Whats strong for a standing military press?

[Ursus]

ss as in superstar billygram? lol no way he can do 20 reps with 225... dude is cool and all, but he aint strong like that...

and maybe i couldnt rep it, but for world class powerlifters, 225 is a walk in the park.

What ROM Tbombz with 225? Clavicle to lockout on seated presses?

[tbombz]

No genius, SS that posts on here and moderates the Y forum.  Maybe if you keep saying its easy, it will become so.

yes, that is superstarbillygram. i guess he used that name before you came to getbig. no he doesnt lift that much, at least not the last pics i saw of him. 

i dont mean to say its easy for just anybody,  just that it would be easy for a world class powerflifter

heres some random off of utube=

What ROM Tbombz with 225? Clavicle to lockout on seated presses?

yeah. i havent done them in a few months though, i only use dumbells and a smith machine, because the military press at the gym ive been going to is set too far back so i cant get it off the rack when its loaded up heavy. with the smith ill do Behind the neck press with 225 for sets of 12, and ill do 110 dumbell press for sets of 10.

[Ursus]

If you do that seated for 10 im sure you could do 225lbs x 1 standing. Espec with 110lbers x 10 DB presses

[BigNickMarshall]

yes, that is superstarbillygram. i guess he used that name before you came to getbig. no he doesnt lift that much, at least not the last pics i saw of him. 

i dont mean to say its easy for just anybody,  just that it would be easy for a world class powerflifter

heres some random off of utube=

yeah. i havent done them in a few months though, i only use dumbells and a smith machine, because the military press at the gym ive been going to is set too far back so i cant get it off the rack when its loaded up heavy. with the smith ill do Behind the neck press with 225 for sets of 12, and ill do 110 dumbell press for sets of 10.

Yeah superstarbillygram of the forums.  Not superstar billy graham the wrestler.  And yeah, the SS that posts here can do that.  I've seen him.  We trained together for about 5 years.  Superstar Billy Graham also trained at the same gym with us.  The gym was Get Serious in Phoenix.

[tbombz]

Yeah superstarbillygram of the forums.  Not superstar billy graham the wrestler.  And yeah, the SS that posts here can do that.  I've seen him.  We trained together for about 5 years.  Superstar Billy Graham also trained at the same gym with us.  The gym was Get Serious in Phoenix.

las picture i saw of him he was in a sleeveless eating a sandwich in a front room of a house and theeir was a window open facing the street... he was a bigger than average guy, looked like a biker, but it didnt look muscular or powerful.

[Ursus]

That video is NOT a military press but damn impressive nevertheless!

[BigNickMarshall]

If you do that seated for 10 im sure you could do 225lbs x 1 standing. Espec with 110lbers x 10 DB presses

Seated and standing have little correlation in pressing.  Its much easier to press when you can brace against something and push than when your core has to support you.  Try squatting as much as you can leg press.  

[BigNickMarshall]

las picture i saw of him he was in a sleeveless eating a sandwich in a front room of a house and theeir was a window open facing the street... he was a bigger than average guy, looked like a biker, but it didnt look muscular or powerful.

His weight stays between 255-265 and he is a hell of a lot bigger than an average guy.

[Ursus]

Seated and standing have little correlation in pressing.  Its much easier to press when you can brace against something and push than when your core has to support you.  Try squatting as much as you can leg press.  

Im basing it on experience. I dont know anyone who can press 110lbers easily and NOT at least have a good stab at 225

[BigNickMarshall]

Just so you know the difference, you keep posting push press videos.  To give you an example of the difference, the same SS that can do 225 for a few perfect military presses can do at least 275 if he loosens up his form a little and probably 315 on a push press.

[BigNickMarshall]

Im basing it on experience. I dont know anyone who can press 110lbers easily and NOT at least have a good stab at 225

I don't either if we're talking about standing.  I would say that anyone that can do 110lbers standing can definitely do 225 standing.  But there is no way in hell he does 110lbers for 10 standing but can only do 225 for 10 seated.

[Ursus]

I can throw 225 about and I think I would struggle for 110's x 10 seated never mind 110'sx10 standing

[BigNickMarshall]

I can throw 225 about and I think I would struggle for 110's x 10 seated never mind 110'sx10 standing

That was my point.  Dumbells are much harder.  The guy said he can do 225 for 10 seated.  He also said he can do 110s for 10.  There is no way that is true. 

[Ursus]

Less ROM with DB's - a few less inches on a shoulder press - particularly the lower portion of teh lift is a BIG difference

[BigNickMarshall]

Less ROM with DB's - a few less inches on a shoulder press - particularly the lower portion of teh lift is a BIG difference

I don't know if you're agreeing or not.  You just said you can do 225 easily, but would struggle with 110s.  Now it sounds like you're saying dumbells are easier because there is less ROM.  Either way, I'm tired of this discussion.  People came on this thread, named "Whats strong for a standing military press?"  and posted how easy it is to do 225.  I said they were full of shit, and the longer the thread goes on, the more apparent it is that the people saying its easy don't even DO military presses. 

[BB]

My lord, you man beasts with your big Clean and Presses.

Check out the records for that lift at the link below for years 1972 and earlier:

http://www.lifttilyadie.com/

Note that a steriod era record class lift for the big men was only 120 to 140% of bodyweight. The smaller classes were around 150-160% of bodyweight. That's with Steriods, day in, day out training, etc.....

Also look at the pre-steriod era record lifts.

[BigNickMarshall]

My lord, you man beasts with your big Clean and Presses.

Check out the records for that lift at the link below for years 1972 and earlier:

http://www.lifttilyadie.com/

Note that a steriod era record class lift for the big men was only 120 to 140% of bodyweight. The smaller classes were around 150-160% of bodyweight. That's with Steriods, day in, day out training, etc.....

Also look at the pre-steriod era record lifts.

Careful, you'll have everyone jumping on you and telling you how they can do 315 for 12, or 405 for 1 while on the phone or 615 while wiping up after a three burrito ass explosion.

[#1 Klaus fan]

Then why did he just post asking where did he ever say he could do it standing.  As I said earlier, SS and I trained in a hardcore powerlifting gym.  Several of the guys there have records, some of them world records.  Pat Holloway is one with an 815 deadlift.  I saw two of them do more than 225 in a strict military press.  So I guess we disagree that 225 is peanuts.

I agree. Lets also remember not all powerlifters are fat. Many smaller lifters would have to press near 1.5x bodyweight to get 225. So it can't be said it's easy for all of them.

[tbombz]

That was my point.  Dumbells are much harder.  The guy said he can do 225 for 10 seated.  He also said he can do 110s for 10.  There is no way that is true. 

i said i could do 110's for 10 seated. not standing.

[noworries]

Yeah superstarbillygram of the forums.  Not superstar billy graham the wrestler.  And yeah, the SS that posts here can do that.  I've seen him.  We trained together for about 5 years.  Superstar Billy Graham also trained at the same gym with us.  The gym was Get Serious in Phoenix.

Yea sure he did and sure you did.  We believe you.  Big mouth from a newbie.  Hey here is a news flash because you stand around in a gym where guys are training does not make you strong.  

And I would more believe that Tbombz can lift what he says cause at least he trains.  You got guys like you, SS, Swede who probably don't train at all.  I am sure Swede goes to the gym but thats to look at guys like Johnnynobrain

[noworries]

You mean other than the title of the thread?  As in "Whats strong for a standing military press?"  Where do you think the term MILITARY press comes from?  Its called that because the original lift in the Olympics was done standing perfectly straight with feet together like the MILITARY position of attention.  One of us is stupid all right.  Its okay though, you're stupid, but at least you're fat.

Wow you are one dumb guy.  Are you related to Goodrum.  Like I said where does it say I said standing.  Show it to me twink.  Come on moron I have proved you wrong again cause I not once said standing in fact I think somewhere I said I can't do it standing.  I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.  Now wipe off your tears and be a fucking man.  Own up to your ignorance and be gone.  you are another person who tries to fit in where he doesn't belong.  Where do you pathetic wannabes come from.

By the way post a pic of yourself.  And show one at least you in a gym. 

[11venthhour]

By the way post a pic of yourself.  And show one at least you in a gym. 

i think you are supossed to add (no homo) to the end of that

[The Showstoppa]

Tbombz are you calling out SS?  You said he didn't look "muscular or powerful" right? 

[chaos]

Tbombz are you calling out SS?  You said he didn't look "muscular or powerful" right? 

Careful tdongz dad rides with HA!!

[The Showstoppa]

Careful tdongz dad rides with HA!!

HA surely means, Honda Aces, right?