Iran's Ahmadinejad: Sept. 11 Attacks A 'Big Lie'

[240 is Back]

33, please just let the 911 shit go.  I'm trying my best to do the same.

You didn't know about the mayor brown warning from Condi that he bragged about to reporters.  that shit is like 911 CT, lesson 101. 

You haven't spent any time researching it, and you spend hours shitting on it.  If you had spent a single hour watching Loose change 3, for example, (fully created from mainstream sources, everything documented), Terrorstor, or any other quality doc on the subject, you would see about 500 things that make zero sense from that day - obvious lies, etc.

Instead, you talk out your ass about this shit.  It's annoying, and it's a waste of time to argue with you because you just don't konw what you're talking about.

33, you're an educated man with a passion for politics - you know your shit on a lot of topics.  but until you spend some time learning about 911, how about we just let that topic go?  You're reading multiple books about finance, etc - but you didn't know Newsweek reported the pentagon issued an order on 9/10 for all brass to cancel flights for the next morning?

Let's just let this topic end, shall we?  We both have our masters degrees - I've spent years studying 911 and have reached one conclusion.  You don't even know the basics, and have reached another conclusion... why are we arguing about it?  You wouldn't argue collections law with a turtle, right?

And JME - Sarah Palin also supports a new 911 investigation.  i wouldn't call her a traitor, would you?


Consider me 100% retired from 911 talk.  Cheers!

[Soul Crusher]

33, please just let the 911 shit go.  I'm trying my best to do the same.

You didn't know about the mayor brown warning from Condi that he bragged about to reporters.  that shit is like 911 CT, lesson 101. 

You haven't spent any time researching it, and you spend hours shitting on it.  If you had spent a single hour watching Loose change 3, for example, (fully created from mainstream sources, everything documented), Terrorstor, or any other quality doc on the subject, you would see about 500 things that make zero sense from that day - obvious lies, etc.

Instead, you talk out your ass about this shit.  It's annoying, and it's a waste of time to argue with you because you just don't konw what you're talking about.

33, you're an educated man with a passion for politics - you know your shit on a lot of topics.  but until you spend some time learning about 911, how about we just let that topic go?  You're reading multiple books about finance, etc - but you didn't know Newsweek reported the pentagon issued an order on 9/10 for all brass to cancel flights for the next morning?

Let's just let this topic end, shall we?  We both have our masters degrees - I've spent years studying 911 and have reached one conclusion.  You don't even know the basics, and have reached another conclusion... why are we arguing about it?  You wouldn't argue collections law with a turtle, right?

And JME - Sarah Palin also supports a new 911 investigation.  i wouldn't call her a traitor, would you?


Consider me 100% retired from 911 talk.  Cheers!

What is annoying is seeing people like yourself accuse others of murder and being complicit of murder, not putting forth names, dates, places, methods, who, what , where, when, why, and calling anyone challenging these ever stupid claims as being puppets. 

I have asked you at least 15 times now to provide me with even one credible CT that withstands 5 minutes of questioning.  You get defensive when I ask questions challenging these accusations, which says to me that you have NOTHING but conjecture and speculation at best.

When someone demolishes on CT, you guys simply move on to another, and then to another, and then to another as each ridiculous claim gets debunked. 

240 - you claim to have spent all this time researching 911 CT's,, 9 YEAR NOW!  And guess what?  9 years later, you guys still have not one credible CT that cant be debunked in 5 minutes flat.  Not even one CT!

Let me ask you this - KSM confessed to being the mastermind.  As a confessed terrorist who wants to destroy America, if he had info that could bring down the US Govt and name names etc, dont yoiu think?

1.  He would have declared himself not guilty and exposed this by now?  and/or

2.  The govt would have moved much quicker to execute him? 


Or is KSM now in on this grand CT?   

 

[240 is Back]

I made it a point to avoid this thread until ppl brought my name up.

NO - I am not accusing anyone of murder.  I'm saying what the 911 commissioners say - there are major questions about that day and another investigation is in order.  

If you had gotten thru 911 101, you'd know that KSM and the other pricks were indeed behind it.  However, some people here had prior knowledge - cancelled flights, bought put options on those airlines in record volume, moved out of the building, left work early that day after mass texts, and may have just gotten out of the bad guys' way in order to get the green light for a series of wars they were planning.

For people who haven't researched it, the choices are 19 arabs with boxcutters, or Bush with a plunger setting off bombs.  most educated people believe it's some place in the middle.  it's like me saying all collection laws are unfair bullshit.  and another person saying all collection laws are perfect.  And you, with a great deal of research, saying it's not perfect and there are flaws, but as a whole it is effective.  Gray areas.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll find somebody else you can lecture on it who will believe you are an expert on the subject.  As a former Bush lover who tried to start a fight with some dick who questioned the official story, i was a VERY hard convert to doubt the official story.  hearing Rumsfeld admit we shot down a plane, hearing a 911 commissioner talk about a missile hitting pentagon (youtube it!), hearing the 2 co-chairs of the commission calling for another investigation....

Well, whatever the case, I just don't have the time nor energy to spend hours debating point by point with you.  history will tell the truth.  I can't spend any more time debating it, I'd rather think about other things.  Good luck on your quest for knowledge my friend

[SAMSON123]

Somehow 'wishing it weren't on the map' became 'washing it off the map, then 'wiping it off the map'. Wouldn't really matter what he said anyways because they're next.

Read it and weep

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

[drkaje]

Read it and weep

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

It doesn't matter what he said. We're talking about politics, not truth or facts.

[Soul Crusher]

Can someone please give me a decent 911 CT I cant debunk in 5 minutes flat? 

Remember, you need to account for everything that occurred at WTC, Pentagon, and PA.

I dont want bogus nonsense based on delusional speculation that defies reality. 

Come on, can just one "Truther" do that? 


   

[drkaje]

Can someone please give me a decent 911 CT I cant debunk in 5 minutes flat? 

Remember, you need to account for everything that occurred at WTC, Pentagon, and PA.

I dont want bogus nonsense based on delusional speculation that defies reality. 

Come on, can just one "Truther" do that? 


   

I'm not a "truther" but guess the government doesn't really want us to know how preventable the attacks were. I still feel intelligence failure played a role in things getting that far. That being said, growing the government and the patriot act have probably closed some of the gaps those guys slipped through but I don't feel we have gone far enough to punish responsible nations.

[Soul Crusher]

I'm not a "truther" but guess the government doesn't really want us to know how preventable the attacks were. I still feel intelligence failure played a role in things getting that far. That being said, growing the government and the patriot act have probably closed some of the gaps those guys slipped through but I don't feel we have gone far enough to punish responsible nations.

My belief is that the only cover-up is how negligent and incompent the govt actually is, despite the hundreds of billions spent.   

To me, anyone whol believes that the same fools who run the dmv and post office somehow could matermind the biggest CT in the history of man, leave not one trace, have not one whilsteblower, not one foul up, not one slip up, not one reprentent conspirator, not one person who ever talked, not one shred of evidence after 10 years whatsoever, are truly living in fantasy world. 

Just go into the DMV and ask yourself if those fools could pull off 911 when they cant even pull off your damn driving record.   

[SAMSON123]

It doesn't matter what he said. We're talking about politics, not truth or facts.

OK...Now I see. Thanks for the enlightenment... Politics is a whole other realm...

[drkaje]

OK...Now I see. Thanks for the enlightenment... Politics is a whole other realm...

I really can't imagine a scenario under which they won't be attacked by the US when we have a republican president.

[Skeeter]

My belief is that the only cover-up is how negligent and incompent the govt actually is, despite the hundreds of billions spent.   

To me, anyone whol believes that the same fools who run the dmv and post office somehow could matermind the biggest CT in the history of man, leave not one trace, have not one whilsteblower, not one foul up, not one slip up, not one reprentent conspirator, not one person who ever talked, not one shred of evidence after 10 years whatsoever, are truly living in fantasy world. 

Just go into the DMV and ask yourself if those fools could pull off 911 when they cant even pull off your damn driving record.   

There are a few whistle blowers, however they are more directed at government foul ups regarding responses to the attacks.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17961

Last year a paper was accepted to the open chemical physics journal entitled "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe". This journal is open however it is still peer reviewed. This paper describes "red grey chips" that were found in the dust from the world trade centre. These chips are now being referred to as a "nano-thermite" which could be considered a military grade explosive/incendiary since it is hard to manufacture/procure.
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM


A good resource for serious 9/11 studies can be found at http://www.journalof911studies.com/
There are a lot of other CTs out there that do not have enough evidence to back them up that this site attempts to debunk such as the CTs surrounding the Pentagon or the silly Directed Energy Beam theory.

I don't claim to know the truth of 9/11 however the implications of the nano-thermite found in the WTC dust are pretty astounding.

[Soul Crusher]

After 10 years, you would think that the 911 CT believers could at least forumulate a CT that is plausible and makes sense, and could logistically be pulled off.   

[Fury]

After 10 years, you would think that the 911 CT believers could at least forumulate a CT that is plausible and makes sense, and could logistically be pulled off.    

They'll formulate one for you. It will ignore facts, logic and reason and be built around a youtube video that some 40 year old guy watched in his mother's basement. And like you said, when that one gets debunked they'll move on to the next GUARANTEED 100% TRUE theory.

Like you said, given the incompetency of most governments (including ours) it's hilarious to think that thousands of people could concoct the greatest duping ever and manage to keep it covered up.

I'll believe it when I see more than "they found some red dust on the ground, it's thermite so there were bombs in the tower. Government hoax!"  

What annoys me is that the media continues to give this douche press by printing anything he says. Same guy that claimed Iran had no homosexuals as they were stringing up people by the dozen for being *gasp* homosexual. Or when they had to photoshop their missile tests because half of the missiles launched never left the ground. Iran is serious business! 

[Soul Crusher]

They'll formulate one for you. It will ignore facts, logic and reason and be built around a youtube video that some 40 year old guy watched in his mother's basement. And like you said, when that one gets debunked they'll move on to the next GUARANTEED 100% TRUE theory.

Like you said, given the incompetency of most governments (including ours) it's hilarious to think that thousands of people could concoct the greatest duping ever and manage to keep it covered up.

I'll believe it when I see more than "they found some red dust on the ground, it's thermite so there were bombs in the tower. Government hoax!"  

I have told 240 now at least 100 times, I have no doubt that people in this country would like to do it, but at least give me a logistically plausible scenario that makes sense, takes into account the three locations, etc etc,

So far, I get called a puppet, a dupe etc simply for pointing out flaws in these delusions they harbor, and then they move to another crazy CT that gets debunked in 2 seconds flat. 

I am all ears for any CT, but at least come forth with something I cant debunk in five minutes.   

[Fury]

I have told 240 now at least 100 times, I have no doubt that people in this country would like to do it, but at least give me a logistically plausible scenario that makes sense, takes into account the three locations, etc etc,

So far, I get called a puppet, a dupe etc simply for pointing out flaws in these delusions they harbor, and then they move to another crazy CT that gets debunked in 2 seconds flat.  

I am all ears for any CT, but at least come forth with something I cant debunk in five minutes.    

You're a "sheep" bro. It's only people who are "in the know" because of google that have become enlightened!  

I watched this 9/11 hoax video on youtube and it blew my mind, man! 

[240 is Back]

'I have told 240 now at least 100 times, '

Dude, how about stop bringing me the fuck up.  I'm doing my best to avoid this argument.  Skeeter delivers a damn good Q about thermite, and your canned response of "well, i've never seen..."

hey, how about looking at that fvcking thermite Q, for starters.  it's completely unexplainable.  There is no fvcking reason any thermite should be in that dust cloud, unless explosives were used.  This is one of hundreds of things that make no sense about 911.

Either learn about the subject, or STFU, or just keep on babbling like you know what you are talking about.  But I'd appreciate you stop bringing me up when I'm doing my best to stop this debate with ppl who just want to repeat canned BS.

[Soul Crusher]

You're a "sheep" bro. It's only people who are "in the know" because of google that have become enlightened!  

I watched this 9/11 hoax video on youtube and it blew my mind, man! 

A perfect example is the Pentagon and those claiming its a missle.  I ask where is Barbara Olsen then?  They say who is that?  It was only a famed commentator and wife of the then Solicitor general Ted Olsen.  I ask if he was in on it too and what happened to her?  

The answer?  Either he is in on it or she was taken in the woods somewhere and killed.  Hysterical.  So I guess there is a mass grave of 100 or so people somehwhere on that since the other people on that pplane also disappeared.

The level of idiocy of most "truthers" is embarassing.  

Like I said 10 years later, they have come up with absolutely squat.  

  

      

[Soul Crusher]

'I have told 240 now at least 100 times, '

Dude, how about stop bringing me the fuck up.  I'm doing my best to avoid this argument.  Skeeter delivers a damn good Q about thermite, and your canned response of "well, i've never seen..."

hey, how about looking at that fvcking thermite Q, for starters.  it's completely unexplainable.  There is no fvcking reason any thermite should be in that dust cloud, unless explosives were used.  This is one of hundreds of things that make no sense about 911.

Either learn about the subject, or STFU, or just keep on babbling like you know what you are talking about.  But I'd appreciate you stop bringing me up when I'm doing my best to stop this debate with ppl who just want to repeat canned BS.

Because like the Palin baby CT, you were all in on the 911 CT and still have ZERO evidence whatsoever. 

Give me a plausible CT that logistically makes sense and we will talk about it.   

[240 is Back]

because you - do not - know what th F you are talking about - when it comes to 911.

I'm sorry man, I love your posts, but on this topic, you have posted hundreds of times "there are no 911 CTs that make sense!" but you DO NOT KNOW 99% of them.

You didn't know about the mayor brown call from Condi?  Jeez dude, that shit is 911 101.

I'm not going to give you any plausible CT - you can continue to believe none make sense, or you can do your own damn research.  There are thousands of phds, NYPD, FDNY, and military people who have come fwd, who have worked in that area and have put their reputations on the line to say yes, the official story needs re-investigated.

Maybe they're all full of shit.  maybe reagan's father of star wars program is full of shit.  Maybe you know more than he does.  okay, that's it.  You can't tell us about mayor Brown, but you can surely lecture that doctor/phd of reagan's space nuke program, when he says it's physically impossible what happened that day.

i'm sorry dude, i dont have the time to debate 911 anymore.  I encourage you to find your own answers.  however I ask again, please stop bringing me up on this one... It's so hard not to jump in when I'm called out like that, but really... I debated this shit for years and I don't have anything to prove on the topic... the thousands of ppl with greater education, and those from the military, speak volumes.  peace.

[Soul Crusher]

Give me plausible CT on 911 -


oh thats right


10 FREAKING YEARS LATER AND YOU STILL CANT COME UP WITH SQUAT, JUST LIKE PALINS' BABY CT.   

[Eric15210]

Ahmadinejad denies holocaust ever happen 

I question his credibility about 9/11

[Kazan]

Here is a whole website that goes through the CT's, this will link to the thermite part

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

[Soul Crusher]

Here is a whole website that goes through the CT's, this will link to the thermite part

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

I wish some of these 'Truthers" like 240 and Hugo would not be so freaking lazy and at least come up with a CT that withstands 5 minutes of questioning. 

If I went in to court, even on a civil matter, with the "evidence" they have put forth so far, I be thrown out day 1.     

[Fury]

I wish some of these 'Truthers" like 240 and Hugo would not be so freaking lazy and at least come up with a CT that withstands 5 minutes of questioning. 

If I went in to court, even on a civil matter, with the "evidence" they have put forth so far, I be thrown out day 1.     

That's the fascinating thing about the internet. Thump your chest long enough and continually repeat the same thing and eventually it becomes true. 

[drkaje]

That's the fascinating thing about the internet. Thump your chest long enough and continually repeat the same thing and eventually it becomes true. 

Won't be long 'til Wiki and YouTube are handing out degrees.