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« on: November 25, 2009, 07:02:54 AM »
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125915500754163841.html

By LUCA DI LEO and JEFF BATER

Consumer spending and incomes rose in October, while initial jobless claims fell under 500,000 last week to the lowest level since September of 2008, boding well for economic growth in the fourth quarter.

But demand for long-lasting goods unexpectedly fell in October, brought down by the defense sector, and a barometer of capital spending by businesses tumbled in another sign of the recovery's sluggishness.

Commerce Department data Wednesday showed spending last month rose by 0.7% compared with a September decline of 0.6%, while personal income rose by 0.2% for the second straight month.

Meantime, a key gauge of prices that is closely watched by the U.S. Federal Reserve to set monetary policy reiterated inflation wasn't a threat as the economy recovers slowly.

The core price index for personal consumption expenditures, which excludes volatile food and energy, rose a monthly 0.2% in October and by 1.4% year-on-year.

Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires had forecast consumer spending would rise by 0.6% in October while income would increase by 0.1%. The core PCE index was seen rising by a monthly 0.1%.

The U.S. economy's rebound was softer than originally thought in the third quarter, the government said Tuesday in a revision to its gross domestic product estimate which showed less consumer spending than initially estimated.

U.S. GDP -- the broadest measure of output of goods and services -- grew at a 2.8% annual rate during the July to September period, less than the 3.5% rate calculated by the Commerce Department a month ago.

Consumer spending, which accounts for 70% of U.S. economic output, increased at a 2.9% annual rate during the third quarter -- less than the 3.4% estimated previously.

Wednesday's report was an encouraging sign for growth in the fourth quarter, since both consumer spending and incomes rose by more than expected in October.

Economists currently expect slightly better economic growth in the fourth quarter compared to the previous three months. One prominent forecaster, Macroeconomic Advisers, predicts GDP growth of 3.1%.

Personal income data for the previous months was revised up slightly. It rose by 0.2% in September and by 0.3% in August, the report showed, compared to previous estimates of a flat reading in September and a 0.1% increase the previous month.

Still, with more than 10% of the U.S. labor force out of work, the rise in incomes remains moderate.

Federal Reserve officials earlier this month raised their expectations for growth this year and in 2010, but predicted the recovery will be so slow that unemployment will remain high and inflation low until the end of next year.

As for price gauges in Wednesday's report, the price index for personal consumption expenditures excluding food and energy, year over year, rose 1.4%. The year-over-year gain in September was 1.3%.

The Fed watches this core PCE index closely for signs of inflation pressures. Fed officials see core inflation around 1.45% in 2009, 1.25% in 2010, and 1.3% in 2011.

On a monthly basis, Wednesday's report showed the core PCE index increased 0.2% in October compared to a 0.1% increase in September.

The PCE price index including food and energy prices rose 0.3% in October compared to September. It rose a monthly 0.1% in September. Year over year, the PCE price index was up 0.2% in October after falling 0.6% in September.

Jobless Claims Drop
In a glimmer of hope for the labor market, the number of U.S. workers filing new claims for jobless benefits last week fell to the lowest level since September of 2008. Total claims lasting more than one week, meanwhile, also decreased.

Initial claims for jobless benefits declined by 35,000 to 466,000 in the week ended Nov. 21, the Labor Department said in its weekly report Wednesday. The previous week's level was revised to 501,000 from 505,000. This represents the lowest figure for claims since September 13, 2008 and it is the first time initial claims have fallen below the 500,000 mark since early January, according to Labor Department data.

Last week's initial claims fell by more than economists expected. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires had predicted a decrease of 10,000 claims.

The four-week moving average of new claims, which aims to smooth volatility in the data, also fell by 16,500 to 496,500 from the previous week's revised average of 513,000. That is the lowest figure since November 8, 2008.

Economists widely expected initial claims would fall in Wednesday's report, and some believe that this the break away from the 500,000 mark will be sustained in the weeks to come.

"Taken as a whole, the labor market data for the US is suggesting we are in a gradual, steady improvement towards job growth at some point over the next three to six months and the decline in jobless claims is consistent with that," said Zach Pandl, an economist at Nomura Global Economics. "The trend has been very persistent since the end of August and we are expecting that to continue."

In the Labor Department's Wednesday report, the number of continuing claims -- those drawn by workers for more than one week in the week ended Nov. 14 -- declined by 190,000 to 5,423,000 from the preceding week's revised level of 5,613,000.

The unemployment rate for workers with unemployment insurance for the week ended Nov. 14 was 4.1%, a decrease of a 0.2 percentage point from the prior week's unrevised rate of 4.3%.

The largest increase in initial claims for the week ended Nov. 14 was in Florida due to layoffs in the construction, trade, service and manufacturing sectors. The largest decrease in initial claims occurred in California.

Jobless claims data is normally released by the Labor Department on Thursdays, but this week it came out a day early due to the Thanksgiving holiday.

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 07:05:37 AM »
there are many mustard seeds in that article..

As much as Some of you conservative can't believe, some things are actually getting better since the Anti_christ- George bush left..

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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 07:12:58 AM »
The U.S. economy's rebound was softer than originally thought in the third quarter, the government said Tuesday in a revision to its gross domestic product estimate which showed less consumer spending than initially estimated

This statement alone shows how these "statistics" are made up by Obama supporters.

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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 07:16:47 AM »
The U.S. economy's rebound was softer than originally thought in the third quarter, the government said Tuesday in a revision to its gross domestic product estimate which showed less consumer spending than initially estimated

This statement alone shows how these "statistics" are made up by Obama supporters.

Billy what was GDP in the 4th quarter of 09?


So if i recall correctly, any positive growth is a a recovery. 8)

However, job growth has exactly been robust thus far.

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 07:18:28 AM »
Billy what was GDP in the 4th quarter of 09?


So if i recall correctly, any positive growth is a a recovery. 8)

THIS IS WHY - THERE IS NOTHING TO THANK HIM FOR. 


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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 07:22:12 AM »
THIS IS WHY - THERE IS NOTHING TO THANK HIM FOR.  



talk about a chart that is not drawn to scale... ;D


i'm going to find at least 1000 or so positive economic articles and start threads about them...

I'm going to make the entire board feel great about the prospects of america

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 07:29:33 AM »
Angelina Jolie: No Fan of Obama?
by Big Hollywood


Could this be true?

Barack Obama does not have Angelina Jolie’s seal of approval.

“She hates him,” a source close to the U.N. goodwill ambassador, 34, tells the new issue of Us Weekly (on newsstands now).

“She’s into education and rehabilitation and thinks Obama is all about welfare and handouts. She thinks Obama is really a socialist in disguise,” adds the source.

But don’t expect to see the Salt actress rally against Democrats on Fox News like her staunch Republican father, Jon Voight.

“Angie isn’t Republican, but she thinks Obama is all smoke and mirrors,” the source says.


Could this be some kind of watershed moment where one of Hollywood’s most popular and beautiful stars, an Academy Award winner, no longer fears retribution from the Hollywood Left for saying such things … out loud?

Wouldn’t be the first time Jolie went against the leftist grain. In February of 2008, when most of her Hollywood colleagues called for abandoning the Iraqi people — Cambodian Holocaust 2: The Middle East – this breath of mature, compassionate air appeared in the Washington Post.


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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 07:32:17 AM »
Angelina Jolie: No Fan of Obama?
by Big Hollywood


Could this be true?

Barack Obama does not have Angelina Jolie’s seal of approval.

“She hates him,” a source close to the U.N. goodwill ambassador, 34, tells the new issue of Us Weekly (on newsstands now).

“She’s into education and rehabilitation and thinks Obama is all about welfare and handouts. She thinks Obama is really a socialist in disguise,” adds the source.

But don’t expect to see the Salt actress rally against Democrats on Fox News like her staunch Republican father, Jon Voight.

“Angie isn’t Republican, but she thinks Obama is all smoke and mirrors,” the source says.


Could this be some kind of watershed moment where one of Hollywood’s most popular and beautiful stars, an Academy Award winner, no longer fears retribution from the Hollywood Left for saying such things … out loud?

Wouldn’t be the first time Jolie went against the leftist grain. In February of 2008, when most of her Hollywood colleagues called for abandoning the Iraqi people — Cambodian Holocaust 2: The Middle East – this breath of mature, compassionate air appeared in the Washington Post.



She's just a dumb Whore..What does she know about the problems that the middle class here in america are having??

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Re: thanks obama...
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 07:33:37 AM »
there are many mustard seeds in that article..

As much as Some of you conservative can't believe, some things are actually getting better since the Anti_christ- George bush left..

I'm sorry!! When was unemployment over 10% during the Bush years, again?

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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 07:36:05 AM »
She's just a dumb Whore..What does she know about the problems that the middle class here in america are having??

About the same amount as the millionaire/billionaire marxists in the WH. 

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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 07:41:12 AM »
She's just a dumb Whore..What does she know about the problems that the middle class here in america are having??

Are the Hollywood startlets who fawn all over Obama now "dumb whores" as well? Or does that tag simply fall on non-Obama worshippers?

And, by the way, why are you bellyaching about 333386 being a racist, while you make comments like this? Last time I checked, left-wingers aren't all that keen on sexist comments either (which is what your comment on Jolie appears to be).

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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2009, 07:46:10 AM »
I'm sorry!! When was unemployment over 10% during the Bush years, again?

What about the negative 6% GDP growth in the fourth quarter of 08..

Yes, Obama inherited a fucking mess.. 8)


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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2009, 07:48:35 AM »
What about the negative 6% GDP growth in the fourth quarter of 08..

Yes, Obama inherited a fucking mess.. 8)



Oh I guess he wasn't in the Senate in '08 ::), you fucking libs are so stupid you don't even know how the government works.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 07:50:30 AM »
What about the negative 6% GDP growth in the fourth quarter of 08..

Yes, Obama inherited a fucking mess.. 8)



He voted for every budget.

He campaigned for the job.

He campaigned for TARP.

He promoted the CRA and actually sued banks for them to do more bogus lending to unqualified applicants.

He put Geithner, Summers, and the rest of the wall streert gang responsible for the meltdown as his economic team.


So cry me a river with your poor Obama routine. 

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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 07:52:42 AM »
What about the negative 6% GDP growth in the fourth quarter of 08..

Yes, Obama inherited a fucking mess.. 8)



And, he's made that mess FAR GREATER, courtesy of his bone-headed policies. Unemployment has jumped more in year Obama's been running things than it ever did, during Bush's tenure. This jobless plight is squarely on his shoulders.

Sorry, Nicky, but the "Blame Bush" dog don't hunt no more.


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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2009, 07:55:32 AM »
Oh I guess he wasn't in the Senate in '08 ::), you fucking libs are so stupid you don't even know how the government works.

Well, i guess it's good that you do know how the government works...Which is good, cause the government is about to get a lot bigger, just to clean up the mess during the "anti-christ bush debacle"..

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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2009, 07:57:00 AM »
Well, i guess it's good that you do know how the government works...Which is good, cause the government is about to get a lot bigger, just to clean up the mess during the "anti-christ bush debacle"..


Again, when was unemployment over 10% during the "Anti-Christ Bush Debacle"?

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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2009, 07:57:29 AM »
And, he's made that mess FAR GREATER, courtesy of his bone-headed policies. Unemployment has jumped more in year Obama's been running things than it ever did, during Bush's tenure. This jobless plight is squarely on his shoulders.

Sorry, Nicky, but the "Blame Bush" dog don't hunt no more.



i wonder if Mccain was elected today..Where would unemployment be?  Exactly where it is today...Maybe would would have a deviation of 1/10 of 1%..

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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2009, 07:57:56 AM »
What about the negative 6% GDP growth in the fourth quarter of 08..

Yes, Obama inherited a fucking mess.. 8)



Nicky check out this 2007 post by that stock guy Neuro. Dude not only predicted the market collaspe, but look where he places the blame.  ;D




bush has systematically destroyed this country financially.

our country is heading for a severe recession as a result of his failed policies.

in the coming months, the stock market will come crashing down. mark my words.

cash is king !



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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2009, 07:58:50 AM »
i wonder if Mccain was elected today..Where would unemployment be?  Exactly where it is today...Maybe would would have a deviation of 1/10 of 1%..

You cant make that claim.  Maybe businesses would not be pretrified of higher health and energy taxes looming and would have held on to employees for a long period of time.   

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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2009, 07:59:14 AM »
Well, i guess it's good that you do know how the government works...Which is good, cause the government is about to get a lot bigger, just to clean up the mess during the "anti-christ bush debacle"..


You are the exact reason why this country is going to hell in a hand basket, you welcome big government, but then again your a moron
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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 07:59:50 AM »
You cant make that claim.  Maybe businesses would not be pretrified of higher health and energy taxes looming and would have held on to employees for a long period of time.   

i can make that claim..

Until proven wrong... :o

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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2009, 08:01:09 AM »
i wonder if Mccain was elected today..Where would unemployment be?  Exactly where it is today...Maybe would would have a deviation of 1/10 of 1%..

But it IS over 10%, as a DIRECT RESULT of Obama's stupid stimulus, which was supposed to keep unemployment under 8%.

Quit trying to pass the buck to Bush and/or McCain and deal with the facts at hand.

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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2009, 08:03:17 AM »
But it IS over 10%, as a DIRECT RESULT of Obama's stupid stimulus, which was supposed to keep unemployment under 8%.

Quit trying to pass the buck to Bush and/or McCain and deal with the facts at hand.

if i recall correctly the billshit bill passed while the anti-Christ (george-bush) was in office???

yes, no

and hammering hank was running the SEC

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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2009, 08:04:59 AM »
Nicky check out this 2007 post by that stock guy Neuro. Dude not only predicted the market collaspe, but look where he places the blame.  ;D




That is just the tip of the iceberg, if you would do a little research, you would know that the government has systematically been fucking up the US economy since FDR was in office.
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