What is the best FORM/ESTER of test?

[Marlo Stanfield]

i know that "test is test", but there are differences between them.

1) which one do you like best and why?

2) which one gives the least bloat / leanest gains? ( i know that diet is the key...)

[R.A.M.]

1.) test e longer ester means fewer shots

2.) test prop cause me the least bloat than the others.

[Overload]

1) The cheapest human grade that is rarely faked. Geofman, Pliva, etc.

2) Prop does seem to give less bloat to the majority who used it, but i honestly couldn't tell a difference.

[Marlo Stanfield]

1) The cheapest human grade that is rarely faked. Geofman, Pliva, etc.

2) Prop does seem to give less bloat to the majority who used it, but i honestly couldn't tell a difference.

is it true prop hurts more than all of them? and if all of them ar ethe same, why would someone take prop EOD instead of Enth once every 5-7 days? is the "stable blood levels" that significant that you'll see less results with Enth?

[Overload]

is it true prop hurts more than all of them? and if all of them ar ethe same, why would someone take prop EOD instead of Enth once every 5-7 days? is the "stable blood levels" that significant that you'll see less results with Enth?

It does seem to be more painful than the longer esters.

You need to shoot Prop ED or EOD because it has such a short halflife compared to E or C.

[g101]

pliva is hg and gh15 approved  pretty cheap too along with geofman

[Marlo Stanfield]

It does seem to be more painful than the longer esters.

You need to shoot Prop ED or EOD because it has such a short halflife compared to E or C.

i kno that,my question is that  if all testosterones are the same, why would someone choose to stick themselves ED or EOD on Prop instead of every 10-14 days on Sust

[jayfromeurope]

i kno that,my question is that  if all testosterones are the same, why would someone choose to stick themselves ED or EOD on Prop instead of every 10-14 days on Sust

If I'm not wrong shooting ED is good for keeping a stable test blood level.

[Marlo Stanfield]

If I'm not wrong shooting ED is good for keeping a stable test blood level.

But if you time your injections based on the half life, it doesnt matter how often you inject, you can still have stable blood levels

[jtsunami]

test e

[Luv2Hurt]

i kno that,my question is that  if all testosterones are the same, why would someone choose to stick themselves ED or EOD on Prop instead of every 10-14 days on Sust

Because test prop as mentioned may cause less bloat.  Test prop will start working and can be stopped very quickly, it can be controlled better.  You never know where your blood levels are if you shoot as you mentioned "sust every 10-14 days" who knows what is going on there??  Test prop you know exactly where you are at.  Test prop seems to come on with a stronger effect, which makes sense faster acting, bigger bang.  If you use lets say 100-150mg test prop ED you will have the full benefit of testosterone, you will feel jacked and aggressive.  And if things go wrong, lets say you start to develop gyno or some other nasty side the test p can be dropped and out of your system in days as compared to weeks or months.

[MuscleMcMannus]

My top two favorite drugs of all time are test prop and nandrolone phenylprop.  The latter blows EQ out of the water. 

[Marlo Stanfield]

Because test prop as mentioned may cause less bloat.  Test prop will start working and can be stopped very quickly, it can be controlled better.  You never know where your blood levels are if you shoot as you mentioned "sust every 10-14 days" who knows what is going on there??  Test prop you know exactly where you are at.  Test prop seems to come on with a stronger effect, which makes sense faster acting, bigger bang.  If you use lets say 100-150mg test prop ED you will have the full benefit of testosterone, you will feel jacked and aggressive.  And if things go wrong, lets say you start to develop gyno or some other nasty side the test p can be dropped and out of your system in days as compared to weeks or months.

thanks man, that makes sense. i didnt think of it like that.

[Rimbaud]

i know that "test is test", but there are differences between them.

1) which one do you like best and why?

2) which one gives the least bloat / leanest gains? ( i know that diet is the key...)

1. Test C or E.
2. Bloat & leans gains can depends on diet as well as the ester. & it could also depend on your own personal reaction - for example only my face tends to "blow up".

[ChristopherA]

Because test prop as mentioned may cause less bloat.  Test prop will start working and can be stopped very quickly, it can be controlled better.  You never know where your blood levels are if you shoot as you mentioned "sust every 10-14 days" who knows what is going on there??  Test prop you know exactly where you are at.  Test prop seems to come on with a stronger effect, which makes sense faster acting, bigger bang.  If you use lets say 100-150mg test prop ED you will have the full benefit of testosterone, you will feel jacked and aggressive.  And if things go wrong, lets say you start to develop gyno or some other nasty side the test p can be dropped and out of your system in days as compared to weeks or months.

Nice post. Prop fucking rules. I get no bloat when I am prone to it and feel superior. Doesnt hurt a bit.

[Captain Equipoise]

Injectable? Prop

all in all, for me.. test undecanoate (andriol)  I take 2 a day and feel like superman... nice gel caps from Organon

script from the doctor and covered by my health plan

for those that are gonna chime in and say 'ohhh it's not the same kind of big gains like en and cyp.'  that shit is 3/4 water gains, you can keep your moon face and size 38 pants

I think enanthate, cypionate and suspension are absolute garbage, they promote horrible water retention, I've tried pretty much every kind of cyp and en. (legit human grade) from the egyptian one, to the iranian one , to the Canadian pharmaceutical (delatestryl) it's all the same shit. WATER

[g101]

you wont have a moon face if stacking with ephedrine masteron arimidex

[jerseymuscles113]

you are a moron sayin its all water retention if you start to get bloat then take an ai or fix your diet and stop eating like a fatbody....if your gel caps work good for you then but Don.'t fill this board with stupid Shit like test e or cyp or suspension are no good cuz their the building block of any cycle how good you look depends on diet and training

[Captain Equipoise]

you are a moron sayin its all water retention if you start to get bloat then take an ai or fix your diet and stop eating like a fatbody....if your gel caps work good for you then but Don.'t fill this board with stupid Shit like test e or cyp or suspension are no good cuz their the building block of any cycle how good you look depends on diet and training

No Racism will be allowed


Test E/Cyp/Suspension is the worst for water - those are facts you can read in any book on steroids or medical abstract (if you knew what one is) there are much better choice out there, propionate being one of them. The sustanon 250 or 100 blend also being a better choice. AI's don't fix everything in a cycle you can still get water when taking ai's.

And just for curiosity, tell me what good is a product like Suspension these days, with the modern cycles and additives (like insulin and gh, mgf) we have now ?!!?? I'm waiting for your answer.

[jerseymuscles113]

to start with i'm not a guido i can't stand them.....and you have no argument your a moron you get bloat you take nolva and It cuts It right out....but no your right everyone should Jus take gh instead of test to avoid bloat....test has and will be the building block of aas's and one of the best hormones out there.....if you disagree i really Don.'t care go back to curlin with 20's an benchin one plate

[tstmaniac]

As far as water bloat I don't get much of a difference between each esther..

[Captain Equipoise]

to start with i'm not a guido i can't stand them.....and you have no argument your a moron you get bloat you take nolva and It cuts It right out....but no your right everyone should Jus take gh instead of test to avoid bloat....Fuckin idiot....test has and will be the building block of aas's and one of the best hormones out there.....if you disagree i really Don.'t care go back to curlin with 20's an benchin one plate dumbAss

Hahah, ok guido boy..keep ramming that suspension and pop 10 nolva's a day to keep your moon face down

Test is one of the best hormones and the building block of a good cycle, but it doesn't have to be shitty cyp, en. or suspension you retard. Shorter acting esters of test are much better, unless you're using them for HRT at low dosages.

[Luv2Hurt]

Test P is so simple and pretty easy to predict and control.  Down side more frequent injects.  Stuff comes on strong 100-150mg ED is the sweet spot.  Go right ahead also if you are inclined to mix E or C test with prop, works very well.  Guaranteed stable, big hormone levels.  Stuff will jack you up, just make sure and take enough.

[bigjd69]

Currently taking Cyp for HRT and have no issues with bloating!

[Luv2Hurt]

Currently taking Cyp for HRT and have no issues with bloating!

Sure, typical HRT doses are low.  This will not blow you up.

Test E is my favorite, cyp the same but a bit harder to find from a UGL.  E usually comes 250mg ml opposed to cyp 200mg ml.  the extra 50mg is nice in the E.

Prop is a pain in the ass literally LOL but is rocket fuel and has it's advantages and disadvantages.  Use it as a tool like anything else.  If you run test on a big diet lets say for a physique competition or something I would recommend test P.  To get ripped and thin skin to the point you meet BB competion standards will take a big ass diet and PLENTY of AIs.