Ummmmmmmmm "greatly elevated"......."first few weeks"................"long time to pile on appreciable gains"........."dbol is stronger than winny"..............listen to you........your post makes absolutely zero sense from a physiological or pharmaceutical perspective.
Please explain what you're opposed to exactly.
A shot of Deca greatly elevates protein synthesis. Fact. Just because protein synthesis is greatly elevated doesn't mean you put on 5lbs of pure muscle tissue in a week. Protein synthesis could be increased by several hundred percent yet it wouldn't necessarily register on a scale in a few days or even weeks.
Dbol is seen as a stronger anabolic than Winstrol by the majority of people. Sure, there may be more water retention with Dbol but fact remains, most consider Dbol "stronger". Quick "gains" is why short Dbol cycles are considered adequate by many.
Do
you consider Winstrol a stronger anabolic than Dbol?
LBM gain is always the fastest in the beginning of administration of any steroid. Do you disagree? Have any data support the opposite?
I'm reminded of how you're also supposed to take Test Enanthate for at least 12 or 16 or whatever weeks and how it doesn't even start working until 4 or 5 weeks in. There was this great study, which I've posted here before, where they immobilized test subject for 4 weeks. Isocaloric diet. Gave them T3 to increase catabolism further from the immobilization while administering 200mg of TE per week. In 4 weeks these subject put on 4-5lbs of lbm while dropping about the same in bodyfat. Only 4 shots of test! Hey, I thought TE doesn't even "kick in" until 4-5 weeks in?
There was even a WADA sponsored study on TE, on how long it would take for measurable gains to manifest at a modest dose. I think already at 3 weeks there were appreciable gains. But I thought it hasn't even started working at that point.
Winstrol cycles are longer because dbol is more toxic on the liver
AFAIAC there is little evidence Dbol is more liver toxic than Winstrol, on a milligram to milligram basis. If you have any data I'd like to see it.
Dbol causes quick weight increases, may increase BP more, may cause painful lower back pumps (which many think is kidney pain) etc, which many ignorant people equate with straight out toxicity. "Hey, it's really potent, it must be killing my liver and kidneys."
Of course, Winstrol is notorious for annihilating HDL quickly yet people routinely run it 10-12 weeks, with dosages such as 100mg/day, with not a worry in the world. Why do they do it? Because 4 weeks on Winstrol wont do nearly as much as Dbol as far as changing your physique. Personally I'd much rather do Dbol than Winstrol for 4 months straight.