Roelly Winklaar: Transformation from 2005 til 2010

[muscle19]

you guys, get a grip on the drug talk lol  it really is the finishing touch! think about it, take juice and barely train, eat ok and then train like crazy, eat VERY dedicated and strict and alot of the good foods and hen see what youll look like. and of course they will respond better with all that in place, without that, your nothing, so how is it not the finishing touch?

[~UN_$ung~]

shut the fuck up moron.......a guy who does everything without drugs.......really does not look much different then a swimmer

a guy who does everything you say, with drugs, is a hundred + pounds heavier

a hundred pounds of muscle is a "finishing touch"

sure you wont get shit if you dont put the work in in the kitchen and weightroom.........but drugs are debatably the most important factor.......you simply will not grow (into anything big) without the drugs


.......but go ahead....keep following the training protocols in the magazines and the diet plans and crossing your fingers....it'll happen for you one day  

[muscle19]

damn lol UN_$ung~ got me   better start on the phil heath diet/training article from a few issues ago

[muscle19]

i do agree with you too... but just like you and I both said, without a hardcore training and crazy hardcore diet or lots of food, drugs wont do shit, but when do those two above, the results are amazing

[~UN_$ung~]

damn lol UN_$ung~ got me   better start on the phil heath diet/training article from a few issues ago

well phil does fst-7.....thats the crazy hany rambod workout......i heard that workout is SOOOOOOO ground breaking that his clients don't even need steroids anymore

[Alex23]

Glad to see he got rid of the "guy" tat....