This is why I love MMA

[Nails]

James Toney was fat, old and washed up, you really think he even trained a day for that fight? He stole Dana whites money,and make MMA look like the WWE.

[mesmorph78]

Missed the point completley

[che]

James Toney was fat, old and washed up, you really think he even trained a day for that fight? He stole Dana whites money,and make MMA look like the WWE.

He didn't steal Dana's money both got what they wanted out of this fight .

[pellius]

Tank Abbott is this guy a skilled fighter ... No just a strong guy who can punch and in his heyday he silenced a lot of critics... He dominated a lot of mma "fighters" by purely being strong and being able to brawl.
Do you think they could give him a pair of boding gloves and put him in a boxing ring and tell him to go dominate a world class heavyweight.... Boxer 
A lot of you are living in denial

NO MMA FIGHTERS OR THEIR FANS CLAIM THAT ANY MMA FIGHTER CAN BEAT A WORLD CLASS BOXER IN THE RING UNDER BOXING RULES!!!!!!! HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS POINT HAVE TO BE MADE???

Friend, it is the boxers, well actually the boxing fans like Avery, who claim that boxers can beat MMA fighers in the cage and in the street. We, MMA fans, simply state that A BOXER, FIGHTER SOLELY AS A BOXER, MEANING NO MUY THAI, WRESTLING OR JIU-JITSU TRAINING WILL HAVE NO CHANCE IN THE CAGE AND IN THE STREET.

Boxing is a highly skilled and specialized sport. They can only punch and only have to protect their face and upper body. They don't have to defend against kicks, elbows, take downs and submissions. Boxers only get mad respect from MMA fighters and fans. It is the boxers, rather just the boxing fans, that seem threaten by MMA and are constantly criticizing the sport and claiming they would not hold up to boxers in the street.

[Jaime]

Pellius that was a lot of dissrespect for Judo in your earlier post. A lot of Judokai's train no gi and a lot of guys put a decent focus on ne-waza, try not to generalize so much. Kimura had his way with Helios before the Gracies fully realised self promotion. Down to the individual.

[pellius]

Pellius that was a lot of dissrespect for Judo in your earlier post. A lot of Judokai's train no gi and a lot of guys put a decent focus on ne-waza, try not to generalize so much. Kimura had his way with Helios before the Gracies fully realised self promotion. Down to the individual.

You are correct. I tend to be a hot head and shoot off my mouth and be a real dick. Judo and Jiu-Jitsu are intimately related.
Apologies to the poster.

[MindSpin]

Tank Abbott is this guy a skilled fighter ... No just a strong guy who can punch and in his heyday he silenced a lot of critics... He dominated a lot of mma "fighters" by purely being strong and being able to brawl.
Do you think they could give him a pair of boding gloves and put him in a boxing ring and tell him to go dominate a world class heavyweight.... Boxer  
A lot of you are living in denial

Do you really think that being "strong" and "able to brawl" is enough to be a successful MMA fighter  That's exactly what Kimbo Slice was.  The "badass street fighter" that would kill all the "mma guys".  Yet, he was utterly embarrassed when he give it his all in MMA.

And, even though Kimbo sucked that bad, he still managed to beat piss out of Tank Abbot (see link below).  Speaking of Tank, not sure why you keep bringing him up.  He was a complete embarrassment to MMA.  Just so you know, his record is 10 wins and 14 losses.  None of the wins that he has, are over any notable opponents.  Get this, most of the no-name fighters he beat, have more losses on their records than they do wins.  One guy has 7 wins and 20 losses...lol.  Another guy, 0 wins and 5 losses.

Tank is exactly what you're talking about Meso, a no skill brawler.  And, that is why he failed so miserably against skilled MMA fighters.

Here is clip of Tank, in his prime, getting dominated by a "no skill mma guy".  Tank begs for the ref to stop the fight...lol.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTAzMTkxMDky.html

[bodybuilder1234]

kimbo has decent boxing skill in that vid, nice counter right hand

[FREAKgeek]

Tank Abbott is this guy a skilled fighter ... No just a strong guy who can punch and in his heyday he silenced a lot of critics... He dominated a lot of mma "fighters" by purely being strong and being able to brawl.
Do you think they could give him a pair of boding gloves and put him in a boxing ring and tell him to go dominate a world class heavyweight.... Boxer 
A lot of you are living in denial

It's not your father's MMA anymore.

That was 15 years ago; it was a nascent sport. UFC back then was more of an open challenge and contest to anyone that, quite frankly, had the balls.

[Nails]

Do you really think that being "strong" and "able to brawl" is enough to be a successful MMA fighter  That's exactly what Kimbo Slice was.  The "badass street fighter" that would kill all the "mma guys".  Yet, he was utterly embarrassed when he give it his all in MMA.

And, even though Kimbo sucked that bad, he still managed to beat piss out of Tank Abbot (see link below).  Speaking of Tank, not sure why you keep bringing him up.  He was a complete embarrassment to MMA.  Just so you know, his record is 10 wins and 14 losses.  None of the wins that he has, are over any notable opponents.  Get this, most of the no-name fighters he beat, have more losses on their records than they do wins.  One guy has 7 wins and 20 losses...lol.  Another guy, 0 wins and 5 losses.

Tank is exactly what you're talking about Meso, a no skill brawler.  And, that is why he failed so miserably against skilled MMA fighters.

Here is clip of Tank, in his prime, getting dominated by a "no skill mma guy".  Tank begs for the ref to stop the fight...lol.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTAzMTkxMDky.html

37 yr old tank was at his prime against a 23yr old frank mir 

[Palpatine Q]

MMA is for penis-lickers

LOL @ 40 year old men practicing their "takedowns" and then showering together looking at each other's units.....

[MindSpin]

MMA is for penis-lickers

LOL @ 40 year old men practicing their "takedowns" and then showering together looking at each other's units.....

The only time I've seen ghey shit go down, has been in Bally's Fitness and Gold's gyms.  Twice I've seen juiced up horndogs stroking in the showers.  I've never seen it in a boxing, BJJ or MMA gym...

[mesmorph78]

Mindspin don't be biased tank destroyed some mma fighters in his prime... Why post a clip of him losing and not one of him punching the daylights out of a few of this "mixed martial arts" guys... Tank at 37 and  fighting a younger faster 23 year old is not an example of tank at his prime ... Anyway like I said brawled who battered skilled mma fighters . Mindspin old friend were gonna have to disagree on this one
to me MMA is garbage...

[Palpatine Q]

The only time I've seen ghey shit go down, has been in Bally's Fitness and Gold's gyms.  Twice I've seen juiced up horndogs stroking in the showers.  I've never seen it in a boxing, BJJ or MMA gym...

I'm just messing around MS........People get all jumpy protecting their MMA "beliefs"

[MindSpin]

Mindspin don't be biased tank destroyed some mma fighters in his prime... Why post a clip of him losing and not one of him punching the daylights out of a few of this "mixed martial arts" guys... Tank at 37 and  fighting a younger faster 23 year old is not an example of tank at his prime ... Anyway like I said brawled who battered skilled mma fighters . Mindspin old friend were gonna have to disagree on this one
to me MMA is garbage...

Please name one legitimate MMA fighter that Tank beat...just one.

[MindSpin]

I'm just messing around MS........People get all jumpy protecting their MMA "beliefs"

oh good.  I was just getting ready to challenge you to a cage match :-P

[Rami]

James Toney was fat, old and washed up, you really think he even trained a day for that fight? He stole Dana whites money,and make MMA look like the WWE.

They both grabbed the money out of the fans buying this card because of this fight

[mesmorph78]

Please name one legitimate MMA fighter that Tank beat...just one.

legitmate by whose standards???

[MindSpin]

Mindspin don't be biased tank destroyed some mma fighters in his prime... Why post a clip of him losing and not one of him punching the daylights out of a few of this "mixed martial arts" guys... Tank at 37 and  fighting a younger faster 23 year old is not an example of tank at his prime ... Anyway like I said brawled who battered skilled mma fighters . Mindspin old friend were gonna have to disagree on this one
to me MMA is garbage...

Here's another great Tank Moment.  Here Tank is 30 years old....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3859924758125491807#

[Nails]

The only time I've seen ghey shit go down, has been in Bally's Fitness and Gold's gyms.  Twice I've seen juiced up horndogs stroking in the showers.  I've never seen it in a boxing, BJJ or MMA gym...

[MindSpin]

legitmate by whose standards???

Meaning they have a record with more wins than loses, and those wins are over guys with legit records.  Let me save you the trouble.  The closest thing to a legit fighter that Tank has a win over, is Cabbage.  They each beat each other once.  The other nine wins are over no name guys with either minimal fights (5 or less) or whose records have more loses than wins...

[mesmorph78]

That's not the definition of legitimate
the fighters tank fought were legitimate mma fighters as in a part of the federation
simple

[trustnoone]

That's not the definition of legitimate
the fighters tank fought were legitimate mma fighters as in a part of the federation
simple

Holyfuckingshit!!!!!!! You really are as dumb as you look!

[mesmorph78]

That's your opinion which is fine...
But I don't quite see what that has to do with the argument
 

[JP_RC]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

they are like a bunch of fucking 13 year old's.

remember when you were a KID and being "tough" was important???  and then 99.9999999999%  of us matured and grew out of that  

Best post of the thread.