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"Secondary" effects of nolvadex?
« on: August 29, 2009, 04:28:58 AM »
I just realised that every single time i've used nolvadex, including now. I have noticed good effects, even though those effects haven't been the reason i took it. Mainly overall feeling of well being and significantly lowered bloodpressure...

So any of you guys notice any other "good feeligs" that you get from nolvadex?
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Re: "Secondary" effects of nolvadex?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2009, 05:43:02 AM »
I just realised that every single time i've used nolvadex, including now. I have noticed good effects, even though those effects haven't been the reason i took it. Mainly overall feeling of well being and significantly lowered bloodpressure...

So any of you guys notice any other "good feeligs" that you get from nolvadex?

Nolva can be benificial to your lipid profile.  Will admitt I always felt good when i used to use nolvadex on cycle, same feelings you describe.

This from "Big Cat"  may shed some more light on nolva.  Just love the last 2 sentences, it's so very true.

"Another noteworthy fact about Nolvadex is that it acts more potently as an estrogen in the liver. As you remember, I mentioned that clomiphene and tamoxifen are basically weak estrogens. Well, tamoxifen is apparently still quite potent in the liver. This offers us the positive benefits of this hormone in the liver, while avoiding its negative effects elsewhere in the body. As such Nolvadex can have a very positive impact on negative cholesterol levels2 in the body, and therefore too should be considered a better choice than clomid. It will not solve the problem of bad cholesterol levels during Steroid use, but will help to contain the problem to a larger degree.

Another reason why I promote the use of Nolvadex over Clomid post-cycle (as if being 3-4 times stronger and having more of a direct effect on restoring natural test wasn't enough) is because it's a lot safer. Not just because it improves lipid profiles, but also because it simply doesn't have the intrinsic side-effects that Clomid has. Clomid causes more acne for sure, but that's mainly because you need to use a 3-4 times higher dose. But Clomid seems to also affect the eyesight. Long-term clomid therapy causes irreversible changes in eyesight3 in users. Irreversible. For me that alone is reason enough to prefer Nolvadex.

Lastly, one should be aware that use of these compounds can reduce the gains made on steroids. Nolvadex more so than clomid, simply because it is stronger. Estrogen is responsible for a number of anabolic factors such as increasing growth hormone output, upgrading the androgen receptor and improving glucose utilization. This is why aromatizing steroids like testosterone are still best suited for maximum muscle gain. When reducing the estrogen levels, we therefore reduce the potential gains being made. For this reason one may opt to try clomid during a cycle instead of Nolvadex. Although I would imagine that the problem that needed solved would be of more concern, in which case Nolva remains the weapon of choice. It's a plain fact that there is a high correlation between gains and side-effects. Either you go for maximum gains and tolerate the side-effects, or you reduce the side-effects, and with it the gains. That's life, nothing is free."


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Re: "Secondary" effects of nolvadex?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2009, 06:21:56 AM »
Yeah, those two last sentences describe most if not everything in life...

As far as these things go, because of my size now i'm more concerned about my health than gains, because i gain very easily.
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Re: "Secondary" effects of nolvadex?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2009, 10:11:50 AM »
Either you go for maximum gains and tolerate the side-effects, or you reduce the side-effects, and with it the gains. That's life, nothing is free."



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