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Darren Avey

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Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« on: September 07, 2009, 01:05:24 PM »
and since starting to take 50mg a day ive also had aches all over,anyone else experience this?

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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2009, 01:41:54 PM »
Proviron will increase effectiveness of other steroids by binding to your SHBG, and increasing free testosterone.

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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2009, 04:14:06 PM »
proviron wont effect other steroids. but it is a steroid itself, so adding it in will boost you results, cause your adding in more steroid.



the free hormone hypothesis states that shbg (sex hormone binding gobulin) binds to free andorgens, and renders them unable to take action in the body. thus, accoring to the theory, only free adrogens are effective...and lower shbg is a good thing cause it results in more free test.

proviron reduces shbg, so people speculate its good for increasing free levels of other steroids.

however, ALL steroid reduce shbg, not just proviorn.

now with all that being said, the free hormone hypothesis is just that, a hpothesis, its very possible that another theory, "megalin induced expression of androgens" (or something like that).... oculd be true. this states that not only free, but also bouhnd andorgens can take action, through a rptoein called megalin that is present in shbg.

now, if the latter is true, that would mean not only is shbg not bad, but its actually good, because free hormones are metabolised and destroyed by the live very quickly...where as bound hormones are unable to be metabolised as quickly..mkenaing youll get more action from it.

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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2009, 05:15:57 PM »
What candi and 4th said.

Proviron is a weak androgen. It's inherent ability to lower SHBG is what is sought after. There is virtually no toxicity which means a big pay off.

Some people scoff at proviron but they're the same boneheads that jump up to a gram of androgens after their first cycle. More mg doesn't always mean more results. Use smarter, lower and more synergistic doses before hitting a large sum of androgens. I'm a few cycles in and using less than half a gram a week and I'm hard as fuck and feeling wonderful.

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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 12:55:11 AM »
Proviron is way overrated.  Some guys it works great others it doesn't do shit.  You should atleast be getting daily wood all the time.  I don't really feel any different on it and I've used legit schering at upwards of 100mgs a day.  But I don't respond very dramatically to most steroids in general unless I really up the dosages.  BUt I also don't suffer the side effects like most guys.

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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 04:57:32 PM »
Proviron is way overrated.  Some guys it works great others it doesn't do shit.  You should atleast be getting daily wood all the time.  I don't really feel any different on it and I've used legit schering at upwards of 100mgs a day.  But I don't respond very dramatically to most steroids in general unless I really up the dosages.  BUt I also don't suffer the side effects like most guys.

That's just your opinion. I've used UGL stuff, which is more than likely underdosed, and it felt like I doubled my steroid dose. Hits people differently. I think it's one of the most underrated steroids.

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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2009, 05:17:34 PM »
That's just your opinion. I've used UGL stuff, which is more than likely underdosed, and it felt like I doubled my steroid dose. Hits people differently. I think it's one of the most underrated steroids.

Isn't that what I fucking said genius?   >:(


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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 05:55:33 PM »
 For the ones like my self its def not underrated!

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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 06:41:51 PM »
A old ace here said milk thistle will reduce the effectiveness of gear.  He had many studies, never heard that of proviorn, really dont see the point of it any way.

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Re: Does proviron reduce the effectiveness of other steroids?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2009, 08:43:42 PM »
Isn't that what I fucking said genius?   >:(



LOL I don't disagree with you, but reading my post afterward I totally worded it wrong. Typed it on my iPhone so my grammer gets fucked up. My bad.

But yeah, some people feel shit all and some people think it's the shit. I personally think it's the shit. I've also got friends who've used legit human grade proviron and claim that it's close to worthless. More proviron for meee 8)