Boxing vs MMA

[SS]

Yeah but you on the other hand.....

[benchmstr]

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[MindSpin]

Biting, fish hooking, eye gouging, and groin kicks/punches were NEVER allowed in the UFC.  They would cause irrepairable damage if they were allowed.     I mean think about how retarded that statement is.  You think Gracie would have gone all those years being a champion if some guy would have bitten a chunk out of his leg or arm or smashed him in the groin?  Or stuck a finger through his eye? 

I never said biting, eye-gouging, etc. were allowed.  Head-butting, soccer kicks, hair pulling, kidney strikes, strikes to the back of the head, 12-6 elbows & groin kicks where in fact allowed (do your homework).  Also, there were no weight limits and no rounds.  It was as close to a real fight as you could get an they trained to defend against those tactics and to apply them.  If everything was allowed today, they would train for everything.  Boxers would still train just to box.  In other words, MMA will always beat boxing.

[MoralMan]

Dumbest post ever and its obvious you have NEVER EVER been in a real fight.Every fight I have ever been in and seen goes to the ground.NEVER have I seen a fight remain standing up.A shootfighter or wrestler would kill a boxer.All they have to do is shoot on the guy,cover up enough not to get knocked out,it goes to the ground and the boxer gets destroyed.Not even a contest.A world class wrestler like Couture would kill ANY boxer on earth.

Erm Randy himself said he would not have beaten Mike Tyson in a street fight.

[MindSpin]

Erm Randy himself said he would not have beaten Mike Tyson in a street fight.

He didn't say a "street fight". 

[tonymctones]

LOL mcanus coming across as a person who has never trained in any type of fighting style and certainly as someone who has never been in or seen many street fights...

the MAJORITY OF FIGHTS go to the ground....MAJORITY OF STREET FIGHTS go to the ground for one reason or another...someone trips, gets knocked down, thrown, taken down...

one thing you should probably know mcanus is that MMA fighters actually know how to fall, yes there is technique to falling or being thrown. So when you say that you wouldnt be able to do the same things in a street fight as you would during an MMA fight the vast majority of take downs you would still be able to use.

You dont have to go all the way to the ground to do a single leg, there are also a hundred other ways couture could have taken toney to the ground and that you can take someone to the ground in a street fight.

LOL you know how I know youve never been in a fight? youre worried about getting your knees and elbows scraped by going to the ground...

LMAO YOURE IN A FIGHT, you dont even notice that shit until after its over thats not something that youre thinking about. What youre thinking about is kicking this persons ass not oh I cant do that I might rip my pants.

[Krankenstein]

You're just as clueless as he is.

Hardly....I was wrong about fighter (as evident from video above)....but look at the fight between Kimo and Royce Gracie....about 40sec in...groin shots.  The kind that would have the fight stopped for "recovery" from fighter being struck

Anything else?

[kiwiol]

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lol @ the pic title

[Cleanest Natural]

everyone is underestimating really talented fighter and athletic .. tyson .. roy jones .. the chain smoking colombian

[che]

In a street fight (club / bar....etc ) the last place you want to be is on the ground .

                                                                                                                I hope this helps.

[tonymctones]

In a street fight (club / bar....etc ) the last place you want to be is on the ground .

                                                                                                                I hope this helps.

agreed as ive stated many many times, but mcanus is basically stating that if that fight had happend in the streets it would have had a different outcome.

take away the getting shived by the guys friend or whatever...one on one an mma fighter is still beating the shit out of a boxer 99 times out a 100 in a street fight.

[MindSpin]

In a street fight (club / bar....etc ) the last place you want to be is on the ground .

                                                                                                                I hope this helps.

it may be the last place you want it to go, but if you're up against someone with wrestling/BJJ training, that's exactly where it will end up.

[che]

agreed as ive stated many many times, but mcanus is basically stating that if that fight had happend in the streets it would have had a different outcome.

take away the getting shived by the guys friend or whatever...one on one an mma fighter is still beating the shit out of a boxer 99 times out a 100 in a street fight.

Not necessarily a fight is a fight,
First of all many street fights go to the ground because 99% of the time these fights are between untrained fighters,when you don't know how to throw a punch your first instinct is to grab or hold,  just like a chick fight ( hair pulling )
Second of all  in the street you don't know who you are fighting (no Bruce Buffers announcing )no time to prepare.
even a MMA guy will try to beat you standing  first , if that don't work then  he will go for the takedown .
Last but no least , say you have a boxer and a wrestler arguing 3-4  feet apart  ,whoever  pull the trigger first (wrestler takedown or boxer sucker punch) usually would  win that fight.

[che]

it may be the last place you want it to go, but if you're up against someone with wrestling/BJJ training, that's exactly where it will end up.

Not necessarily

[MindSpin]

Not necessarily

uh, unless you have trained for takedown defense, you will be going to the ground.  Ask James Toney.  He trained to defend takedowns for 9 months and still wound up on his back without being able to throw a single punch.

[che]

uh, unless you have trained for takedown defense, you will be going to the ground.  Ask James Toney.  He trained to defend takedowns for 9 months and still wound up on his back without being able to throw a single punch.

You are an idiot I can't waste my time with you .

[tonymctones]

Not necessarily a fight is a fight,
First of all many street fights go to the ground because 99% of the time these fights are between untrained fighters,when you don't know how to throw a punch your first instinct is to grab or hold,  just like a chick fight ( hair pulling )
Second of all  in the street you don't know who you are fighting (no Bruce Buffers announcing )no time to prepare.
even a MMA guy will try to beat you standing  first , if that don't work then  he will go for the takedown .
Last but no least , say you have a boxer and a wrestler arguing 3-4  feet apart  ,whoever  pull the trigger first (wrestler takedown or boxer sucker punch) usually would  win that fight.

LOL i agree with most of this but it doesnt matter what reason they guys grab on to one another look at boxers in a match how many times do they end up hugging each other? shit doesnt fly with a person who knows how to take you down especially if they know how to throw you, that will end the fight right there no need to ground and pound.

barring sucker punches the vast majority of times an mma guy is going to beat a strictly boxer in a fight...

[che]

barring sucker punches

street fighting = no rules

[tonymctones]

street fighting = no rules

correct by that logic though an mma guy just walks up behind him at the bar and chokes him out...

so you could say the win 100% of the time 

or the boxer has brass knuckles...you see

what this conversation was about was in the context of a street...not a no holds bar type fight...

and I hate to break it to you che but even with sucker punches mma ppl are beating strictly boxers the vast vast majority of the time

[che]

correct by that logic though an mma guy just walks up behind him at the bar and chokes him out...

so you could say the win 100% of the time 

or the boxer has brass knuckles...you see

what this conversation was about was in the context of a street...not a no holds bar type fight...

and I hate to break it to you che but even with sucker punches mma ppl are beating strictly boxers the vast vast majority of the time

I didn't want to say it  , I hate to brake it to you but I'm 2-0 against wrestlers in a street fight 

[tonymctones]

I didn't want to say it  , I hate to brake it to you but I'm 2-0 against wrestlers in a street fight 

LOL how do you know they were wrestlers?

[MindSpin]

I didn't want to say it  , I hate to brake it to you but I'm 2-0 against wrestlers in a street fight 

Really?  How did you stuff their takedown attempts?

[che]

LOL how do you know they were wrestlers?

The first one   was a wrestler in HS
The second one (long story short ) we were in a club downtown and  two guys  were wearing white ( Fruit of the Loom) wifebeaters ,I was a little bit drunk and say something stupid  making fun of them ,one of the guy turned around pushed me and I clocked him ,he was out .later that night I found out that the guys were wrestlers at the Uof M.

[MindSpin]

The first one   was a wrestler in HS
The second one (long story short ) we were in a club downtown and  two guys  were wearing white ( Fruit of the Loom) wifebeaters ,I was a little bit drunk and say something stupid  making fun of them ,one of the guy turned around pushed me and I clocked him ,he was out .later that night I found out that the guys were wrestlers at the Uof M.

So the 2nd one didn't even attempt to use his wrestling.  He just pushed you and you KO's him.  What about this 1st one?  Did he go for a takedown?

[che]

What about this 1st one?  Did he go for a takedown?

Yeah , I didn't know he was a wrestler I wasn't  expecting a take down , he took me down  I couldn't move ( twisted like a Pretzel)   I bit his arm    and he let me go I got  up and I beat his ass until he quit .