Clean Needles - Should we provide them?

[kcballer]

It's an interesting topic considering the international HIV/AIDS conference is going on right now in Vienna.  Studies have proven again and again that access to clean needles and safe injection sites not only reduces HIV, and subsequently AIDS, but in doing so reduces overall health costs from overdoses, infections, anti-retrovirals, it helps addicts get clean when they decide they want to get clean and it helps those who are not addicts get clean needles so they don't share with others. 

What is the getbig consensus on this?  Saving money and lives is a good thing?  Or drugs are bad and those who do them should suffer? 

[kcballer]

[BM OUT]

Yes and the government should subsidise steroids for athletes as well.Also,maybe we should give out free lube and condoms so there is less bleeding and chance for the spread of AIDS.

[kcballer]

Yes and the government should subsidise steroids for athletes as well.Also,maybe we should give out free lube and condoms so there is less bleeding and chance for the spread of AIDS.

Great points Billy! We should give out those things, unfortunately we spend millions of dollars on HIV and stipulate it must go to 'abstinence' programs  yeah like that works in humans. 

Harm reduction should include the use of steroids. 

[225for70]

 NO-

Message is NWO approved

[Soul Crusher]

I have an addiction to chics with bootys and big tits, should the govt supply them to me?   

[Fury]

Yes.

[Dos Equis]

No.

[kcballer]

I have an addiction to chics with bootys and big tits, should the govt supply them to me?   

Move to Brazil.

[kcballer]

No.

What do you pose as an alternative beach?  The cost of antiretrovirals over a lifetime is 1000's of times more than a clean needle. 

[drkaje]

Clean needles are cheaper than treating new cases.

[Soul Crusher]

What do you pose as an alternative beach?  The cost of antiretrovirals over a lifetime is 1000's of times more than a clean needle. 

Quarantine on an island until a vacinne is found. 

[Dos Equis]

What do you pose as an alternative beach?  The cost of antiretrovirals over a lifetime is 1000's of times more than a clean needle. 

Stop doing drugs.  I don't believe in subsidizing bad behavior.  I might support some form of subsidized rehab, but I'm not favor of using tax dollars to promote drug use.  

[kcballer]

Clean needles are cheaper than treating new cases.

BINGO

[kcballer]

Stop doing drugs.  I don't believe in subsidizing bad behavior.  I might support some form of subsidized rehab, but I'm not favor of using tax dollars to promote drug use.  

And we end up on the hook for millions in anti-retrovirals.  So fiscally you'd rather spend millions on people with HIV than many times less in preventing it. 

[kcballer]

Quarantine on an island until a vacinne is found. 

You can't be serious please get your head out your ass

[drkaje]

Quarantine on an island until a vacinne is found. 

Quarantining researchers would be easier. Without them AIDS would have run its course and killed the susceptible population instead of transitioning into a chronic, expensive disease.

Beach..... Subsidizing behavior, LOL! That's like saying diabetics shouldn't get clean needles because they are fat from overeating. I guess you'd rather have the moral victory associated with new infections than save taxpayers millions of dollars.

[BM OUT]

Move to Brazil.

Ha,ha,ha,the problem with that is you may end up with an extra surprise down there.

[Dos Equis]

And we end up on the hook for millions in anti-retrovirals.  So fiscally you'd rather spend millions on people with HIV than many times less in preventing it. 

I'd rather not spend millions on people with HIV or any other disease.  Overall, I'd rather people stop doing harmful things, we focus on prevention, promote healthy families, and parents do a better job of raising kids.

[kcballer]

I'd rather not spend millions on people with HIV or any other disease.  Overall, I'd rather people stop doing harmful things, we focus on prevention, promote healthy families, and parents do a better job of raising kids.

So you'd rather the reduction in harmful things?  Isn't that what clean needles does?  It reduces the harm one can cause to themselves or others.  Pretty straight forward and pretty responsible. 

[kcballer]

Ha,ha,ha,the problem with that is you may end up with an extra surprise down there.

Then he can move to the quarantine island.  You only catch it once right?

[Soul Crusher]

I'd rather not spend millions on people with HIV or any other disease.  Overall, I'd rather people stop doing harmful things, we focus on prevention, promote healthy families, and parents do a better job of raising kids.

HIV is mosty a gay mans' disase and drug abuser situation.  

If these homos stopped banging each other like rabbits this situation would not be as bad as it developed, especially men going on the down low as well.  

[Dos Equis]

So you'd rather the reduction in harmful things?  Isn't that what clean needles does?  It reduces the harm one can cause to themselves or others.  Pretty straight forward and pretty responsible. 

The government shouldn't be giving a drug addict needles so the addict can continue to break the law and destroy his/her body.  That increases harm to society.  It's pretty irresponsible IMO.  It's almost like giving a loaded gun to a kid and expecting the kid to act responsibly. 

[Soul Crusher]

People have been warned for decades not to have reckless gay sex or share needles.  sure there are a few cases on the marign like where a womans' man on the down low transmits aids tot he partner, but most cases are gays refusing to engage in safe sex or people sharing needles. 

I feel bad for the cases of unknowing victims liek blood transfusions etc, but not the majority who have been wanred many times over not to engage in animalistic behavior. 

[drkaje]

People have been warned for decades not to have reckless gay sex or share needles.  sure there are a few cases on the marign like where a womans' man on the down low transmits aids tot he partner, but most cases are gays refusing to engage in safe sex or people sharing needles. 

I feel bad for the cases of unknowing victims liek blood transfusions etc, but not the majority who have been wanred many times over not to engage in animalistic behavior. 

Fat people know eating too much causes health problems. What about them?