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Mark Levine calls Dick Durbin "Little Dick" Durbin, lol!

I wonder how he knows this 'fact' !?!    first hand / mouth experience?
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And, we STILL have no word from Boy Genius as to why TriCare is socialized healthcare.

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you'll be rip van winkle by the time he googles it...and tries to make an argument..
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you'll be rip van winkle by the time he googles it...and tries to make an argument..

The beard is starting to kick into gear. And, Boy Genius is MIA.

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Got more grey in my beard. Where's Boy Genius (The Luke) and his explanation about military health insurance being "socialized"?

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The Luke is obviously a moron.NOT ONCE in Jesus' life did he ever say "the government must take care of the poor" NOT ONCE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!He expected those with means to help the poor out of the goodness of their heart.Now,lets see,Obama and his tranny ,slump shouldered wife gave less then 1% of their income to charity,but he turns around and will call me selfish because I dont want the finthy government stealing my money and wasting it on foolish programs BUT I give 20% of my income to the poor.

...how Christian of you.


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...how Christian of you.


The Luke

Still waiting, Luke. Why is TriCare (military healthcare) "socialized"?

The Luke

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Still waiting, Luke. Why is TriCare (military healthcare) "socialized"?

...'cos the public pays for/subsidises it...?

What do you think "socialised" means?


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...'cos the public pays for/subsidises it...?

What do you think "socialised" means?


The Luke

The public only pays for THOSE WHO WORK FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. Once that cease to be the case, the public STOPS paying for vets' healthcare.

Your statement is that vets simply "fall back" on socialized healthcare. What they are doing is falling back on the healthcare that is part of their package, because THEY WORK for DoD: Active Duty, DoD civilian, Reserve, and Fleet Reserve ("Retired").

They don't get healthcare, simply for breathing.

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The public only pays for THOSE WHO WORK FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. Once that cease to be the case, the public STOPS paying for vets' healthcare.

Your statement is that vets simply "fall back" on socialized healthcare. What they are doing is falling back on the healthcare that is part of their package, because THEY WORK for DoD: Active Duty, DoD civilian, Reserve, and Fleet Reserve ("Retired").

They don't get healthcare, simply for breathing.

...so who funds the DoD?

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Wouldnt someone who has served his country in the military be a far different case then some lazy ass in Omas community who doesnt work,doesnt produce and is a parasite to those that do?

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...you don't seem to understand the definition of "socialised".

But isn't that the whole basis of this anti-Obama Teabagger backlash?

Ask yourself, what kind of healthcare would Jesus vote for.


The Luke

LIBERAL SOCIALISTS USING JESUS TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT = YOU LOSE!

I'm sure jesus would approve of partial birth abortion, gay marriage, death panels, rationing of old people based on community standards, stealing 50% and more of peoples' labor, all to fund this garbage. 

Luke  - face it, you lost this debate again, like every other one.   

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And lo, Jesus did lay his hands upon the leper, and did heal him.

Then Jesus asked the man whom he had healed: "So, what type of insurance do you have?"

To which the leper replied: "Jesus, I am a poor beggar... I have no insurance"

And Jesus did answer: "Well fuck you then. Healthcare is not a right. You should pay your own way. This needs to be sorted out by the free market".

And Jesus did smite the man with leprosy... and it was good.


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Well atleast you got one thing correct, healthcare is not a right.
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Well atleast you got one thing correct, healthcare is not a right.

Except for in the UN charter... and except for in the Geneva Convention... and except for POWs... and except for in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights... and except for in the Army Field Manual... and except for enemy combatants.

Well, George W Bush provided taxpayer-funded government-run free access universal socialised healthcare for the poor assholes being raped and tortured in Guantanamo Bay... but it seems the guys who voted for the naked child emperor don't think they deserve it.

So, is that the Palin-voter stance... "Our kids can do without, give that care to dem dere Al Quaeda!"

Morons.


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Except for in the UN charter... and except for in the Geneva Convention... and except for POWs... and except for in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights... and except for in the Army Field Manual... and except for enemy combatants.

Well, George W Bush provided taxpayer-funded government-run free access universal socialised healthcare for the poor assholes being raped and tortured in Guantanamo Bay... but it seems the guys who voted for the naked child emperor don't think they deserve it.

So, is that the Palin-voter stance... "Our kids can do without, give that care to dem dere Al Quaeda!"

Morons.


The Luke

And the only thing that matters to the US citizen is the US constitution, and no where does it way healthcare is a right. You always have to make some off the wall BS straw man argument and of course call people stupid, when in fact if you had a fucking clue, you would know that the federal government pushing this is unconstitutional. This is a decision to be made at the state level. And since you don't agree I can only say, well tuff shit.

And on top of that the only reason POW/Enemy combatants get medical treatment is because we expect our soldiers to be treated the same, in the case of the terrorist girls at gitmo, they can go fuck themselves.
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And the only thing that matters to the US citizen is the US constitution, and no where does it way healthcare is a right. You always have to make some off the wall BS straw man argument and of course call people stupid, when in fact if you had a fucking clue, you would know that the federal government pushing this is unconstitutional. This is a decision to be made at the state level. And since you don't agree I can only say, well tuff shit.

That's a weak argument...

Strict Constitutional adherence would eliminate about 98% of US law, for example:
-there's no mention of income tax in the Constitution;
-there's no mention of the Federal Reserve ("only Congress shall have the power to print/mint money");
-there's no mention of an army (the word "militia" is used in the Second Amendment)
-there's no mention of a space program (it was the eighteenth century)
-there's no mention of foreign interventions (Iraq, Afghanistan...?)

Let's get realistic: the US signed up to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which declares healthcare a basic human right.

The US government already provides taxpayer-funded government-run totally inclusive free-access unlimited socialised healthcare at NO COST to those receiving it... it's in Gitmo, but nonetheless.

Why don't Americans want, say, France's system... full coverage, best system in the world, and half the price you're currently paying?

Do Americans think they deserve LESS than "enemy combatants"... propagandised much?


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Luke - should food, water, and shelter also be "rights"?  If yes, under what authority?

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Luke - should food, water, and shelter also be "rights"?  If yes, under what authority?

...they are in Europe.

Hasn't caused the collapse of society over here. Maybe, travel a bit more.


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Luke - should food, water, and shelter also be "rights"?  If yes, under what authority?



...they are in Europe.

Hasn't caused the collapse of society over here. Maybe, travel a bit more.The Luke




2 times in a row, Luke! "by what authority", maybe, BIGFOOT'S? Where do they come from, Luke?



BTW, McWay says you copy his writting, style.  ;D






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2 times in a row, Luke! "by what authority", maybe, BIGFOOT'S? Where do they from, Luke?

...eh, what authority? Basic human decency?


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...eh, what authority? Basic human decency?


The Luke

I haven't seen that, since the DAWN of TIME.



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...eh, what authority? Basic human decency?


The Luke

In other words, you are talking out of your ass again and have absolutely nothing to back up your arguments, like most other pronouncements you make.   

 

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...so who funds the DoD?

The Luke

We know who funds it, the taxpayers. But, what you conveniently keep DODGING is the fact that vets only get TriCare WHILE UNDER DOD's EMPLOY.

The instance you separate, TriCare goes bye-bye. You don't get it, just for having a pulse.

So, it's much like the civilian world. As long as someone's at his job, he gets healthcare benefits. When he quits or gets fired, THE BENEFITS STOP!!

So, contrary to your silly claim, vets aren't simply falling back on socialized medicine. They are simply getting the benefits that are RIGHTFULLY THEIRS as DoD employees.

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Wouldnt someone who has served his country in the military be a far different case then some lazy ass in Omas community who doesnt work,doesnt produce and is a parasite to those that do?

It goes back to what I said earlier, vets (still employed by DoD: active, reserve, retired) get the insurance. Vets who have been discharged don't.