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Boxing vs MMA
« on: August 29, 2010, 07:40:53 PM »
Toney vs Couture looked exactly like every MMA guy in the world said it would.  Boxers and all the shit they talked about how an MMA guy wouldn't have a chance against a good boxer could man up and apologize for being morons, but you know what will happen?  Let the excuses begin.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 10:12:01 PM »
toney was ranked #52 in the world when he fought couture.

Lets see how couture would do against a top 10 ranked boxer.  He would get his head knocked off.
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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 11:59:00 PM »
toney was ranked #52 in the world when he fought couture.

Lets see how couture would do against a top 10 ranked boxer.  He would get his head knocked off.

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Toney didn't even throw a single punch standing up, what makes you think any other boxer with limited grappling skills will be any different when Couture (or anyone with his background in wrestling) shoots for a single leg takedown? It's going to be the same exact outcome 99% of the time

It will be the same result when Gracie pwned that boxer almost twenty years ago, what Couture proved yesterday, and twenty years in the future if the boxer has that poor of takedown defense versus an experienced grappler like Gracie/Couture.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 12:04:16 AM »
Couture against a 20 year old Tyson wouldn't even be funny.  Now Couture against an average or subpar heavyweight what do you expect?  There hasn't been a decent heavyweight for how many years?  Toney is/was a fucking joke.  

Plus in the street a heavy weight boxer would demolish a guy like Couture anyways.  People that extrapolate what they see in a padded octagon to a real life street fight are retards.  It's easy to throw kicks when you are in your barefeet on a nice flat, padded surface with shorts on.  It's easy not having to worry about your surroundings when you're in a perfectly round octagon with net sides and great lighting.  LOL......MMA fighting is so far removed from real fighting it's hilarious.  So of course a boxer isn't going to do much against a Couture MMAer.  That's like putting a rugby player up against a basketball player.  

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 02:11:27 AM »
Now that MMA has beaten boxing, does it prove that MMA isn't just a bunch of unskilled barbarians?




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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 02:17:44 AM »
toney was ranked #52 in the world when he fought couture.

Lets see how couture would do against a top 10 ranked boxer.  He would get his head knocked off.

Erm, no he wouldn't.

In a boxing ring with boxing rules yes, - in an Octagon however, highly unlikely. Okay, everyone has a puncher's chance but once that boxer is on the floor and fighting to avoid submission, it's all over.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 02:30:57 AM »
When your biggest fans are women and teenagers yeah it's definitely a kick ass sport!   ::)

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 02:33:46 AM »
I think it comes down to this..MMA fighters can't compete with boxers hands and footwork, just in the same respect boxers can't compete with MMA fighters grappling, takedowns, clinch, ground game, kicks, knees..

fair enough?

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 02:35:27 AM »
Couture against a 20 year old Tyson wouldn't even be funny.  Now Couture against an average or subpar heavyweight what do you expect?  There hasn't been a decent heavyweight for how many years?  Toney is/was a fucking joke.  

Plus in the street a heavy weight boxer would demolish a guy like Couture anyways.  People that extrapolate what they see in a padded octagon to a real life street fight are retards.  It's easy to throw kicks when you are in your barefeet on a nice flat, padded surface with shorts on.  It's easy not having to worry about your surroundings when you're in a perfectly round octagon with net sides and great lighting.  LOL......MMA fighting is so far removed from real fighting it's hilarious.  So of course a boxer isn't going to do much against a Couture MMAer.  That's like putting a rugby player up against a basketball player.  

Serious question: How is MMA, which places far, far less rules and restrictions on their athletes than boxing so far removed from a real fight that it's "hilarious" when presumably a street fight means no rules?

 

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 02:36:04 AM »
I think it comes down to this..MMA fighters can't compete with boxers hands and footwork, just in the same respect boxers can't compete with MMA fighters grappling, takedowns, clinch, ground game, kicks, knees..

fair enough?


Some MMA fighters have become pro boxers though.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 02:41:10 AM »
I think it comes down to this..MMA fighters can't compete with boxers hands and footwork, just in the same respect boxers can't compete with MMA fighters grappling, takedowns, clinch, ground game, kicks, knees..

fair enough?


I have noticed that MMA fans as well as MMA fighters themselves have no problem admitting that they would get crushed by a boxer if they stepped into the ring fighting under boxing rules. I also find it curious that it is the boxing fans, such as McMannus and Avery, that presume to speak for pro boxers, that claim that a boxer, of equal skill to an MMA fighter would beat them under any rules -- MMA or no rules street fighting. I have never heard, nor do I think I will ever hear, a top ranked pro boxer saying he could beat an MMA fighter in the Octagon or in the street. I think they are far more aware than most the limitation of their sport.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 02:46:04 AM »
Some MMA fighters have become pro boxers though.
They are not in the league of "great" boxers...that's like saying Peter Putnam is a Pro bodybuilder, yes he is, but he couldn't even hold Derek Farnsworth's thong...

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 03:05:34 AM »
I have noticed that MMA fans as well as MMA fighters themselves have no problem admitting that they would get crushed by a boxer if they stepped into the ring fighting under boxing rules. I also find it curious that it is the boxing fans, such as McMannus and Avery, that presume to speak for pro boxers, that claim that a boxer, of equal skill to an MMA fighter would beat them under any rules -- MMA or no rules street fighting. I have never heard, nor do I think I will ever hear, a top ranked pro boxer saying he could beat an MMA fighter in the Octagon or in the street. I think they are far more aware than most the limitation of their sport.

LOL.....So you're saying there is no difference between a pro boxer fighting someone in the street vs. fighting someone in an octagon with rules and a nice soft mat with which you can go to the ground on?  If a parking lot an MMA fighters ground game is practically eliminated.  Western boxing is one of the most formidable styles of fighting to know in a real fight.  Plus all a boxer has to do if some MMA guy tries to grab him or put a lock no him or some other gay shit on the ground is pull a Tyson holyfield and bite his ear off.  LMAO! 

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 03:07:48 AM »
Anyone who thinks this shit is practical and realistic in a real fight out in the street, a parking lot, a bar, etc. needs their head checked.   ::)


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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 03:11:16 AM »
Of course it's a legit sport,  MMA = sport.  Bodybuilding= not so much. 

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2010, 03:13:41 AM »
LOL.....So you're saying there is no difference between a pro boxer fighting someone in the street vs. fighting someone in an octagon with rules and a nice soft mat with which you can go to the ground on?  If a parking lot an MMA fighters ground game is practically eliminated.  Western boxing is one of the most formidable styles of fighting to know in a real fight.  Plus all a boxer has to do if some MMA guy tries to grab him or put a lock no him or some other gay shit on the ground is pull a Tyson holyfield and bite his ear off.  LMAO! 
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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2010, 03:13:59 AM »


I'm sure  an MMA fighter would have no problem doing this shit on concrete, in a bar or in a parking lot? LMAO!  

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2010, 03:18:32 AM »
Serious question: How is MMA, which places far, far less rules and restrictions on their athletes than boxing so far removed from a real fight that it's "hilarious" when presumably a street fight means no rules?

 

You teach a boxer like Vladamir Klitschkoe basic defense against kicks and put him in a no holds barred gloveless fight against an MMA guy in a parking lot and I GUARANTEE the MMA guy would get his ass kicked.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2010, 03:19:17 AM »
LOL.....So you're saying there is no difference between a pro boxer fighting someone in the street vs. fighting someone in an octagon with rules and a nice soft mat with which you can go to the ground on?  If a parking lot an MMA fighters ground game is practically eliminated.  Western boxing is one of the most formidable styles of fighting to know in a real fight.  Plus all a boxer has to do if some MMA guy tries to grab him or put a lock no him or some other gay shit on the ground is pull a Tyson holyfield and bite his ear off.  LMAO!  

Well, you didn't answer my simple and direct question so I will pose it again just in case it wasn't clear. Why would a fighting style which places far more restrictions on a person's ability to defend himself be more effective than a style that has far less restrictions in a street fight where there are no restrictions.

And another question, and I'm simply going to have to trust your honesty and integrity, how many street fights have you had in you life? I can say that just getting through the 10th grade in the Hawaii public school system alone I probably had about 20. I recently, six months ago, had an altercation in a parking lot and it went to the ground. I effortlessly mounted, drop some B's on the thug, as he turned around on his stomach I didn't choke him out just yet, I grinded his face into the asphalt a bit so that his face will look very nice the next day. Then I choked him unconscious. My ears, or any other part of me, were never in danger of being bitten.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2010, 03:27:50 AM »

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2010, 03:32:27 AM »
Well, you didn't answer my simply and direct question so I will pose it again just in case it wasn't clear. Why would a fighting style which places far more restrictions on a person's ability to defend himself be more effective than a style that has far less restrictions in a street fight where there are no restrictions.

And another question, and I'm simply going to have to trust your honesty and integrity, how many street fights have you had in you life? I can say that just getting through the 10th grade in the Hawaii public school system alone I probably had about 20. I recently, six months ago, had an altercation in a parking lot and it went to the ground. I effortlessly mounted, drop some B's on the thug, as he turned around on his stomach I didn't choke him out just yet, I grinded his face into the asphalt a bit so that his face will look very nice the next day. Then I choked him unconscious. My ears, or any other part of me, were never in danger of being bitten.


You obviously didn't watch the video I just posted.  You act like a boxer is only going to punch in a street fight.  Look at the boxer in the above video.  He's kicking as well.  Look at the MMA guy go to the ground and drop on his back.  Yeah that's very realistic in a street fight  ::)


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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2010, 03:34:58 AM »
You teach a boxer like Vladamir Klitschkoe basic defense against kicks and put him in a no holds barred gloveless fight against an MMA guy in a parking lot and I GUARANTEE the MMA guy would get his ass kicked.

So you admit that a boxer would have to expand his skill set to have a chance with an MMA fighter. I have no problem with that. All else being equal, say two clones, a Mike Tyson1 against a Mike Tyson2 with D1 wrestling skills, Muy Thai, Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt... Mike Tyson1 wouldn't have a prayer.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2010, 03:38:16 AM »
Randy C said himself he would never have fought a 21 year old Mike Tyson under any rules as he had scary power, speed and was just plain scary!

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2010, 03:38:55 AM »
But to answer the original q, yeh mma v boxer 99% of the time will easily be an mma win. Boxings dead.