Palin Says Pro-Life Commitment Was Tested By Family

[Dos Equis]

Nice to see honesty from a public figure. 

Palin Says Pro-Life Commitment Was Tested By Family
AP

Sarah Palin says her anti-abortion commitment was tested during her pregnancy with her youngest son, who has Down syndrome, and the unexpected pregnancy of her unmarried teenage daughter.

She told a group of about 3,000 at an Ohio Right to Life Society fundraiser in Columbus on Friday that the experiences gave her empathy for pregnant women in difficult situations.

She says her family learned after the babies were born that challenges can lead to "the greatest blessings."

The former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice-presidential candidate planned to attend a Cleveland-area fundraiser Saturday for Ohio and Cleveland Right to Life chapters.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/06/palin-says-pro-life-commitment-tested-family/?test=latestnews

[Straw Man]

Nice to see honesty from a public figure. 

Palin Says Pro-Life Commitment Was Tested By Family
AP

Sarah Palin says her anti-abortion commitment was tested during her pregnancy with her youngest son, who has Down syndrome, and the unexpected pregnancy of her unmarried teenage daughter.

She told a group of about 3,000 at an Ohio Right to Life Society fundraiser in Columbus on Friday that the experiences gave her empathy for pregnant women in difficult situations.

She says her family learned after the babies were born that challenges can lead to "the greatest blessings."

The former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice-presidential candidate planned to attend a Cleveland-area fundraiser Saturday for Ohio and Cleveland Right to Life chapters.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/06/palin-says-pro-life-commitment-tested-family/?test=latestnews

she's lucky to live in a country that gives her that choice

[Soul Crusher]

she's lucky to live in a country that gives her that choice

Yeah imagine that, we have choices, but guess what, she might not have those same choices once the govt dictates everything and is forced to ration care since it will be so over budget. 

[Straw Man]

Yeah imagine that, we have choices, but guess what, she might not have those same choices once the govt dictates everything and is forced to ration care since it will be so over budget. 

actually with the current bill she might not get any choice is that wack job Stupack has his way

[Soul Crusher]

actually with the current bill she might not get any choice is that wack job Stupack has his way

Why is he a wack job? Cause he doesnt want my or you to pay for other peoples' abortions?

Personally, to me the abortion crap is nothing compared to other horrific details in MengeleCare which i have listed so many times over. 

Anyone supporting this crap sandwich needs to be waterboarded about 200 times.   

[Straw Man]

Why is he a wack job? Cause he doesnt want my or you to pay for other peoples' abortions?

Personally, to me the abortion crap is nothing compared to other horrific details in MengeleCare which i have listed so many times over. 

Anyone supporting this crap sandwich needs to be waterboarded about 200 times.   

he's a wackjob because abortion is a legitimate healthcare issue and it's covered by the insurance that the government provides to him and his family

[Soul Crusher]

he's a wackjob because abortion is a legitimate healthcare issue and it's covered by the insurance that the government provides to him and his family

Like I said, the abortion issue to me is nothing compared to the other issues with disaster of a bill that should be a non-starter for anyone with a clue. 

[Straw Man]

Like I said, the abortion issue to me is nothing compared to the other issues with disaster of a bill that should be a non-starter for anyone with a clue. 

I actually agree that the bill too watered down.  They should put the public option back in and get rid of the state sponsored exchanges

[Soul Crusher]

I actually agree that the bill too watered down.  They should put the public option back in and get rid of the state sponsored exchanges

Its a massive cluster-F#$% of a bill and have no cost controls for those of us who purchase private insurance on our own. 

Straw - if my carrier now has to cover all sorts of additional things and people and mandates etc etc, what is the most likely outcome there?   

[Straw Man]

Its a massive cluster-F#$% of a bill and have no cost controls for those of us who purchase private insurance on our own. 

Straw - if my carrier now has to cover all sorts of additional things and people and mandates etc etc, what is the most likely outcome there?   

the alternative is the current system where your premiums go up 20% + every year and where you're forced to take a larger and larger deductible and eventually you just decide that you can't afford the coverage any more

[Soul Crusher]

the alternative is the current system where your premiums go up 20% + every year and where you're forced to take a larger and larger deductible and eventually you just decide that you can't afford the coverage any more

And guess what?  This bill does absolutely nothing to curtail costs and those 20% increases are going to be 35 - 50% when the mandates kick in and people realize the fine is cheaper to pay than a policy and they can get covered once they get sick.

Its the same as if people could get homeowners insurance once the house is already on fire.  This whole mess is so poorly constructed you have no idea.

I pay $298 a month with a high deductible and $20 co-pay, which to me is completely fair.  i have no gotten these increases like the media crys about, but i know for sure once MengeleCare goes throughm, I will. 

What do I do then Straw?  Go cry to ZERO that he promised it wouldnt happen?   

 

[drkaje]

What an attention whore she is, LOL!

[Straw Man]

And guess what?  This bill does absolutely nothing to curtail costs and those 20% increases are going to be 35 - 50% when the mandates kick in and people realize the fine is cheaper to pay than a policy and they can get covered once they get sick.

Its the same as if people could get homeowners insurance once the house is already on fire.  This whole mess is so poorly constructed you have no idea.

I pay $298 a month with a high deductible and $20 co-pay, which to me is completely fair.  i have no gotten these increases like the media crys about, but i know for sure once MengeleCare goes throughm, I will. 

What do I do then Straw?  Go cry to ZERO that he promised it wouldnt happen?   

you're right - we need to get the public option in there in order to keep costs down

[240 is Back]

didn't this upset some anti-abortion groups who had originally backed her?

Abortion even being an option is against the basic beliefs of some groups.

[Soul Crusher]

you're right - we need to get the public option in there in order to keep costs down

That's not being discussed or is in the Senate bill , so its no use even talking about that.  I am referring to the bill as constructed presently. 

[tonymctones]

he's a wackjob because abortion is a legitimate healthcare issue and it's covered by the insurance that the government provides to him and his family

LOL 99% of abortions are for non health related reasons...thats hardly a legitimate healtchare issue...

[Straw Man]

That's not being discussed or is in the Senate bill , so its no use even talking about that.  I am referring to the bill as constructed presently. 

Any senator can add it as an ammendment during reconciliation

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/single-senator-can-secure-up-or-down-vote-public-option-expert-says/

[Straw Man]

LOL 99% of abortions are for non health related reasons...thats hardly a legitimate healtchare issue...

and most private insurers cover it as well as the insurance for federal workers.

there is no grounds to leave it out

[Soul Crusher]

Any senator can add it as an ammendment during reconciliation

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/single-senator-can-secure-up-or-down-vote-public-option-expert-says/

That's not going to happen and even Obama said so in his speech.  The public option is not going to happen because the dems are bought off by the insurance carriers they are all selling us out to.  You cant blame the GOP for any of this.  This is all on Obama completely.  

[tonymctones]

and most private insurers cover it as well as the insurance for federal workers.

there is no grounds to leave it out

that doesnt make it a legitmate healthcare issue 

some ppl have a moral standard that tells them that abortion is wrong, why should they be forced to pay for others?

[Straw Man]

That's not going to happen and even Obama said so in his speech.  The public option is not going to happen because the dems are bought off by the insurance carriers they are all selling us out to.  You cant blame the GOP for any of this.  This is all on Obama completely.  

I don't disagree that many Dems are owned by the insurance companies but Repubs are just as bad if not worse and let's not forget so called Independents like Lieberman.  They are all owned by insurance companies.  

[Soul Crusher]

I don't disagree that many Dems are owned by the insurance companies but Repubs are just as bad if not worse and let's not forget so called Independents like Lieberman.  They are all owned by insurance companies.  

Sorry Straw- but I dont remember the GOP from 1994 - 2006 ever trying to force anyone ever to have to purchase health insurance from these companies under force of law and IRs penalties. 

[Straw Man]

that doesnt make it a legitmate healthcare issue 
some ppl have a moral standard that tells them that abortion is wrong, why should they be forced to pay for others?

every woman has the same choice and no one is being "forced to pay" for "others" in any other way than how all insurance always works.

you pay your premiums and you make the occassional claim for service

that's how it works

[tonymctones]

every woman has the same choice and no one is being "forced to pay" for "others" in any other way than how all insurance always works.

you pay your premiums and you make the occassional claim for service

that's how it works

dont get me started on the whole bullshit choice inequality...

ok so why not take as we are reforming healthcare to eliminate that bs option as abortions are 99% optional?

[Soul Crusher]

every woman has the same choice and no one is being "forced to pay" for "others" in any other way than how all insurance always works.

you pay your premiums and you make the occassional claim for service

that's how it works

Not true.  obamaCare gives subsidies to poor people to purchase insurance.  those subsidies are funded by the taxpayer.