling away on some books. The line could hit -400 by the time the event comes around for Barry, so jump on Barry right now if that's your horse.

Brock Larson (+120) vs. Chris Wilson (-167): Only one book is putting odds out on this fight currently, but Larson is a decent underdog bet here, although +120 isn't the greatest value. Nonetheless, it might be worth a play. I'd probably wait till the other books push their odds out first to get some more options.

Drew McFedries (-227) vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam (+157): Again, only one book currently pushing these odds, so I'd wait for some other lines to hit the wires before making any bets. I imagine Pokam will see some action if he's an underdog, so it might be worth checking the books for when all the odds come out. Making a play on Pokam early might pay off.

Andre Gusmao (-118) vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (-118): Another matchup with only one book on the odds so far. I like Gusmao here, and I think people underestimate him. If this line sticks, I'll bet some good money on him. Again, wait for some of the other books to open up for better options.

Betting Analysis

One of the ways a bettor can get ahead of the game is to jump on the early lines. Sometimes waiting out the hype is the right play as well, specifically for Evans. Evans may continue to rise as people bet on Machida more and more. You may be able to grab him up at +200 if this continues a day before the fight.

Happy Betting everyone!


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Re: Matt Serra on Matt Hughes and his Video Blogs.
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2009, 08:02:40 AM »
I amm not a Serra fan in the least. Prolly one of the guys I hate the most. I just cant stand his jersey attitude and for some reason everytime he talks I just clinch my jaw up... Those videos were painful for me....

I hope Hughes KO's him to where he is left twitching! That way Hughes can tell him to SHUT THE FUCK UP! ha-ha.

I can't stand serra at all and hope Hughes gets his first knock out to shut him up, but for the record, serra is from long island,ny, not Jersey, we have enough bs in this state, we really don't want to lay claim to this munchkin from oz

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Re: Matt Serra on Matt Hughes and his Video Blogs.
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 09:11:19 AM »
I can't stand serra at all and hope Hughes gets his first knock out to shut him up, but for the record, serra is from long island,ny, not Jersey, we have enough bs in this state, we really don't want to lay claim to this munchkin from oz


Oops my bad, he just seems to have that guido jersey tough guy attitude...

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Quote from Machida...
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2009, 10:26:01 AM »
"I felt a lot of pressure when I fought Rich Franklin. I had just two MMA fights and he was undefeated with nine knockouts, and many people came to tell me that if I stayed on my feet, I would be knocked out fast. But my father said, ‘It’s not like that, go there and believe in our art.’ I did what he said and knocked him out in the second round.

...My father is a amazing strategist. When he looks at someone fighting he knows exactly what I have to do. But my father is hot tempered -- he wants me to decide the fight fast, while my brother, Shinzo (a 2006 world-champion silver medalist in Shotokan karate) is more balanced and fights just like myself. Joining the tactics of my father and the equilibrium of Shinzo, I have the perfect package in my corner."

--Lyoto Machida, on his father, Sensei Machida
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Re: Quote from Machida...
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2009, 02:08:14 PM »
thats very interesting..thanks

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Re: Quote from Machida...
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2009, 08:25:31 PM »
while machida talks mostly about his karate backround, he doesnt really bring up the fact that he was trained by japanese wrestling superstar antonio inoki for years and trained/trains alot with the nog brothers and anderson silva. the dragon is awesome in sumo, wrestling and bjj but just prefers to say karate is his style to honor his fathers wishes
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Re: Quote of the Day: Sean Sherk Talks Diego Sanchez, Title Hopes
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2009, 09:57:30 AM »
Sherk would annihilate Sanchez IMO. 


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Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2009, 10:02:42 AM »
"I don’t think about fight at heavyweight division, but I think about a challenge, maybe against the heavyweight champion, but it’s time for it now. My focus, for sure, is on my division now, later is later. Maybe a fight against Brock Lesnar. He’s a huge guy, showed himself very aggressive and strong, who knows if one day we can fight… I respect him as a fighter, he’s very strong, but I’m professional and I’d like to test myself."

--Lyoto Machida
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Re: Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2009, 11:09:44 AM »
"I don’t think about fight at heavyweight division, but I think about a challenge, maybe against the heavyweight champion, but it’s time for it now. My focus, for sure, is on my division now, later is later. Maybe a fight against Brock Lesnar. He’s a huge guy, showed himself very aggressive and strong, who knows if one day we can fight… I respect him as a fighter, he’s very strong, but I’m professional and I’d like to test myself."

--Lyoto Machida

machida is trying to generate publicity

he is an amazing fighter

but his style will never sell tickets
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Re: Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2009, 11:35:55 AM »
True, but I think the trainwreck factor would make everyone tune in to see him fight Lesnar. Shit- I know I would.

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Re: Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2009, 01:17:31 PM »
"I don’t think about fight at heavyweight division, but I think about a challenge, maybe against the heavyweight champion, but it’s time for it now. My focus, for sure, is on my division now, later is later. Maybe a fight against Brock Lesnar. He’s a huge guy, showed himself very aggressive and strong, who knows if one day we can fight… I respect him as a fighter, he’s very strong, but I’m professional and I’d like to test myself."

--Lyoto Machida


I think you made that up !

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Re: Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2009, 02:01:08 PM »
machida is trying to generate publicity

he is an amazing fighter

but his style will never sell tickets

after having watched more of his fights, he's actually more dominant that he has gotten credit for.  And his last fight was a vicious KO.  I'm now a fan. 
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Re: Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2009, 02:01:42 PM »

I think you made that up !

I'm from the future.
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Re: Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2009, 02:24:04 PM »
after having watched more of his fights, he's actually more dominant that he has gotten credit for.  And his last fight was a vicious KO.  I'm now a fan. 

his chance for prime time

was when he fought tito

but although he was tactically spot on

his hit and run didn't endear him to the fans

he needs an exciting high profile fight maybe against forest or jackson
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Re: Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2009, 06:01:08 PM »
"I don’t think about fight at heavyweight division, but I think about a challenge, maybe against the heavyweight champion, but it’s time for it now. My focus, for sure, is on my division now, later is later. Maybe a fight against Brock Lesnar. He’s a huge guy, showed himself very aggressive and strong, who knows if one day we can fight… I respect him as a fighter, he’s very strong, but I’m professional and I’d like to test myself."

--Lyoto Machida
LOL, awesome. 8)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Lyoto Machida Wants Brock Lesnar
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2009, 11:31:59 PM »
first machida better get past rashad before he thinks about fighting a beast like that, i do believe machida has better technique then brock in striking and bjj, but i think the size,strength advantage and brocks awesome ground and octagon control will be to much for the machada in the later rounds
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