Drop the bodybuilding diet?

[BIG ACH]

not sure if my opinion matters here anymore since you are under the impression that I am natural.

But I DO NOT clean all the time, not even close, but I do have a plan that I do my best to follow, if I diverge I diverge... its the off-season!  I have bodybuilding A.D.D. in that I'm constantly changing my mind about if I wanna cut or bulk in the off-season, but I think that on and off kinda works out well for me LOLL

For competition prep, thats a different issue, I stay on the diet and don't diverge period... sure I've caved and cheated at times... but it'll be like ONCE in 16 weeks!

[Firemuscle]

I don't doubt that you've been training for a long time and met tons of people at numerous gyms!

You just said you don't eat like eat like a bodybuilder because you're not one, but you are making a judgement on someone who's been eating like a bodybuilder for nearly 10 years, its been my life man! Eating, training, competing!

 I started lifting in 1994. I've been through ups and downs over the years but i've learned a LOT about bodybuilding in the past 15 or 16 years and i've hit some pretty good peaks.

 I ain't a newbie.

 I didn't say that I don't eat like a bodybuilder. That other guy said that. I said that I stopped eating like a bodybuilding 6 months ago.

[BIG ACH]

I started lifting in 1994. I've been through ups and downs over the years but i've learned a LOT about bodybuilding in the past 15 or 16 years and i've hit some pretty good peaks.

 I ain't a newbie.

 I didn't say that I don't eat like a bodybuilder. That other guy said that. I said that I stopped eating like a bodybuilding 6 months ago.

I never called you a newbie!

Look if you want to believe that about me, thats fine, its false, but you know what, its a compliment and I take it that I must be doing something right!!!  And I've said this before and I will say it again... I'm willing to put up money to back up my claim and take ANY drug test on any given day and I will pass it!

If you truly believe I'm on something, you honestly have a warped view on bodybuilding and its hard for me to believe that you've actually been around the block per say....  Believe what you want, i'm not gonna convince you otherwise, but you should probably have some higher expectations of what is possible naturally!

[dogbowl]

[devilsmile]

redstar, you're so shipshekki if I ever knew one....

anyway, I don't use protein supplements because they have 10000 other chemicals that definetely is not good for you... I allways felt like my system was "stuffy" after consuming alot of supplements... just protein snacks and fruits for me.

[devilsmile]

so he IS SHipShekki

Welcome back  , too bad you lost your alpha post account  ... so how did the "homeless wondering around the country" work for you?

[225for70]

Thanks man, much appreciated 

Fatso...

[BIG ACH]

Fatso...

Whats funny is that wasn't even my biggest...


THIS IS ME AT 260 

[225for70]

That kids name was Dreamer or some shit..Haha that is so funny...He gained 40 LBS of pure fat..That was an experiment in bulking gone wrong

[Firemuscle]

Thats such an insult to ShipSekki

 That picture is badass.

 Later on i'm gonna go pull off a hot load to that one.

 And since you've got it saved to your computer, i'm guessing you cracked one off to it too.

[Firemuscle]

so he IS SHipShekki

Welcome back  , too bad you lost your alpha post account  ... so how did the "homeless wondering around the country" work for you?

 Actually while I was away I was just working my 9-5 job. I did travel to Thailand and Burma though.

 I just felt like taking a break from getbig for a while.

[BIG ACH]

Actually while I was away I was just working my 9-5 job. I did travel to Thailand and Burma though.

 I just felt like taking a break from getbig for a while.

Man going to Thailand who walks through metal detector sideways is going to bangkok 

[wavelength]

But I DO NOT clean all the time

Ach, you seem to be an intelligent guy. Can you please tell me your definition of "clean food", how you think it affects body composition, and what your basis for this belief is.

[DK II]

Ach, you seem to be an intelligent guy. Can you please tell me your definition of "clean food", how you think it affects body composition, and what your basis for this belief is.

Why should he even bother, all he writes will be "irrelevant ad hominem"... 

[wavelength]

Why should he even bother, all he writes will be "irrelevant ad hominem"... 

not necessarily

[DK II]

not necessarily

Oh i forgot: "Irrelevant ad hominem" if they are not matching your opinion. 

[BIG ACH]

Ach, you seem to be an intelligent guy. Can you please tell me your definition of "clean food", how you think it affects body composition, and what your basis for this belief is.

Clean food = healthy bodybuilding foods, lean meats, whole grains, vegetables etc. No junk food.


Think about it a pizza has like 1,000 calories, its pretty easy to get to 1,000 calories eating that.....  But you'd have to fucking eat a whole lot of lean grilled chicken breasts to get to 1,000 calories lol - so its obviously better cause of calorie control....

Aside from controlling calories, junk food - you know McD's, BK, all that shit has a ton of proccessed shit and fillers, which are in no way beneficial to bodybuilding and muscle gain, eventually they will hinder it if you keep decreasing insulin sensitivity.....

I love me some pizza and BK though 

[Deicide]

Clean food = healthy bodybuilding foods, lean meats, whole grains, vegetables etc. No junk food.


Think about it a pizza has like 1,000 calories, its pretty easy to get to 1,000 calories eating that.....  But you'd have to fucking eat a whole lot of lean grilled chicken breasts to get to 1,000 calories lol - so its obviously better cause of calorie control....

Aside from controlling calories, junk food - you know McD's, BK, all that shit has a ton of proccessed shit and fillers, which are in no way beneficial to bodybuilding and muscle gain, eventually they will hinder it if you keep decreasing insulin sensitivity.....

I love me some pizza and BK though 

Wavelength admits that his diet is not optimal for optimal dump taking.

[Meso_z]

Big ach, during that offseason what did you ate daily for a typical day?

[BIG ACH]

Big ach, during that offseason what did you ate daily for a typical day?

If I'm actually not cheating:

Meal 1 (Already eaten):
4 whole eggs
1 pack of oatmeal (maple and brown sugar flavor)
3 scoops whey protein

Meal 2 (Already eaten):
2 foot long subs from Subway (Whole wheat bread, grilled chicken, nothing on except a little bit of ketchup)

Meal 3:
2 scoops whey protein
1 scoop Phenom Labs Hearculean Xtreme

Meal 4 (Post work out):
2 scoops whey protein
1 teaspoon creatine
1 bottle of Gatorade Perform (24 oz bottle - Its got dextrose ;-))

Meal 5:
1 chicken breast
1 packet of rice (I like that Uncle Ben's Ready Rice)
15 Almonds

Meal 6:
2 scoops night time protein

I also take 8 tabs of fish oil, glucosamine, and multi-vitamins!

Total comes out to around; Cals: 3700, protein: 370, Carbs: 370, fat: 80

[Deicide]

If I'm actually not cheating:

Meal 1 (Already eaten):
4 whole eggs
1 pack of oatmeal (maple and brown sugar flavor)
3 scoops whey protein

Meal 2 (Already eaten):
2 foot long subs from Subway (Whole wheat bread, grilled chicken, nothing on except a little bit of ketchup)

Meal 3:
2 scoops whey protein
1 scoop Phenom Labs Hearculean Xtreme

Meal 4 (Post work out):
2 scoops whey protein
1 teaspoon creatine
1 bottle of Gatorade Perform (24 oz bottle - Its got dextrose ;-))

Meal 5:
1 chicken breast
1 packet of rice (I like that Uncle Ben's Ready Rice)
15 Almonds

Meal 6:
2 scoops night time protein

I also take 8 tabs of fish oil, glucosamine, and multi-vitamins!

Total comes out to around; Cals: 3700, protein: 370, Carbs: 370, fat: 80

I bet you take quality dumps.

[BIG ACH]

I bet you take quality dumps.

Fuck yeah!!! LOL 

[devilsmile]

Man going to Thailand who walks through metal detector sideways is going to bangkok  

welcome back, I thought you were walking through the country homeless, atleast I remember you had that thing you wanted to try out going on last time we saw...

you got banned though from your original account  

[devilsmile]

secondly johnnynoname is salvatore... by the help of the muscle schmoes admins he changed his name to salvatore without losing postaccount/anything else.

[Meso_z]

If I'm actually not cheating:

Meal 1 (Already eaten):
4 whole eggs
1 pack of oatmeal (maple and brown sugar flavor)
3 scoops whey protein

Meal 2 (Already eaten):
2 foot long subs from Subway (Whole wheat bread, grilled chicken, nothing on except a little bit of ketchup)

Meal 3:
2 scoops whey protein
1 scoop Phenom Labs Hearculean Xtreme

Meal 4 (Post work out):
2 scoops whey protein
1 teaspoon creatine
1 bottle of Gatorade Perform (24 oz bottle - Its got dextrose ;-))

Meal 5:
1 chicken breast
1 packet of rice (I like that Uncle Ben's Ready Rice)
15 Almonds

Meal 6:
2 scoops night time protein

I also take 8 tabs of fish oil, glucosamine, and multi-vitamins!

Total comes out to around; Cals: 3700, protein: 370, Carbs: 370, fat: 80

if you cheat?