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French pool bars Muslim bodybuiling woman for 'burquini' suit
« on: August 12, 2009, 12:37:40 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090812/ap_on_re_eu/eu_france_burquini_banned..

  By MARIA DANILOVA, Associated Press Writer Maria Danilova, Associated Press Writer   – 3 mins ago

PARIS – A Muslim woman garbed in a head-to-toe swimsuit — dubbed a "burquini" — may have opened a new chapter in France's tussle between religious practices and its stern secular code.

Officials insisted Wednesday they banned the woman's use of the Islam-friendly suit at a local pool because of France's pool hygiene standards — not out of hostility to overtly Muslim garb.

Under the policy, swimmers are not allowed in pools with baggy clothing, including surfer-style shorts. Only figure-hugging suits are permitted.

Nonetheless the woman, a 35-year-old convert to Islam identified only as Carole, complained of religious discrimination after trying to go swimming in a "burquini," a full-body swimsuit, in the town of Emerainville, southeast of Paris.

She was quoted as telling the daily Le Parisien newspaper that she had bought the burquini after deciding "it would allow me the pleasure of bathing without showing too much of myself, as Islam recommends."

"For me this is nothing but segregation," she said.

The issue of religious attire is a hot topic in France, where head-to-toe burqas or other full-body coverings worn by some Muslim fundamentalists are in official disfavor.

France is home to western Europe's largest Muslim population, estimated at 5 million, and Islam is the nation's second religion after Roman Catholicism.

A 2004 law banning the wearing of Muslim head scarves at public schools sparked fierce debate. That legislation also banned Jewish skullcaps and large Christian crosses in public classrooms.

French lawmakers recently revived the issue of Muslim dress with a proposal that the burqa and other voluminous Muslim attire be banned.

President Nicolas Sarkozy, a conservative, backs the move, saying such garb makes women prisoners.

The "burquini" covers the arms to the wrists and the legs to the ankle and has a hood to cover neck and hair.

An official in charge of swimming pools for the Emerainville region, Daniel Guillaume, said the refusal to allow the local woman to swim in her "burquini" had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with public health standards.

"These clothes are used in public, so they can contain molecules, viruses, et cetera, which will go in the water and could be transmitted to other bathers," Guillaume said in a telephone interview.

"We reminded this woman that one should not bathe all dressed, just as we would tell someone who is a nudist not to bathe all naked," he said.

Guillaume said France's public health standards require all pool-goers to don swimsuits for women and tight, swimming briefs for men — and caps to cover their hair. Bathers also must shower before entering the water.

Guillaume said Carole had tried to file a complaint at a local police station, but her request was turned down as groundless.

Carole told the daily Le Parisien she would protest with the help of anti-discrimination groups.

Emerainville Mayor Alan Kelyor said he could not understand why the woman would want to swim in head-to-toe clothes.

"We are going back in civilization," he said by telephone. Women have fought for decades for equal rights with men, he said. "Now we are putting them back in burqas and veils."

The suits have a clear market.

Women "jump on the occasion so they can swim with their families. Otherwise, they end up staying on the beach and watching," said Leila Mouhoubia, who runs an online site from France that specializes in the sale of Islamic swimsuits. Sales, she said, are strong.

"I think it's forbidden (in France) because it presents an image of the Muslim woman (and) they have prejudices against Muslims," she said by telephone. "They want women to be undressed."

Mouloud Aounit, head of the anti-racism group known as MRAP, said the decision to ban Carole from the pool appeared fair, since pool authorities were observing regulations. But Aounit lamented that the incident was likely to fuel religious tensions.

"The rules must be the same for everybody, regardless of the color of their skin or their religion," Aounit said. "The concern I have is that this case will again lead to stigmatization of the Muslim population in France."

The all-body suits, worn regularly by some women in Muslim countries, are growing popular in the West. They can be seen on female Muslim lifeguards on Australian beaches, in the United States and various European countries, from the Netherlands to Sweden — which OKed them after two women won discrimination cases last year.

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Associated Press Writers Rod McGuirk in Sydney, Australia, Melissa Eddy in Berlin, Germany, Malin Rising in Stockholm, Sweden, Ian MacDougall in Oslo, Norway, and Toby Sterlin in Amsterdam, the Netherlands contributed to this report.

(This version CORRECTS headlines to "French pool" sted "Paris pool."

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Re: French pool bars Muslim bodybuiling woman for 'burquini' suit
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2009, 12:45:34 PM »
Praise Allah. The spineless Euro Cowards are finally standing up to the religion of Satan.

Lets see if they can stomach the terrorist backlash.

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Re: French pool bars Muslim bodybuiling woman for 'burquini' suit
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2009, 12:45:55 PM »
i bet when our women go to the middle east they have to adapt to their culture as well right?

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 12:49:43 PM »
i bet when our women go to the middle east they have to adapt to their culture as well right?

good question..I'll ask MAtt T...

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2009, 12:50:04 PM »
Great point.  Western people must adapt to the middle east when they go over, but when the situation is reversed and they go west it is a big deal if they are told to conform to the western civilization

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Re: French pool bars Muslim bodybuiling woman for 'burquini' suit
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 01:31:40 PM »
burn all these fucker and socialist that let them coming in my country. >:(

this bitch is french, "carole" but converted to islam, oh jesus !!!
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Re: French pool bars Muslim bodybuiling woman for 'burquini' suit
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2009, 04:37:02 PM »
Here in Sweden they have Muslim only nights at some swimming pool facilities.

Heard it from a buddy who went to the pool with his son, but in his words, they had "Halal-Bath night".

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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2009, 08:52:28 PM »
i bet when our women go to the middle east they have to adapt to their culture as well right?

QFT.

A friend of mine got "arrested" in the Emirates for kissing his wife goodbye.

Degenerates.

Dunno how you Euros do it, but in America this wouldn't fly more than 3 feet.


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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2009, 08:56:00 PM »

I support this 100%

And I was raised a Muslim.

Now an Ex-Muslim!

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2009, 09:17:46 PM »
QFT.

A friend of mine got "arrested" in the Emirates for kissing his wife goodbye.

Degenerates.

Dunno how you Euros do it, but in America this wouldn't fly more than 3 feet.



he should have read the board.  i already wrote mths back that you get 6 mths in jail for public affection including holding hands.   
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 09:22:50 PM »
I support this 100%

And I was raised a Muslim.

Now an Ex-Muslim!

Amen Brother. It's an honor to have you on the good side.

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 09:29:38 PM »
I support this 100%

And I was raised a Muslim.

Now an Ex-Muslim!

why ex?  did you divorce your husband?
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Re: French pool bars Muslim bodybuiling woman for 'burquini' suit
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2009, 10:19:28 PM »
QFT.

A friend of mine got "arrested" in the Emirates for kissing his wife goodbye.

Degenerates.

Dunno how you Euros do it, but in America this wouldn't fly more than 3 feet.

Sure dude.

That's why mexicans can get away with murder around here. Literally.

Americans will let anything fly these days.

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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2009, 11:47:12 PM »
its amazing how much women overthere walk around totally covered out of free will, why would a god prescribe such a retarted thing?

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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2009, 11:50:36 PM »
Americans will let anything fly these days.

I dont know what city/state you're in.  Lots of peer regulation in S Florida.  We don't have a problem with illegals.  they keep their heads down and are polite, for the most part.  Maybe in the rough part of town, they're worse I'm sure.  in redneck area, they STFU.  nothing a cracker redneck would love more than slamming some illegal to the ground with a .44 to his head until the law arrived.

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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2009, 12:22:44 AM »
Great point.  Western people must adapt to the middle east when they go over, but when the situation is reversed and they go west it is a big deal if they are told to conform to the western civilization

by adapting to the traditions of the middle east a female is asked to dress decently so she doesn't offend/seduce anyone. i don't think that a decent breast covering/crack hiding outfit will give her the claimed catastrophic mental damage as everyone is claiming.

on the other hand if a female decides to cover her hair and show her face then i don't see how anyone could be bothered with that, after all women wear hats don't they?

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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2009, 12:30:14 AM »
QFT.

A friend of mine got "arrested" in the Emirates for kissing his wife goodbye.

Degenerates.

Dunno how you Euros do it, but in America this wouldn't fly more than 3 feet.


a bit ironic. degenerates are the ones that go intimate in public.. caveman-esque.

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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2009, 12:34:05 AM »
non muslims are also prohibited to visit mecca while muslims can visit in Rome the hell they want.

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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2009, 12:39:17 AM »
non muslims are also prohibited to visit mecca while muslims can visit in Rome the hell they want.

and what would you want from mecca? no Muslim would complain if you banned them from Rome. for each his own.

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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2009, 12:40:16 AM »
well its one of the backwarded things.

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Re: French pool bars Muslim bodybuiling woman for 'burquini' suit
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2009, 12:42:26 AM »
and what would you want from mecca? no Muslim would complain if you banned them from Rome. for each his own.

Why would you not want to go to Rome?

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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2009, 12:44:58 AM »
Why would you not want to go to Rome?

if Christians decide to make Rome/Vatican a holy place for Christians only, as Muslims have mecca for Muslims only then so be it.

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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2009, 01:32:06 AM »
I can understand the standards for safety & hygiene, and I can also understand their mistaking some of the burquinis as streetwear, in that they do look rather similar, but it is still discriminatory. It's a swimsuit, ...and therefore logically would only be worn in the pool. I don't see how harmful bacteria or viruses would attach themselves if only worn in the pool. I'd think there'd be a greater risk of viral and/or bacteriological contamination by traditional swimsuits. How many people wear those in lieu of underwear on a regular basis?

It's an issue of power & control, ...pure & simple.
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2009, 03:10:25 AM »
burqa is in our civilized world a symbol of oppression, in our world man and woman are equal, that they still live overthere in the middle ages is their problem.

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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2009, 03:55:59 AM »
I can understand the standards for safety & hygiene, and I can also understand their mistaking some of the burquinis as streetwear, in that they do look rather similar, but it is still discriminatory. It's a swimsuit, ...and therefore logically would only be worn in the pool. I don't see how harmful bacteria or viruses would attach themselves if only worn in the pool. I'd think there'd be a greater risk of viral and/or bacteriological contamination by traditional swimsuits. How many people wear those in lieu of underwear on a regular basis?

It's an issue of power & control, ...pure & simple.

STFU crackhead nobody gave you the right to reply on this thread.