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Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« on: September 06, 2010, 07:33:45 PM »
What are your thoughts on the controversial song and video?

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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 09:41:40 PM »
1)  I want to sleep with Rihanna (sp)
2)  I want to sleep with Meagan Fox
3)  Still can't belive the dude is married to the hot chick from Lost.
4)  good song, good video...see number 1 & 2

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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 01:31:24 PM »
What are your thoughts on the controversial song and video?



Pathetic....REALLY pathetic


everyone goes thru the " lost in the romance of my own trajedy "  phase at some point...i did also....

most of up friggin grow out of it by 22

unless she is younger than that...

very teenage angst ish...




but then again...i like this song :-\




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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 01:40:35 PM »
Pathetic....REALLY pathetic



What kind of message do you think it's sending to today's youth?
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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 02:27:44 PM »
What kind of message do you think it's sending to today's youth?
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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 03:38:14 PM »
What kind of message do you think it's sending to today's youth?

it's almost ok to be abusive

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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 11:42:46 AM »
What are your thoughts on the controversial song and video?


What kind of message do you think it's sending to today's youth?


IMO it's does nothing but give young ones a basis to think being treated badly is "normal' and acceptable if not sort of cool too

When I see things like this .. and the popularity of such things .. it leaves me with little belief that this world will get better in any way

It's like no one gives a second thought as to what they produce and sell to the masses of youth .. who are our future

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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 03:00:38 PM »
What kind of message do you think it's sending to today's youth?

"Abuse is sexy."
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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 07:04:34 PM »
Nice sound, good looking women in the video, but whoever wrote those lyrics is attracted to abusive relationships and believes it's "alright because I like the way it hurts."

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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 08:05:23 PM »
I find it incredibly disturbing, but I do kinda like the song - the melody, not the words
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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 08:20:28 PM »
still wanna bone rihanna

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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2010, 02:17:13 AM »
Didn't Rihanna get assaulted several times by her ex-boyfriend, Chris Brown?  Didn't she keet going back to him until she finally realized it wasn't good for her image so she finally dumped him?  Who knows, maybe she is still seeing him, getting beat up, in secret.


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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2010, 06:48:37 AM »
Didn't Rihanna get assaulted several times by her ex-boyfriend, Chris Brown?  Didn't she keet going back to him until she finally realized it wasn't good for her image so she finally dumped him?  Who knows, maybe she is still seeing him, getting beat up, in secret.



I think she is dating someone else.
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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2010, 10:32:05 AM »
I find it incredibly disturbing, but I do kinda like the song - the melody, not the words

"If she ever tries to f*cking leave again
I'mma tie her to the bed
And set the house on fire


Just gonna stand there
And watch me burn
But that's alright
Because I like
The way it hurts"
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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2010, 11:27:13 AM »
"If she ever tries to f*cking leave again
I'mma tie her to the bed
And set the house on fire


Just gonna stand there
And watch me burn
But that's alright
Because I like
The way it hurts"




Pathetic....REALLY pathetic

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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2010, 01:22:11 PM »


i think this actually sends a valuable message...unlike the trash previously posted...

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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2010, 10:00:57 AM »

"Abuse is sexy."



Nice sound, good looking women in the video, but whoever wrote those lyrics is attracted to abusive relationships and believes it's "alright because I like the way it hurts."



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Re: Disturbing, Powerful or Both?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2011, 01:49:34 PM »
Rihanna sends conflicting messages

Fri Feb 4, 2011

Is Rihanna sending mixed messages on domestic violence? Since her relationship with singer Chris Brown ended--after he was arrested for punching her in the face, Rihanna's lyrics have, at times, seemed to justify violence. In "Love The Way You Lie," her rap duet with Eminem, she justified staying in an abusive relationship.

In her latest video, "S&M," she uses graphic images and lyrics to make her case for retribution. The video has reportedly been banned in 11 countries.

In a November 2009 interview with 20/20, Rihanna said she was sharing her story of abuse in hopes of helping young girls. "I will say to any girl going through domestic violence, 'Come out of this. Look at it third person for what it really is,'" she said.

But what should those girls make of the "S&M" video? In the Melina Matsoukas directed piece, Rihanna institutes payback to sensationalistic reporters, enslaving offenders in a torture chamber, tying them with rope, gagging them, and whipping another. Elsewhere, media villain Perez Hilton poses as a dog on a leash.

Rihanna is both victim and perpetrator here. But is this message empowering? Does it advocate fighting back? Or is it just titillating in the same sense of Lady Gaga's homicide-themed "Paparazzi" or Katy Perry's gratuitous "California Gurls" videos?

There is a conflict between the messages Rihanna conveys in her music and the press. It would be great if she made an uplifting song of triumph. But the angst-fueled songs appear to be a part of her healing.

Hopefully, she'll eventually move beyond this dark stage.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/364961/why-is-rihanna-singing-about-violence/?nc