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One of the most significant impacts a president has on the country (judicial appointments).  Something that was not really discussed during the campaign.  Nice job Mr. President.   ::)

Updated March 10, 2010
Hearing Delayed for Obama Judicial Nominee Who Supported Serial Killer
By Judson Berger
FOXNews.com

The Senate Judiciary Committee has postponed the hearing for a controversial Court of Appeals nominee after the panel received a letter from a home-state prosecutor blasting him as a judicial loose cannon and Republicans raised concerns about his alleged bias in favor of sex offenders.

The Senate Judiciary Committee has postponed the hearing for a controversial Court of Appeals nominee after the panel received a letter from a home-state prosecutor blasting the candidate as a judicial loose cannon and after Republicans raised concerns about bias in favor of sex offenders.

U.S. District Court Judge Robert Chatigny gained notoriety in 2005 for his role in trying to fight the execution of convicted serial killer and rapist Michael Ross, also known as The Roadside Strangler, whom Chatigny had described as a victim of his own "sexual sadism."

His conduct in that case, which included threatening to go after Ross' attorney's law license, as well as his ruling in 2001 against sex offender registries created under Megan's Law, has caused a commotion among Republicans on the judiciary panel.

"I've never seen conduct like this," said a Republican source. "I'm shocked that the White House vetted this guy ... and still put him up for a judgeship."

The nomination is relatively fresh. President Obama submitted his name Feb. 24 for a seat on the Second Circuit Court of Appeals, calling him a "first-rate" legal expert and "faithful" public servant.

With the hearing originally set for Wednesday, Republicans led by their ranking member, Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., said they wanted more time.

"Senator Sessions and the Judiciary Republicans have asked for a delay in light of the nominee's extremely lengthy record and the fact that he was brought up so unusually quickly," Sessions spokesman Stephen Miller said.

Behind the scenes, Republicans are taking a hard look at Chatigny's role in the Ross proceedings which they say could be disqualifying -- particularly on the Court of Appeals, the last line of review before the Supreme Court.

"You're letting him be the final review for a lot of people, and he's shown this alarming bias in sex crime cases," a GOP committee aide said.

Chatigny's office declined a request for comment. The White House could not be reached.

Chatigny stunned those involved in the serial killer case in early 2005 by pressuring Ross' attorney on a conference call to challenge his scheduled execution even though Ross had said he did not want to fight.

The judge had raised concerns about whether Ross was mentally unfit and whether prison isolation had led to despair -- at the time of the conference call, federal appeals courts had overturned two prior orders from him postponing the execution.

According to a transcript of that Jan. 28 call, the judge threatened to go after the law license of Ross' attorney, T.R. Paulding.

"So I warn you, Mr. Paulding, between now and whatever happens Sunday night, you better be prepared to live with yourself for the rest of your life," Chatigny said. "And you better be prepared to deal with me if in the wake of this an investigation is conducted and it turns out that what Lopez says and what this former program director says is true, because I'll have your law license."

Ramon Lopez was an inmate who had written a letter to Chatigny saying Ross had been brainwashed by mental health professionals.

Ross was convicted of killing four women but had confessed to killing eight, raping most of them. He was sentenced to death in 1987 and had been on death row nearly two decades when Chatigny engaged in the last-minute battle with others on the case.

On the conference call, the judge repeatedly stuck up for Ross, saying he suffered from "this affliction, this terrible disease" and suggesting Ross "may be the least culpable, the least, of the people on death row."

"Looking at the record in a light most favorable to Mr. Ross, he never should have been convicted," Chatigny said. "Or if convicted, he never should have been sentenced to death because his sexual sadism, which was found by every single person who looked at him, is clearly a mitigating factor."

In the end, the execution was temporarily delayed and ultimately carried out. But in the aftermath, seven prosecutors from Connecticut filed a complaint against the judge with the Judicial Council of the Second Circuit. Among the complaints were that the judge had threatened Paulding and that he had not disclosed that in 1992 he filed an application to file a legal brief in support of Ross' appeal -- though the judge never ended up filing that brief. He was later cleared of misconduct.

This year, in a letter dated March 5 to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy and Sessions, one of those prosecutors wrote that Chatigny's actions in the run-up to the execution "call into question his suitability" for the Court of Appeals seat.

"Judge Chatigny completely abandoned the role of neutral and detached magistrate and instead became an advocate for the position held by the parties who were seeking to stop the execution of Michael Ross," wrote Michael O'Hare, an assistant state's attorney in Connecticut. He described the Jan. 28 conference call as a "tirade" in which the judge was "threatening and intimidating" others.

After receiving the letter, as well as a request from committee Republicans to postpone, Leahy canceled the Wednesday hearing. According to Leahy's office, the hearing was postponed because of the GOP request and will be held at some point, though it's not clear when.

A Democratic committee aide said Leahy was "happy to accommodate" the Republicans' request. The aide did not discuss whether Democrats share the Republicans' concerns.

"The information related to that case has been in the public domain for quite some time, so it's not like something that's been kept from public view. ... This is why we have nomination hearings," the aide said.

A few years before the standoff over the execution, Chatigny had also issued a ruling that Connecticut's sex offender registry was not constitutional. Though the federal appeals court upheld the ruling, it was later unanimously reversed by the Supreme Court.

The judge does have his supporters. Connecticut Sens. Chris Dodd and Joe Lieberman issued a joint statement late last month saying Chatigny had "consistently demonstrated his impressive legal abilities and a profound commitment to the rule of law."

They called him an "outstanding addition" to the Court of Appeals and pledged to work toward his "swift confirmation" through the Senate.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/09/panel-delays-hearing-court-nominee-following-concerns-sex-case-bias/?test=latestnews

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So a guy who doesn't believe in the death penalty and that once you have served your time you are a free man and free from being posted on a registry, is somehow a bad candidate?  I guess if you are a right winger he is, if you are level headed then no he isn't.  Why does everyone have to agree on everything?
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So a guy who doesn't believe in the death penalty and that once you have served your time you are a free man and free from being posted on a registry, is somehow a bad candidate?  I guess if you are a right winger he is, if you are level headed then no he isn't.  Why does everyone have to agree on everything?

Yes he is a bad candidate.

No everyone does not have to agree on everything. 

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Yes he is a bad candidate.

No everyone does not have to agree on everything. 

Why is he a bad candidate?  Because he is against the death penalty or was in that case? 
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Why is he a bad candidate?  Because he is against the death penalty or was in that case? 

Because he abused his role as an impartial person and became an advocate in a death penalty case, and because of his position on registered sex offenders. 
 

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Because he abused his role as an impartial person and became an advocate in a death penalty case, and because of his position on registered sex offenders. 
 

That's not an abuse at all IMO.  If someone has grounds to believe an offender has reason to not be put to death he should voice it.  Otherwise we may as well have robots. 

Regarding his stance on the registry i don't have an issue with it.  I don't agree that every person should register themselves that goes against serving time in prison if you then have to serve time outside.  If you are afraid someone will commit again then don't release them.  But to burden a free man like that does nothing to rehabilitate anyone, it alienates them from society which will result in a higher chance of re-offending. 
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That's not an abuse at all IMO.  If someone has grounds to believe an offender has reason to not be put to death he should voice it.  Otherwise we may as well have robots. 

Regarding his stance on the registry i don't have an issue with it.  I don't agree that every person should register themselves that goes against serving time in prison if you then have to serve time outside.  If you are afraid someone will commit again then don't release them.  But to burden a free man like that does nothing to rehabilitate anyone, it alienates them from society which will result in a higher chance of re-offending. 

You should read the whole article, including this part:

According to a transcript of that Jan. 28 call, the judge threatened to go after the law license of Ross' attorney, T.R. Paulding.

"So I warn you, Mr. Paulding, between now and whatever happens Sunday night, you better be prepared to live with yourself for the rest of your life," Chatigny said. "And you better be prepared to deal with me if in the wake of this an investigation is conducted and it turns out that what Lopez says and what this former program director says is true, because I'll have your law license."

Ramon Lopez was an inmate who had written a letter to Chatigny saying Ross had been brainwashed by mental health professionals.

Ross was convicted of killing four women but had confessed to killing eight, raping most of them. He was sentenced to death in 1987 and had been on death row nearly two decades when Chatigny engaged in the last-minute battle with others on the case.

On the conference call, the judge repeatedly stuck up for Ross, saying he suffered from "this affliction, this terrible disease" and suggesting Ross "may be the least culpable, the least, of the people on death row."


That is outrageous behavior.  I wonder what the victims' families think about this judge?

I disagree about sex offenders, especially pedophiles.  Do you know what the recidivism rate is for those animals?  There are some who think they cannot be rehabilitated.  I certainly want to know if one is living in my neighborhood.  I think the overwhelming majority of parents want to know too.

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If they can not be rehabilitated then don't put them back in the public.  Lets introduce a law that excludes them from society and maybe after their hard time sentence they go live in a lower security prison somewhere in the middle of nowhere.   Our laws are based on once you have served your time you are a free man regardless of the crime.  If someone is still a threat then there should be someway of keeping them out of the public, but if they are deemed releasable then only law enforcement should have access to where they are.  They are after all a free person.

Regarding the transcript i did read it.  And if this is what he believed then i think it was a good thing for him to stand up and say so.  He never said he was innocent just that perhaps there were other issues and that maybe this inmate shouldn't be on death row.  I think more judges need to stand up. 
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If they can not be rehabilitated then don't put them back in the public.  Lets introduce a law that excludes them from society and maybe after their hard time sentence they go live in a lower security prison somewhere in the middle of nowhere.   Our laws are based on once you have served your time you are a free man regardless of the crime.  If someone is still a threat then there should be someway of keeping them out of the public, but if they are deemed releasable then only law enforcement should have access to where they are.  They are after all a free person.

Regarding the transcript i did read it.  And if this is what he believed then i think it was a good thing for him to stand up and say so.  He never said he was innocent just that perhaps there were other issues and that maybe this inmate shouldn't be on death row.  I think more judges need to stand up. 

I actually think pedophiles should be one and done.  But our laws don't say in all circumstances that you are a free man, with all of the rights and privileges of law abiding citizens, after serving your time.  In some instances, you permanently lose the right to vote, carry a weapon, or fail to register as a sex offender.  The public has passed these laws all over the country.  It's what the people want. 

The judge wasn't merely standing up for someone, he was being an advocate for a rapist and murderer, threatening the prosecutors in the process.  That's not the kind of person who should be serving as a judge.

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I don't really like this guy, but here is an article that discusses the sex offender problem, including studies showing how serious repeat offenders are:

How To Deal With Sex Offenders?
By Bob Jones
Wednesday - March 10, 2010

A sign of the times
 
I get so mad each time a child or a woman is killed by a repeat sex offender that I could chew and swallow nails!

The latest victim: a 17-year-old girl killed and buried in a shallow park in San Diego County. The suspect: a man, a released sex offender also suspected in the attack on a woman in another park.

But what to do? The experts are split among therapy, medication, brain surgery and castration. Many of you want them locked away forever. I’ll try to be fair in parsing those remedies but, boy, am I getting fed up!

We’ve got studies up the wazoo. Two of the best and opposite, I think, are by Drs. Linda Grossman, Brian Martis and Chris Fichtner (all highly qualified in the topic), and respected Drs. Barry Maletzky and Kevin McGovern of the Sexual Abuse Clinic of Portland. The Grossman team concludes that going with treatment instead of imprisonment isn’t borne out by current research results. They say: “It is a common view that no treatments work for disorders involving sexual aggression.”

I suspect most of you agree. Am I right?

One study estimates that by the time rapists enter treatment, they have assaulted seven victims, and non-incestuous pedophiles who molest boys have committed an average of 282 offenses against 150 victims. Other research says that more than half of all women and one-fifth of all men will be sexually assaulted at some point. That’s pretty scary! It’s estimated that at least 90 percent of sexual assaults never get reported to police and only 1 percent of sex offenders are ever arrested. More scary!

About 20 percent of child molesters are re-convicted within 10 years of their release from prison. Scared you yet?

So, some experts recommend castration or removing part of the hypothalamus in the brain to cut off male hormones (males being the main offenders). But neither has been shown 100 percent effective.

Medication is big, mainly the use of what are called anti-androgens to reduce testosterone - that cuts libido and erections.

Then there’s aversion therapy. You tell your therapist about a deviant act and you get an electric shock. But the Grossman team says the more deviant the patient - meaning he needs to be locked away - the less likely this treatment is to succeed.

Lock ‘em up or counseling?
 
On the other side, Drs. Barry Maletzky and Kevin McGovern of the Sexual Abuse Clinic of Portland say that, with behavioral treatment of 3,700 pedophiles, there was no rearrest, and following men for 17 years after treatment showed success for 95 percent of homosexual and 86 percent of heterosexual pedophiles (child molesters). Rapists have a 73 percent success rate.

They say “the data gives strong indication that treatment is effective for a great many offenders.”

I just don’t know. I’m sure MidWeek will hear a lot of conflicting input from people who claim to know. I’m not sure they really know. I suspect they have opinions with little determinate data.

Are the molestations and killings by repeat offenders an aberration, or a signal that short incarcerations and treatment (what there is) are failing?

How would I feel if a known sex offender lived on my street? I can’t say, because I don’t know of one from the state Web site.

This is not a small, inconsequential matter. Hardly a week goes by without some sex assault in the newspaper - and those are only the ones reported to police.

I’m not a lock-‘em-all-up guy by nature, but I’m getting less comfortable with ‘em on the loose.

http://www.midweek.com/content/columns/justthoughts_article/how_to_deal_with_sex_offenders/

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Re: Hearing Delayed for Obama Judicial Nominee Who Supported Serial Killer
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 03:51:22 PM »
Sex offenders are defective and need to be scrapped, don't think anyone is going to miss a murdering rapist
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