Wavelengths methods - will it work for me kissing Cardio goodbye?

[affeman]

To look like a bodybuilder you need tons of steroids and/or great genetics. Look at Mesomorph78; he knows knows jack about nutrition, eats whatever he wants and looks cut and big.

What do you need according to you to look like a 'bodybuilder'?

Hard work and dedication.


 

[DK II]

Very few naturals look like a 'bodybuilder'. Wavelength is lean and athletic and strong. Many people would kill to look like him and he is really nothing like TA.

WL is EXACTLY like TA.

To look like a bodybuilder you need tons of steroids and/or great genetics. Look at Mesomorph78; he knows knows jack about nutrition, eats whatever he wants and looks cut and big.

What do you need according to you to look like a 'bodybuilder'?

Come on, stop that "genetics" bullshit again.

You need good genetics if you want to be a top bodybuilder, but to look decent with a good amount of muscle mass at low BF levels you only need hard training, consistency and a good diet consisting of lots of lean protein, veggies, carbs and the right fatty acids.
Any fuck up in the diet will have massive impact on you training results.

If you have ever managed to eat clean for a longer period, you will know what i mean.

I never called anyone an idiot.

I said arguments ad hominem are irrelevant. One could be the fattest guy around and still know more about nutrition than us. Plus, on the internet anyone can claim anything anyway. Who knows if my pictures are actually me? And who knows whether you tell the truth about your condition or not? So I'm not my only proof, I'm no proof at all. The only "proof" (if we want to call it that) lies in scientific studies.

Sure you are calling people idiots all the time, WL, don't play me for dumb. You ridicule everyone who does cardio and doesn't eat junk food.

[DK II]

Hard work and dedication.


 

Spot on. 

[Deicide]

Hard work and dedication.


 

Hard work and dedication is a given for almost any endeavour. Talent (i.e. genetics) sets people apart. I just see a lot of personal attacks here rather than addressing Wavelength's core argument(s). May I ask what you specifically find incorrect about what he says?

[Deicide]

WL is EXACTLY like TA.


Come on, stop that "genetics" bullshit again.

You need good genetics if you want to be a top bodybuilder, but to look decent with a good amount of muscle mass at low BF levels you only need hard training, consistency and a good diet consisting of lots of lean protein, veggies, carbs and the right fatty acids.
Any fuck up in the diet will have massive impact on you training results.

If you have ever managed to eat clean for a longer period, you will know what i mean.


Sure you are calling people idiots all the time, WL, don't play me for dumb. You ridicule everyone who does cardio and doesn't eat junk food.

Wavelength has never once used the word 'idiot' in all his time here. You are wrong about that. Whether there is something implicated in what he says is a matter of interpretation, not fact.

[DK II]

Wavelength has never once used the word 'idiot' in all his time here. You are wrong about that. Whether there is something implicated in what he says is a matter of interpretation, not fact.

Don't you play me for dumb as well, you don't need to use the word "idiot" to tell people they are.

This is exactly what he was doing all the time, playing the "I am so smart, you are so dumb" game.

[Deicide]

Don't you play me for dumb as well, you don't need to use the word "idiot" to tell people they are.

This is exactly what he was doing all the time, playing the "I am so smart, you are so dumb" game.

It's certainly possible but that is not the sense I have from him, but who knows. It's still all in the realm of interpretation and not fact.

[wavelength]

Sure you are calling people idiots all the time, WL, don't play me for dumb. You ridicule everyone who does cardio and doesn't eat junk food.

Come on now, I joke around, who doesn't here.

I don't ridicule anyone who does cardio, cardio has many benefits. I just don't think it's essential for optimal body composition. And I don't eat junk food, ever. There is no such thing.

[Deicide]

Come on now, I joke around, who doesn't here.

I don't ridicule anyone who does cardio, cardio has many benefits. I just don't think it's essential for optimal body composition. And I don't eat junk food, ever. There is no such thing.

Just curious though; would you say that there are some foods that are better for digestion, i.e. optimal dump taking?

[DK II]

Come on now, I joke around, who doesn't here.

I don't ridicule anyone who does cardio, cardio has many benefits. I just don't think it's essential for optimal body composition. And I don't eat junk food, ever. There is no such thing.

If you repeat a "joke" often enough over years, you will surely sound bitter and or arrogant.

It has stopped being funny a long time ago, WL, you can stop now.

Just curious though; would you say that there are some foods that are better for digestion, i.e. optimal dump taking?

anything fibrous. 

[Deicide]

If you repeat a "joke" often enough over years, you will surely sound bitter and or arrogant.

It has stopped being funny a long time ago, WL, you can stop now.

anything fibrous. 

I disagree. Some fibrous stuff gives you a cleaner exit, whilst others give you a more smeary exit. Personally I am looking for the food that will optimise my dumps, i.e. minimise the time spent on the can.

[DK II]

I disagree. Some fibrous stuff gives you a cleaner exit, whilst others give you a more smeary exit. Personally I am looking for the food that will optimise my dumps, i.e. minimise the time spent on the can.

[Deicide]

Lecker!

[wavelength]

If you repeat a "joke" often enough over years, you will surely sound bitter and or arrogant.
It has stopped being funny a long time ago, WL, you can stop now.

LOL, don't know if you have noticed but everything here is repetition.

[Deicide]

LOL, don't know if you have noticed but everything here is repetition.

Getbig is the home you never move away from, because it always stays the same.

[DK II]

LOL, don't know if you have noticed but everything here is repetition.

Sure it is, but a change of subject from time to time is not a bad idea.

You're starting to becoming the same annoying broken record like Croatch, TA or alex23.

[Disgusted]

Then he's a liar. In any case, doesn't matter. Most pro BBs have no clue about nutrition or training. They have great genetics and enough drugs in their system.

Spoke to his trainer a few times, Dexter did cardio. There may have been times when he didn't but when he came in looking his best Joe had him do cardio. I'm sure Sean can verify this.

[Fatpanda]

LOL, great argument.

[Fatpanda]

ahaah, are you telling me now that you are the top notch in nutrition and diet and it's impossible to know more than you??

I'm in this for more than ten years, i'm reading up and down everything i can get my hands on.

I don't have to prove anything to you, the fact that i'm not a sheet of paper like you or a fucking bigmac like FP says enough about the level of my knowledge.

I know i'm pissing you off, but i can't change the facts. I have seen pics of both of you and read what you wrote, and i say it again, you both don't look anywhere near a bodybuilder, and what you write is utter bullshit.


Oh and feel free to check anytime you like in Tokyo.

you make a lot of claims yet:

you never discuss nutrition - because you would be owned beyond belief.
you never discuss training - because you would be owned beyond belief.
you only ever posted 1 pic - that of a very fat calf 
all this yet you claim to look better 

sure thing.

[Fatpanda]

The most important thing for what? Losing weight - yes. Looking like a BB - no.

Follow that approach and see what it does for you. Have you started your cycle meanwhile?

what do you know about being a bodybuilder?

you said you have 16" arms 

i have the same size arms and i don't even work my arms directly, and haven't for over 2 years.

you should think more before you type.

[DK II]

you make a lot of claims yet:

you never discuss nutrition - because you would be owned beyond belief.
you never discuss training - because you would be owned beyond belief.
you only ever posted 1 pic - that of a very fat calf 
all this yet you claim to look better 

sure thing.

I don't need to prove anything to you.

I know way more than you, i am not fat, never have been. But you in your delusional, hurt little brain will never accept this.

[tallgerman]

Any onw who does not like Wavelengths methods please post thier alternate method.

[DK II]

Any onw who does not like Wavelengths methods please post thier alternate method.

A shotgun blast in your mouth will get you ripped in no time, gimmick.

[FREAKgeek]

Come on now, I joke around, who doesn't here.

I don't ridicule anyone who does cardio, cardio has many benefits. I just don't think it's essential for optimal body composition. And I don't eat junk food, ever. There is no such thing.

If I ate x calories of soda and chocolate vs x calories of chicken and rice 2 hours before hard exercising, I could tell you junk food exists

[kiwiol]

And I don't eat junk food, ever. There is no such thing.

If you make a nice burger at home, using fresh meat patties and vegetables (tomato, onion etc), it's nutritional value would be far superior to an equivalent burger you eat at McDonalds, where the meat is processed, loaded with preservatives and frozen for God knows how long, not to mention their using commercial grade condiments that won't be of the same quality as you'd use at home.

So if both meat patties were of a size that would give you 30 gm of protein, you won't get that much from the McDonald's burger. Which is why what you eat there is "junk".