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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2009, 01:52:42 PM »
We all know where his pay checks come from.

Where is that.

I think 240 claimed I worked for the government 2 years ago.

I don't.

I am a Canadian Engineer that works in the private industry.
Barry is chasing the former VP around. he had to reschedual his news conference to get ahead of Cheney's. His speech was more BS and crying about what the previous admin had done,barely anything about what he's gonna do. Well actually we know what he's gonna do, the SAME SHIT AS BUSH. Good job Barry.

He has to. All of the agencies are telling him that Gitmo was the right thing to do.
That he needs wire tapping and that they need enhanced interrogation techniques.
Most of these recommendations came from internal reports after 9-11.

Obama can ignore these reports at his own peril.
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« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2009, 01:58:58 PM »
Which is exactly the reverse of all his campaign bullshit. I know he has to...because its the reality of the situation. Maybe ol george wasn't such an idiot. I can atleast say with supreme confidence he knew who the hell his Sec Def was.
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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2009, 01:59:58 PM »
Where is that.

I think 240 claimed I worked for the government 2 years ago.

I don't.


Don't play dumb with me joker.  We all know you are sock puppet for the US government's counter forum propaganda team (CFPT).

J/k

Joking aside, I appreciate your concise support material, links and such when you make a point.  

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2009, 02:09:39 PM »
yeah, joker is involved in the BBing scene and works in an industry that requires more brainpower than I could ever muster, i'll give him that. 

What, we don't warrant enough views to get our own disinfo guy?

Wait, is that why BB is here? ???

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2009, 02:11:46 PM »

Joking aside, I appreciate your concise support material, links and such when you make a point.  

Yep. 

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2009, 02:16:23 PM »
Don't play dumb with me joker.  We all know you are sock puppet for the US government's counter forum propaganda team (CFPT).

J/k

Joking aside, I appreciate your concise support material, links and such when you make a point.  

HAHA

Thanks,
It takes time to refute some of these outlandish statements.
Especially when the quotes come from crazy racist sources.
Or logic that defies me.

yeah, joker is involved in the BBing scene and works in an industry that requires more brainpower than I could ever muster, i'll give him that. 

What, we don't warrant enough views to get our own disinfo guy?

Wait, is that why BB is here? ???

Thanks, though I am not as involved in BB as I once was. Sadly my real job takes up too much time.

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2009, 02:21:41 PM »
President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a "preventive detention" system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried, two participants in the private session said.
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The two participants, outsiders who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the session was intended to be off the record, said they left the meeting dismayed.

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"He was almost ruminating over the need for statutory change to the laws so that we can deal with individuals who we can't charge and detain," one participant said. "We've known this is on the horizon for many years, but we were able to hold it off with George Bush. The idea that we might find ourselves fighting with the Obama administration over these powers is really stunning."

The other participant said Mr. Obama did not seem to be thinking about preventive detention for terrorism suspects now held at Guantanamo Bay, but rather for those captured in the future, in settings other than a legitimate battlefield like Afghanistan…

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« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2009, 04:51:15 PM »


Soldier Gets Life Sentence for Iraq Murders


Published: May 21, 2009
A jury in Kentucky sentenced a 24-year-old former soldier to life in prison without parole on Thursday for raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and murdering her, her parents and a younger sister in Iraq.

The verdict spared the former soldier, Steven D. Green, capital punishment for a crime that spurred demands for retribution from Iraqis and raised questions about Army oversight of its most combat-stressed forces.

After deliberating for just one day, the 12-member jury sitting in Paducah, Ky., declared itself hung late Thursday afternoon, resulting in the lesser sentence, said Dawn Masden, a spokeswoman for the United States attorney for the Western District of Kentucky, based in Louisville.

The verdict seemed likely to anger Iraqis who had argued that Mr. Green and the other soldiers involved in the murders should have been tried by an Iraqi court and who had asserted that only a death penalty could satisfy the family and fellow villagers of the victims.

At least four other soldiers have pleaded guilty or were convicted in military courts for their roles in the rape and murders. While most of them received long prison terms, none are facing the death penalty, and all will be eligible for parole in 10 years or less.

Mr. Green’s trial was the first capital punishment case tried under a 2000 law allowing federal criminal courts to try crimes committed overseas by former members of the military, military dependents, contractors and other civilians, legal experts said. Mr. Green left the Army, with an honorable discharge on a diagnosis for a personality disorder, just weeks before he was arrested in 2006.

The March 2006 murders in Mahmudiya, a Sunni-dominated town 20 miles south of Baghdad, were so bloody that American and Iraqi authorities initially thought they were the work of insurgents. The American soldiers were implicated after at least one of them acknowledged to fellow soldiers a role in the crimes.

At the time, the Iraq insurgency was near its violent apex, and American forces were suffering heavy casualties. Private Green’s unit, Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division, was sent to a particularly violent area known by soldiers as the Triangle of Death south of Baghdad, soon after arriving in Iraq in the fall of 2005.

The battalion quickly took casualties, including a sergeant close to Private Green. In December, Private Green, along with other members of his platoon, told an Army stress counselor that he wanted to take revenge on Iraqis, including civilians. The counselor labeled the unit “mission incapable” because of poor morale, high combat stress and anger over the deaths, and said it needed both stronger supervision and rest. It got neither, testimony at Mr. Green’s trial showed.

On March 11, 2006, after drinking Iraqi whiskey, Private Green and other soldiers manning a checkpoint decided to rape an Iraqi girl who lived nearby, according to testimony. Wearing civilian clothing, the soldiers broke into a house and raped Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi. Soldiers in the group testified that Private Green killed the girl’s parents and a younger sister before raping and then shooting the girl in the head with the family’s own AK-47, which it kept for self defense.

At his trial, Mr. Green’s lawyers built a case intended less to deny his role in the crime than to plant questions about whether he deserved the death penalty.

Mr. Green, who was reared in Midland, Tex., came from a broken and chaotic home, defense witnesses testified, and despite scoring well on intelligence tests, was highly impulsive and did poorly in school. He got into the Army in 2005 on a so-called morals waiver, having had problems with alcohol and drug abuse.

On May 7, the same jury that issued the life sentence convicted Mr. Green on 17 counts, including premeditated murder.

During the sentencing phase of the trial, the Army stress counselor, Lt. Col. Karen Marrs, a mental health nurse practitioner, testified that then-Private Green was disturbed by deaths in his unit and had expressed a desire to hurt Iraqi civilians. But she also said that such sentiments had been expressed by other members of the unit and are not uncommon among troops in combat. On questioning from the prosecution, she also said that she thought Private Green clearly understood that hurting civilians would be wrong and that he had no plans to act on his anger.

The defense argued that the Army should have provided stronger leadership to Private Green’s unit, and should have removed Private Green from front-line duty for more intensive mental health care.

But the prosecution strenuously rejected that argument, saying that many combat troops face the same kinds of trauma and stress as Private Green and his platoon, but that few commit atrocities.

“The defendant failed to live up to his duty to protect the innocent people of Iraq,” Marissa Ford, one of the federal prosecutors, said near the beginning of the penalty phase.

Doug Green, 28, Mr. Green’s brother, told the Associated Press: “I do think it gives him a chance to have some semblance of a life. We’re grateful for that.”


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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2009, 05:13:01 PM »
HAHA

Thanks,
It takes time to refute some of these outlandish statements.
Especially when the quotes come from crazy racist sources.
Or logic that defies me.

Thanks, though I am not as involved in BB as I once was. Sadly my real job takes up too much time.

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What was your "fake" job and how do you determine if it is fake or real? 

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2009, 06:06:32 PM »
What was your "fake" job and how do you determine if it is fake or real? 

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2009, 06:12:09 PM »
The differance will be Chenney kept Americans safe for the last 7.5 years while Obama has to rely on his community organising to come up with a policy.This is a battle of an incredible lightweight in Obama vs. a guy that knows more then Obama will ever know.

meanwhile more illegals came into the nation...attack by hostiles or a furture hostile break up the United State...which one do you want?

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2009, 07:04:40 PM »
Soldier Gets Life Sentence for Iraq Murders


Published: May 21, 2009
A jury in Kentucky sentenced a 24-year-old former soldier to life in prison without parole on Thursday for raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and murdering her, her parents and a younger sister in Iraq.

The verdict spared the former soldier, Steven D. Green, capital punishment for a crime that spurred demands for retribution from Iraqis and raised questions about Army oversight of its most combat-stressed forces.

After deliberating for just one day, the 12-member jury sitting in Paducah, Ky., declared itself hung late Thursday afternoon, resulting in the lesser sentence, said Dawn Masden, a spokeswoman for the United States attorney for the Western District of Kentucky, based in Louisville.

The verdict seemed likely to anger Iraqis who had argued that Mr. Green and the other soldiers involved in the murders should have been tried by an Iraqi court and who had asserted that only a death penalty could satisfy the family and fellow villagers of the victims.

At least four other soldiers have pleaded guilty or were convicted in military courts for their roles in the rape and murders. While most of them received long prison terms, none are facing the death penalty, and all will be eligible for parole in 10 years or less.

Mr. Green’s trial was the first capital punishment case tried under a 2000 law allowing federal criminal courts to try crimes committed overseas by former members of the military, military dependents, contractors and other civilians, legal experts said. Mr. Green left the Army, with an honorable discharge on a diagnosis for a personality disorder, just weeks before he was arrested in 2006.

The March 2006 murders in Mahmudiya, a Sunni-dominated town 20 miles south of Baghdad, were so bloody that American and Iraqi authorities initially thought they were the work of insurgents. The American soldiers were implicated after at least one of them acknowledged to fellow soldiers a role in the crimes.

At the time, the Iraq insurgency was near its violent apex, and American forces were suffering heavy casualties. Private Green’s unit, Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division, was sent to a particularly violent area known by soldiers as the Triangle of Death south of Baghdad, soon after arriving in Iraq in the fall of 2005.

The battalion quickly took casualties, including a sergeant close to Private Green. In December, Private Green, along with other members of his platoon, told an Army stress counselor that he wanted to take revenge on Iraqis, including civilians. The counselor labeled the unit “mission incapable” because of poor morale, high combat stress and anger over the deaths, and said it needed both stronger supervision and rest. It got neither, testimony at Mr. Green’s trial showed.

On March 11, 2006, after drinking Iraqi whiskey, Private Green and other soldiers manning a checkpoint decided to rape an Iraqi girl who lived nearby, according to testimony. Wearing civilian clothing, the soldiers broke into a house and raped Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi. Soldiers in the group testified that Private Green killed the girl’s parents and a younger sister before raping and then shooting the girl in the head with the family’s own AK-47, which it kept for self defense.

At his trial, Mr. Green’s lawyers built a case intended less to deny his role in the crime than to plant questions about whether he deserved the death penalty.

Mr. Green, who was reared in Midland, Tex., came from a broken and chaotic home, defense witnesses testified, and despite scoring well on intelligence tests, was highly impulsive and did poorly in school. He got into the Army in 2005 on a so-called morals waiver, having had problems with alcohol and drug abuse.

On May 7, the same jury that issued the life sentence convicted Mr. Green on 17 counts, including premeditated murder.

During the sentencing phase of the trial, the Army stress counselor, Lt. Col. Karen Marrs, a mental health nurse practitioner, testified that then-Private Green was disturbed by deaths in his unit and had expressed a desire to hurt Iraqi civilians. But she also said that such sentiments had been expressed by other members of the unit and are not uncommon among troops in combat. On questioning from the prosecution, she also said that she thought Private Green clearly understood that hurting civilians would be wrong and that he had no plans to act on his anger.

The defense argued that the Army should have provided stronger leadership to Private Green’s unit, and should have removed Private Green from front-line duty for more intensive mental health care.

But the prosecution strenuously rejected that argument, saying that many combat troops face the same kinds of trauma and stress as Private Green and his platoon, but that few commit atrocities.

“The defendant failed to live up to his duty to protect the innocent people of Iraq,” Marissa Ford, one of the federal prosecutors, said near the beginning of the penalty phase.

Doug Green, 28, Mr. Green’s brother, told the Associated Press: “I do think it gives him a chance to have some semblance of a life. We’re grateful for that.”




And ur point is..douchebag.
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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2009, 06:47:38 AM »
Anyone watch the two speeches?Chenney took Obamas pants off and spanked his fucking ass.Not even the democrats are on Board with this community organisers plan.

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2009, 07:35:07 AM »
Anyone watch the two speeches?Chenney took Obamas pants off and spanked his fucking ass.Not even the democrats are on Board with this community organisers plan.

yeah, the way he used '911' 25 times was splendid.

it's like talking to a 6 year old about eating his vegetables, and reminding him that grandpa died of colon cancer 25 times.

Of course we need to torture these fckwits - obama has left those tools on the table in case you didn't notice.  The problem is, do we leave them on the vacation spot konwn as gitmo, or open a Gitmo2 in the states, supermax prison, and give them all life sentences.

I say yes.  Cheney released 2/3 of those fvcks.  He says no.  And he wants them to stay at the republican-described "vacation resort".  I think despite the tough talk, he's a little soft on doling out punishment to these bad guys...

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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2009, 07:45:12 AM »
yeah, the way he used '911' 25 times was splendid.

it's like talking to a 6 year old about eating his vegetables, and reminding him that grandpa died of colon cancer 25 times.

Of course we need to torture these fckwits - obama has left those tools on the table in case you didn't notice.  The problem is, do we leave them on the vacation spot konwn as gitmo, or open a Gitmo2 in the states, supermax prison, and give them all life sentences.

I say yes.  Cheney released 2/3 of those fvcks.  He says no.  And he wants them to stay at the republican-described "vacation resort".  I think despite the tough talk, he's a little soft on doling out punishment to these bad guys...

YEAH THE WAY OBAMA BLAMED THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION 28 TIMES!!!Obama just saw yesterday Terrorists planning to attack us that were CONVERTED IN JAIL!!!This a-hole wants to put the muslim terrorists in jail so they can convert the prison.That community organiser is a freaking brilliant guy.He learned well at the feet of Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright.

Chenney kicked his black ass and made him look like the know nothing community organiser he is.He should stick to working with ACORN to steal elections!!

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2009, 07:50:03 AM »
Chenney kicked his black ass

Billy, what does race have to do with anything here?


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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #66 on: May 22, 2009, 07:54:41 AM »
yeah, the way he used '911' 25 times was splendid.

it's like talking to a 6 year old about eating his vegetables, and reminding him that grandpa died of colon cancer 25 times.

Of course we need to torture these fckwits - obama has left those tools on the table in case you didn't notice.  The problem is, do we leave them on the vacation spot konwn as gitmo, or open a Gitmo2 in the states, supermax prison, and give them all life sentences.

I say yes.  Cheney released 2/3 of those fvcks.  He says no.  And he wants them to stay at the republican-described "vacation resort".  I think despite the tough talk, he's a little soft on doling out punishment to these bad guys...


Barry blames everything on Bush..he whines like a bitch about everything. He whined during the Latin American summit about not being blamed for the Bay of Pigs. What Barry forgets is that he is the fucking PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and not still running for president. He is now responsible for everything. He is a weak weak man. Cheney is running this debate and Obama is playing catch-up.
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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2009, 08:07:00 AM »

Barry blames everything on Bush..he whines like a bitch about everything. 

And you blame everything on Obama.  Whining like a bitch yourself.  So really, what point were you illustrating here?  Besides typical excuse making and bullshit?


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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2009, 08:09:25 AM »
Again..ur an idiot. What did Barry say in his speech? What new policy did he set? What new plan did he put forward................. ..ZERO. Ur lib douchebags had 8 years to blast Bush. Well guess what Barry is in charge, its either his fault or its not. He owns it all now. U idiots voted for him, u can live with it when he makes an ass of himself.
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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2009, 08:47:33 AM »
Are we going to spend the next 8 years watching you attempt to call your BOSS "Barry".  It's kind of sad really.  Like you have a close relationship with him or something.  Or is this your way of attempting to soothe your own frustrations.

Well get this...  "BARRY" ain't got no time for playa hatas. 

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« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2009, 08:50:37 AM »
Are we going to spend the next 8 years watching you attempt to call your BOSS "Barry".  It's kind of sad really.  Like you have a close relationship with him or something.  Or is this your way of attempting to soothe your own frustrations.

Well get this...  "BARRY" ain't got no time for playa hatas. 

Our BOSS?That blue mouthed idiot isnt my boss.He hasnt given me a fucking dime!!!!My boss is the guy that signs my check.Politicians are NOT the boss,WE are  their boss,we can fire them whenever we want.

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2009, 08:51:30 AM »
Billy, what does race have to do with anything here?



I dont know,why dont you get upset when people like YOU call Rush fat or Chenney fat.What does weight have to do with it?

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2009, 08:55:20 AM »
I dont know,why dont you get upset when people like YOU call Rush fat or Chenney fat.What does weight have to do with it?

I guess if we were all crying about how only fat people voted for fat people, or fat people were making policies to benefit fat people, etc.. then you would have a point.

But you don't.

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Re: The Dems' Wet Dream today
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2009, 08:56:39 AM »
I dont know,why dont you get upset when people like YOU call Rush fat or Chenney fat.What does weight have to do with it?
Obesity is a billion dollar strain on our Health System, Economy as well as contributing to higher Energy usage and costs.
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« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2009, 08:57:44 AM »
Obesity is a billion dollar strain on our Health System, Economy as well as contributing to higher Energy usage and costs.
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You should put us obese people in concentration camps.
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