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Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« on: November 16, 2009, 10:41:39 AM »
Gun rights supporters are up in arms over a pair of moves the White House made last month to reverse longstanding U.S. policy and begin negotiating a gun control treaty with the United Nations.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton first announced on Oct. 14 that the U.S. had changed its stance and would support negotiations of an Arms Trade Treaty to regulate international gun trafficking, a measure the Bush administration and, notably, former Permanent U.S. Representative to the United Nations John Bolton opposed for years.

Two weeks ago, in another reversal of policy, the U.S. joined a nearly unanimous 153-1 U.N. vote to adopt a resolution setting out a timetable on the proposed Arms Trade Treaty, including a U.N. conference to produce a final accord in 2012.

"Conventional arms transfers are a crucial national security concern for the United States, and we have always supported effective action to control the international transfer of arms," Clinton said in a statement. "The United States is prepared to work hard for a strong international standard in this area."

Gun rights advocates, however, are calling the reversal both a dangerous submission of America's Constitution to international governance and an attempt by the Obama administration to sneak into effect private gun control laws it couldn't pass through Congress.

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Bolton, for example, told Ginny Simone, managing editor of the National Rifle Association's NRA News and host of the NRA's Daily News program, "The administration is trying to act as though this is really just a treaty about international arms trade between nation states, but there's no doubt – as was the case back over a decade ago – that the real agenda here is domestic firearms control."

He continued, "There's never been any doubt when these groups talk about saying they only want to prohibit illicit international trafficking in small arms and light weapons, it begs the whole question of what's legal and what's not legal. And many of the implications of these treaty negotiations are very much in their domestic application. So, whatever the appearance on the surface, there's no doubt that domestic firearm control is right at the top of their agenda."

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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 10:44:47 AM »
Gun rights supporters are up in arms over a pair of moves the White House made last month to reverse longstanding U.S. policy and begin negotiating a gun control treaty with the United Nations.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton first announced on Oct. 14 that the U.S. had changed its stance and would support negotiations of an Arms Trade Treaty to regulate international gun trafficking, a measure the Bush administration and, notably, former Permanent U.S. Representative to the United Nations John Bolton opposed for years.

Two weeks ago, in another reversal of policy, the U.S. joined a nearly unanimous 153-1 U.N. vote to adopt a resolution setting out a timetable on the proposed Arms Trade Treaty, including a U.N. conference to produce a final accord in 2012.

"Conventional arms transfers are a crucial national security concern for the United States, and we have always supported effective action to control the international transfer of arms," Clinton said in a statement. "The United States is prepared to work hard for a strong international standard in this area."

Gun rights advocates, however, are calling the reversal both a dangerous submission of America's Constitution to international governance and an attempt by the Obama administration to sneak into effect private gun control laws it couldn't pass through Congress.

'Shooting Back' tells of lives saved from attackers. Learn the Bible's defense of bearing arms from a man who defended his church from terrorists

Bolton, for example, told Ginny Simone, managing editor of the National Rifle Association's NRA News and host of the NRA's Daily News program, "The administration is trying to act as though this is really just a treaty about international arms trade between nation states, but there's no doubt – as was the case back over a decade ago – that the real agenda here is domestic firearms control."

He continued, "There's never been any doubt when these groups talk about saying they only want to prohibit illicit international trafficking in small arms and light weapons, it begs the whole question of what's legal and what's not legal. And many of the implications of these treaty negotiations are very much in their domestic application. So, whatever the appearance on the surface, there's no doubt that domestic firearm control is right at the top of their agenda."

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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 10:46:59 AM »
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."

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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 10:48:13 AM »
Exactly what I was gonna say...blue berets beware we're not Africa refugee's.
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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 10:49:19 AM »
I seriously pray for the day the communists like Obama overplay their hand. 


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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 11:03:21 AM »
Its coming...oh yeah we're all CT nuts..unlike UFO's and Bigfoot..we have Barry!
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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 11:05:22 AM »
Its coming...oh yeah we're all CT nuts..unlike UFO's and Bigfoot..we have Barry!

HH6 - i know you cant divulge too much, but do people from within realize the garbage this admn is doing on so many levels? 

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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 11:05:31 AM »
Did you guys even read this?

It's about ARMS TRADE!!

You know... The US Selling Arms to other country.

Are you guys insane?

This isn't about gun control in the US.

You know... Republicans are too mad... Democrats are too happy.

You're all idiots.

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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 11:12:26 AM »
Interesting, but it seems to me they should be talking the Russians, I don't see alot of M-16's being used by the bad guys. It seems the AK-47 is the weapon of choice
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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 11:17:35 AM »
Interesting, but it seems to me they should be talking the Russians, I don't see alot of M-16's being used by the bad guys. It seems the AK-47 is the weapon of choice

I agree... And that's because the AK is a great fucking weapon... However, to your point, I agree... Even talking to us is a waste on this front, we are not supplying weapons, go talk to the real arms dealers.

We got nothing.

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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 11:20:17 AM »
I agree... And that's because the AK is a great fucking weapon... However, to your point, I agree... Even talking to us is a waste on this front, we are not supplying weapons, go talk to the real arms dealers.

We got nothing.


Actually, prefer my AR at the range tot he AK.     

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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 11:31:34 AM »
HH6 - i know you cant divulge too much, but do people from within realize the garbage this admn is doing on so many levels? 

Of course....he got some votes from the military and the Left will try and tell u that we love him but most can't stand him. I have n't met to many white officers that voted for him..one actually.
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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 11:50:21 AM »
Did you guys even read this?

It's about ARMS TRADE!!

You know... The US Selling Arms to other country.

Are you guys insane?

This isn't about gun control in the US.

You know... Republicans are too mad... Democrats are too happy.

You're all idiots.

A treaty with the UN still opens a door that shouldn't be opened...period. 

Like you said...we're not the problem.  So why even talk to us?  This is an underhanded approach to regulate our rights.  It very well may be the beginning.

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Re: Obama revives talk of U.N. gun control
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 11:51:25 AM »
Yup......
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