Good Natural

[The_Hammer]

Good conditioning and muscularity.

[Nap]

Nice to see AXA chaotic started hitting the weights!!!

[JasonH]

He looks like he's gonna pull a knife any moment.

[WingedLion]

not nattie ... that dude natural at that bodyfat would be very thin

[spinnis]

not nattie ... that dude natural at that bodyfat would be very thin

I think he is VERY thin actually, maby 140 at most

[EyeTeeGuy]

I think he is VERY thin actually, maby 140 at most

you have to remember you are responding to some dork that couldn't get a physique with a stocked pharmacia.

[garebear]

Is it possible to get that lean without drugs?

I've triend and tried and just can't get that ripped.

[WillGrant]

Thats not arce1988  ... ttt ped LLL

[Colossus3]

of course he is natural and he is thin. His conditioned muscle gives off illusion of him being bigger then he really is.

[spinnis]

Is it possible to get that lean without drugs?

I've triend and tried and just can't get that ripped.

you're not trying hard enough then =)

[garebear]

What kind of whiskey should I be drinking then?

[Mars]

ttt

[che]

not nattie ... that dude natural at that bodyfat would be very thin

 

[Mars]

if it has muscle its not natural.

[che]

''if it has muscle its not natural".
                                                Sevastase

Fixed

[Krankenstein]

''I am the measuring stick by which all that is, and is not, natural.  Therefore, if it has muscle its not natural".
                                                Sevastase

[mazrim]

He's 155 in that pic. That's one of his older ones (Kane Sumabat) taken in 2000.

[#1 Klaus fan]

I bet you guys would be amazed how little muscle mass you can have naturally in that condition.

[gordiano]

Yes...but it requires what some might call "sacrifice."  You got to be willing to diet for a long time, and also go a 'weeeeee' bit hungy during the day. 

What did your diet look like when you achieved this condition?

[JaggyShortBuff]

I had friend that looked kinda like this guy. My friend was natural and weighed about 140lbs. Ripped. When he stood by himself he was quite impressive, but put him next to a guy that weighed even 15lbs than him and he just looked ripped, but no impressive size.

[WillGrant]

At that point it was low carb, low fat, low calories...  AND... it isn't pleasant. 

The good thing is though, when you start to get very lean, you can see results almost daily with each morning you wake up, so it gives you motivation to keep going.  At the beginning of a diet there is a period where you are losing weight, but still look fat, and because of the lost weight you also start to look small and feel weak.  It's a bad feeling and hard to get past pyschologically.  If you push beyond though, then you start to look good again slowly but surely even though your strength continues to drop.

I weighed 175 lbs in those pics at 5'9.  I hope to surpass that weight the next time I diet down that far.

Did you chuck in a cheat day once the leaness started to show to help keep youe metabolism stoked and off balance ?

[JaggyShortBuff]

At that point it was low carb, low fat, low calories...  AND... it isn't pleasant. 

The good thing is though, when you start to get very lean, you can see results almost daily with each morning you wake up, so it gives you motivation to keep going.  At the beginning of a diet there is a period where you are losing weight, but still look fat, and because of the lost weight you also start to look small and feel weak.  It's a bad feeling and hard to get past pyschologically.  If you push beyond though, then you start to look good again slowly but surely even though your strength continues to drop.

I weighed 175 lbs in those pics at 5'9.  I hope to surpass that weight the next time I diet down that far.

Dude,  you look like an athlete thats all. you need to focus on balance if you want to bodybuild. I am a short guy and i could out mass you at any bodyfat. Props for the determination. the reason I say this is because you don't show your legs.

[JaggyShortBuff]

It's very possible you do outmass me.  I'm a lifetime natural.  Nothing special. 

I was natural up to about 200lbs . You do have balance though. I don't know what you plan on doing in the future, but with a little more mass you could kill at tested shows. that is if you have a back to match the rest of your developement

[arce1988]

 hahaha

[gordiano]

At that point it was low carb, low fat, low calories...  AND... it isn't pleasant. 

The good thing is though, when you start to get very lean, you can see results almost daily with each morning you wake up, so it gives you motivation to keep going.  At the beginning of a diet there is a period where you are losing weight, but still look fat, and because of the lost weight you also start to look small and feel weak.  It's a bad feeling and hard to get past pyschologically.  If you push beyond though, then you start to look good again slowly but surely even though your strength continues to drop.

I weighed 175 lbs in those pics at 5'9.  I hope to surpass that weight the next time I diet down that far.

Thanks for your reply. And props, I think you look great in those shots.