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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2010, 03:39:46 AM »
You obviously didn't watch the video I just posted.  You act like a boxer is only going to punch in a street fight.  Look at the boxer in the above video.  He's kicking as well.  Look at the MMA guy go to the ground and drop on his back.  Yeah that's very realistic in a street fight  ::)



One video means nothing. Your argument is about a boxer. When you say boxer I assume you mean a pure American boxer. In American boxing there are no kicks. Once a boxer kicks then he becomes a kick boxer and yes I believe, all else being equal, a kick boxer is superior in no holds bar fighting than a boxer.

You might as well say, "You act like a boxer is only going to punch in a street fight. Look at this video where he does a single leg, mounts, and finishes off his opponent with an Americana."

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2010, 03:41:34 AM »

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2010, 03:42:42 AM »
Randy C said himself he would never have fought a 21 year old Mike Tyson under any rules as he had scary power, speed and was just plain scary!

QFT. And again I want to bring up the point I made earlier that MMA fighter and fans freely admit that an MMA fighter has no chance against a boxer in the ring, or anywhere else, fighting under boxing rules. It's the boxing fans, never the boxers themselves, that presume to speak for the real athletes and make these meaningless comparisons and boasts about the superiority of boxing in a street fight.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2010, 03:43:29 AM »

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2010, 03:44:49 AM »
These threads are fucking gay, give up this stupid arguement. 

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2010, 03:47:10 AM »
These threads are fucking gay, give up this stupid arguement. 

Participation or even noticing threads like these are purely optional, my friend.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2010, 03:47:15 AM »
One video means nothing. Your argument is about a boxer. When you say boxer I assume you mean a pure American boxer. In American boxing there is no kicks. Once a boxer kicks then he becomes a kick boxer and yes I believe, all else being equal, a kick boxer is superior in no holds bar fighting than a boxer.

You might as well say, "You act like a boxer is only going to punch in a street fight. Look at this video where he does a single leg, mounts, and finishes off his opponent with an Americana."

 ::)  Let's put it this way slick.....I'd rather be an expert in boxing and a novice in kicking and grappling in a street fight vs. being a novice in boxing and an expert in kicking and grappling.  It's doesn't take years and years of training to learn how to kick.  Nor does it take years and years of training to learn how to grapple and most of the time in a real fight grappling isn't very effective.  Hence, when it comes down to it....I'd much rather be able to throw some powerful fucking punches on some motherfuckers, with speed and precision.  A good boxer is 10x faster than your best MMA guy at throwing a solid punch.  A jab is one of the most effective skills in a fight short of kicking.  Plus boxers are used to taking punches to the head.  This silly debate could go on and on.  Put Randy Couture in a parking lot and a Mike Tyson and the latter would fucking destroy the former.  That's about as realistic as MMA fighting is in the street.  In other words let me put it to you in fucking retard terms so you can understand........put the BEST that boxing has to offer i.e. MIKE TYSON vs. the best that MMA has to offer aka Chuck Liddell or Couture or jackass Jackson and Tyson would destroy any of them.  That's my point.  James Toney is probably the worst boxing has to offer going up against the best MMA has to offer. 

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2010, 03:49:56 AM »
Participation or even noticing threads like these are purely optional, my friend.

Could we at least make a sticky and just have one gigantic BOXING V. MMA Thread,  This is the new Dorian vs. Ronnie on Getbig. 

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2010, 03:50:42 AM »
So you admit that a boxer would have to expand his skill set to have a chance with an MMA fighter. I have no problem with that. All else being equal, say two clones, a Mike Tyson1 against a Mike Tyson2 with D1 wrestling skills, Muy Thai, Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt... Mike Tyson1 wouldn't have a prayer.

Dude of course they would have to expand their skill set a little bit.  I'm talking a few weeks of training not years.  I mean dude otherwise the entire debate makes no sense.  Like I said in my other thread a great boxer with a little bit of kicking skill and grappling skill would demolish a great grappler or kicker with a little bit of boxing skill.  All else being equal.  Western boxing is probably one of the best skills to have in general in a fight.  Most fights don't last more than a few seconds.  

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2010, 03:50:53 AM »


it depends.  kh went after him like a guy in a street fight.  it depends.  either way if you arent trained you dont wont to fight either.  see kimbo FL fights and MMA who ko'ed guy who hit girl.

bye.

as noted put anderson silva in a gym in detroit a yr and put a top
MW boxer in chute box for a yr =  ??? in a fight

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2010, 03:51:36 AM »

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2010, 03:54:12 AM »
Boxers do everything they can to stay on their feet in a fight......most MMA guys sole goal is to go to the ground.  Now in a real street fight on concrete which would you rather be better at?  Going to the ground or staying on your feet able to throw powerful, fast punches.  Size also matters.  If I'm 6'5 and I'm fighting some midget grappler who is 5'9 and I'm a great boxer....the poor little fucker wouldn't have a chance.  LOL......again size matters.  That's why James Toney and Randy Couture were pretty much equal in size and stature.

Ask me this question......why did the MMA instill weight classes and why are most matches evenly paired up these days?  How come you never see a BJ Penn going up against a dude twice his size?  Because he'd get his ass handed to him.  The MMA has completely changed what the previous point of the idea was.  

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2010, 03:55:43 AM »

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2010, 03:56:49 AM »

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2010, 03:58:22 AM »


Dude no one is really paying attention to your gay ass pictures.  Fuck off!

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2010, 03:58:29 AM »


stan lee would have a heart attack.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2010, 03:59:35 AM »
You teach a boxer like Vladamir Klitschkoe basic defense against kicks and put him in a no holds barred gloveless fight against an MMA guy in a parking lot and I GUARANTEE the MMA guy would get his ass kicked.

It's not the kicks he has to worry about. The boxer has no idea how to defend against anything but punches standing up.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2010, 04:00:54 AM »
::)  Let's put it this way slick.....I'd rather be an expert in boxing and a novice in kicking and grappling in a street fight vs. being a novice in boxing and an expert in kicking and grappling.  It's doesn't take years and years of training to learn how to kick.  Nor does it take years and years of training to learn how to grapple and most of the time in a real fight grappling isn't very effective.  Hence, when it comes down to it....I'd much rather be able to throw some powerful fucking punches on some motherfuckers, with speed and precision.  A good boxer is 10x faster than your best MMA guy at throwing a solid punch.  A jab is one of the most effective skills in a fight short of kicking.  Plus boxers are used to taking punches to the head.  This silly debate could go on and on.  Put Randy Couture in a parking lot and a Mike Tyson and the latter would fucking destroy the former.  That's about as realistic as MMA fighting is in the street.  In other words let me put it to you in fucking retard terms so you can understand........put the BEST that boxing has to offer i.e. MIKE TYSON vs. the best that MMA has to offer aka Chuck Liddell or Couture or jackass Jackson and Tyson would destroy any of them.  That's my point.  James Toney is probably the worst boxing has to offer going up against the best MMA has to offer. 

I see now why you garner so little respect on this board. All your arguments are emotion based. Your responses are emotionally charged. You are unable to answer a simple question with a logical, reasoned and coherent response. You simply rant. You are like a woman. That probably explains why you gravitated towards a woman's profession. I'm sure I probably have been in more street fights by the time I was twelve than you had in your entire life. In my adult life the majority of the street fights I have been in have been parking lots. There has been altercations in bathrooms and I guess what could be called alleys and some in beaches and parks. There is plenty of room to clinch and wrestle and go to the ground. There often isn't very much room, as in the bathroom, to do any fancy foot work or bob, weave and jab.

Because you lack any semblance of rationality and logic and simply emote like a woman, I'm going to have to dismiss you. There is no point in trying to reason with someone who lacks the ability to reason. But I will do you a favor and tell you something that your daddy, if you had one, should have told you and perhaps could have saved you from the homosexual experiences you have had that has left you confused and ambivalent and maybe even gotten you into a male profession. And that is simply to tell you to "ACT LIKE A MAN!"

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2010, 04:04:04 AM »
Dude no one is really paying attention to your gay ass pictures.  Fuck off!

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2010, 04:04:22 AM »
I see now why you garner so little respect on this board. All your arguments are emotion based. Your responses are emotionally charged. You are unable to answer a simple question with a logical, reasoned and coherent response. You simply rant. You are like a woman. That probably explains why you gravitated towards a woman's profession. I'm sure I probably have been in more street fights by the time I was twelve than you had in your entire life. In my adult life the majority of the street fights I have been in have been parking lots. There has been altercations in bathrooms and I guess what could be called alleys and some in beaches and parks. There is plenty of room to clinch and wrestle and go to the ground. There often isn't very much room, as in the bathroom, to do any fancy foot work or bob, weave and jab.

Because you lack any semblance of rationality and logic and simply emote like a woman, I'm going to have to dismiss you. There is no point in trying to reason with someone who lacks the ability to reason. But I will do you a favor and tell you something that your daddy, if you had one, should have told you and perhaps could have saved you from the homosexual experiences you have had that has left you confused and ambivalent and maybe even gotten you into a male profession. And that is simply to tell you to "ACT LIKE A MAN!"


Haha you're a fucking retard.  Aren't  you the same fag older dude that trains with bands in school playgrounds and went on and on about a gorrilla vs. bear thread?  At least I have a fucking job you epic fucking loser.  You're probably a grown ass man with no life, no woman and no income.  How old are you tough guy?  45? 

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2010, 04:08:32 AM »
MMA is Too Legit to quit. 

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #46 on: August 30, 2010, 04:10:27 AM »
Haha you're a fucking retard.  Aren't  you the same fag older dude that trains with bands in school playgrounds and went on and on about a gorrilla vs. bear thread?  At least I have a fucking job you epic fucking loser.  You're probably a grown ass man with no life, no woman and no income.  How old are you tough guy?  45? 

Actually, I was never on the thread you speak of. Never been in a band. I'm an engineer. I live on the beach in Hawaii, the most expensive State in the Union. But, you're right, I am old. Just turned 50. This is a pic of my old and decrepit body taken a few days ago. I'm sure you could put me to shame with your polish, fighting ready, physique. Post one up, nurse.

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2010, 04:12:23 AM »
is there someone who could touch you pellius

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2010, 04:13:06 AM »
is there someone who could touch you pellius

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Re: Boxing vs MMA
« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2010, 04:15:53 AM »
I see now why you garner so little respect on this board. All your arguments are emotion based. Your responses are emotionally charged. You are unable to answer a simple question with a logical, reasoned and coherent response. You simply rant. You are like a woman.

McMannus is a troll. It's his game. He's not supposed to make any sense.  :o