coltrane if i dont workout guess what happens, i lose muscel. if i workout just a little bit and train like a pussy, guess what? i dont grow muscle.. but when i workout hard and eat consistant ..then i get results... im just guaranteeing myself that if i DO put in the effort, that i WILL get results. that is all. i was natural for 3 years and made tons of progress, but after about 6 months of eating nothign but protein and veggies and still not being rippped(and i wasnt fat at all to begin with), althe while doing am cardio everyday for 45 mins and trainign 7 4-5 days a week intensly......and still no clear lower abs and in a t shirt ih look like a tennis player or golfer?? no see i would like to get a little bit more reward for my effort than that