Author Topic: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines  (Read 12379 times)

Flexb

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2975
  • word
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2010, 10:21:20 PM »
this is such a fuckig embarrasment


i seriously wish someone woud usurp the NPC-IFBBs power and create a better bodybuilding-centric org

With AMI going bankrupt, there may not be an Olympia this year and bodybuilding may be seeing it's last days. ;D

Howard

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15401
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2010, 05:42:42 AM »
this is such a fuckig embarrasment


i seriously wish someone woud usurp the NPC-IFBBs power and create a better bodybuilding-centric org

I checked and the all seem to do this "model, figure or fitness whatever".
Why? It insures the promoter will cover their costs and make some profit via just the entry fee and people each contestant brings to watch. Bodybuilding does not have much of a fan base or media coverage in the last few years.
Now, the Arnold always sells out and the Olympia does well, but other shows would be hurting if they didn't add more entrants.

It made sense that the figure and especially bikini divisions would be packed with entrants and popular.
The avg female wants to look like that and most guys enjoy seeing them, etc.

* Now the big question is, will the avg guy who works out want to spend $$ to compete in a male fitness body pageant?????
I tend to to doubt it.

chris10000

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 344
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2010, 05:46:51 AM »
on the womens side the bikini winners get the same price money than the fbbs...
i would like to hear the reaction if theses gay-model-men will get the same price money than the ifbb pro bb. ;D

bigmike99

  • Getbig II
  • **
  • Posts: 53
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2010, 06:25:10 AM »
on the womens side the bikini winners get the same price money than the fbbs...
i would like to hear the reaction if theses gay-model-men will get the same price money than the ifbb pro bb. ;D
Awesome ---J Cutlers check gets split with the winner of the new buzzer division.

w8m8

  • Guest
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2010, 10:08:37 AM »
"This is not a bodybuilding contest so extreme muscularity should be marked down."

Huh?  So if you come to this show without enough muscle you lose, but if you come with too much muscle you also lose?  Can you give us an example of someone who would win this contest?  Is Bill Davey too muscled or not muscled enough?  

I too would like to "see" what they mean

BayGBM

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 19458
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2010, 06:12:49 PM »
I too would like to "see" what they mean

Anyone?   ???

Ex Coelis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8075
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2010, 06:33:18 PM »
Sagi Kalev will be the Ronnie Coleman of Men's Physique


Viking11

  • Competitors
  • Getbig IV
  • *****
  • Posts: 2002
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2010, 09:44:29 PM »
Board shorts , no shirt  and barefoot?- sounds pretty fucking gay to me..

timfogarty

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7107
  • @fogartyTim on twitter
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2010, 01:48:25 AM »
Sagi Kalev will be the Ronnie Coleman of Men's Physique

Sagi's about the size of the top amateurs prior to the introduction of insulin and growth hormone (not saying that's how he got there).   so basically Men's Physique is suppose to be bodybuilding 1989?  I doubt it.  I think Men's Physique 2010 is suppose to be closer to what's on the cover of the fitness magazines.

flexingtonsteele

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5653
  • The new age pussy Punisher!
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2010, 02:05:27 AM »
Bob put up photos of what womens physique was supposed to look like.

But he's yet to put up any photos of what the criteria of mens physique is supposed to be.

Does the npc/ifbb even know what they're looking for yet?

Howard

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15401
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2010, 07:45:21 AM »
Sagi's about the size of the top amateurs prior to the introduction of insulin and growth hormone (not saying that's how he got there).   so basically Men's Physique is suppose to be bodybuilding 1989?  I doubt it.  I think Men's Physique 2010 is suppose to be closer to what's on the cover of the fitness magazines.
Exactly the point, good post.
I think smaller guys should simply compete in the jr or novice classes in their wt class.
This is what state and local level NPC contests should be about, along with a handful of good guys in the open class.

The new male physique deal is nothing more than a male beauty contest. It isn't bodybuilding and they don't even judge or pose their legs.

MB

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2312
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2010, 07:59:05 AM »
They should have called it the male modeling division.  By calling it physique, you could have Dexter Jackson walk out in board shorts and have the best physique.  There's no such thing as not rewarding muscularity, it's a physique contest.

tweeter

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2180
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2011, 08:16:23 PM »
I went to a show a few weeks ago, and some of the guys in the men's physique division would have placed well in the open class for bodybuilding. You see a lot of variation in terms of musclarity, but the judges seem to go mostly for conditioning and proportion. I don't have a video from the show I went to, but here is one just to show you what it is like. It seems kind of gay at first but when you compare it to actual bodybuilding, its not that bad.


Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40953
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2011, 08:35:13 PM »
Men’s Physique Division

Beginning in 2011 a new division for men will be introduced – Men’s Physique. The following are the guidelines/rules.

Judging Criteria:

* Muscularity and Body Condition: Judges will be looking for fit contestants who display proper shape and symmetry combined with muscularity and overall condition. This is not a bodybuilding contest so extreme muscularity should be marked down.


* Stage Presence and Personality: Contestants will be asked to walk in board shorts (shorts must be just above the knee in length and can be one inch below the belly button, no spandex and no logos are permitted on the board shorts however a manufacturer’s logo such as Nike symbol or Billabong are acceptable. Competitors will enter the stage without a shirt and barefoot. No lewd acts are allowed. Example: The moon pose. Judges are looking for the contestant with the best stage presence and poise who can successfully convey his personality to the audience.

COMPETITION JUDGING

Presentation:

* Competitors will walk to the center of the stage alone and perform quarter (1/4) turns with optional pose of hand on hip or hand in pocket, face the judges as directed then proceed to the side of the stage.

Comparison Round:

* The competitors will be brought back out in a group and directed to do quarter turns

* Judges will have the opportunity to compare competitors against each other in quarter turns.

Promoters can choose to have one class or two. For contests with two classes:

* Up to including 5’8”

* Over 5’8”

National level contests do not permit competitors to crossover into Bodybuilding. All other competitions are permitted to have crossovers at the discretion of the promoter with district chairperson’s approval.

Who Qualifies for National Level Men’s Physique Competitions:

Competitors that place in the top five (5) in each class at national qualifying contests will have a one year qualification for national level events.

Note: For 2011 a place in the top five (5) of any Men’s Physique contest will qualify you for national level contests.

QUALIFYING FOR IFBB PROFESSIONAL STATUS:

* NPC JUNIOR USA CHAMPIONSHIPS – Top 2 placers in the overall comparison earn IFBB Pro Card
* NPC JUNIOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS – Top 4 placers in the overall comparison earn IFBB Pro Card
* TEAM UNIVERSE – Height class winners earn IFBB Pro Card
* NPC USA CHAMPIONSHIPS – Height class winners earn IFBB Pro Card
* IFBB NORTH AMERICAN CHAMPIONSHIPS – Top 2 placers in the overall comparison earn IFBB Pro Card
* NPC NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS – Height class winners earn IFBB Pro Card



This sounds like a total yawn.

20inch calves

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4630
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2011, 11:23:38 PM »
If bodybuilding is a sport than dog shows and horse auctions shoul be considered sports too.


actually they have put dog shows on sports networks before
irongearco.com

Vince B

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 12947
  • What you!
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2011, 11:39:11 PM »
Looks like the inmates are finally running the asylum. What a lame idea. Why not test for banned substances instead?

tweeter

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2180
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2011, 09:35:19 AM »
Looks like the inmates are finally running the asylum. What a lame idea. Why not test for banned substances instead?
Probably because they can get more competitors and make more money off entry fees by doing it this way.

HUGEPECS

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4061
  • School of Hard knocks Gym
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2011, 09:37:45 AM »
With AMI going bankrupt, there may not be an Olympia this year and bodybuilding may be seeing it's last days. ;D



are you saying that The Olympia is going into a Lockout like the NFL?.... ;)
Get Big, or Die Trying

Sam

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2943
  • I just shoot the bastards.....Thats my policy!
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2011, 09:52:14 AM »
I went to a show a few weeks ago, and some of the guys in the men's physique division would have placed well in the open class for bodybuilding. You see a lot of variation in terms of musclarity, but the judges seem to go mostly for conditioning and proportion. I don't have a video from the show I went to, but here is one just to show you what it is like. It seems kind of gay at first but when you compare it to actual bodybuilding, its not that bad.



A few observations; The guy with the most muscle won the show. They all looked a bit awkward and unsure to hit any poses.It looked really gayyyyyyyy

Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 59954
  • It’s All Bullshit
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2011, 10:02:43 AM »
Men’s Physique Division

Beginning in 2011 a new division for men will be introduced – Men’s Physique. The following are the guidelines/rules.

Judging Criteria:

* Muscularity and Body Condition: Judges will be looking for fit contestants who display proper shape and symmetry combined with muscularity and overall condition. This is not a bodybuilding contest so extreme muscularity should be marked down.

* Stage Presence and Personality: Contestants will be asked to walk in board shorts (shorts must be just above the knee in length and can be one inch below the belly button, no spandex and no logos are permitted on the board shorts however a manufacturer’s logo such as Nike symbol or Billabong are acceptable. Competitors will enter the stage without a shirt and barefoot. No lewd acts are allowed. Example: The moon pose. Judges are looking for the contestant with the best stage presence and poise who can successfully convey his personality to the audience.

COMPETITION JUDGING

Presentation:

* Competitors will walk to the center of the stage alone and perform quarter (1/4) turns with optional pose of hand on hip or hand in pocket, face the judges as directed then proceed to the side of the stage.

Comparison Round:

* The competitors will be brought back out in a group and directed to do quarter turns

* Judges will have the opportunity to compare competitors against each other in quarter turns.

Promoters can choose to have one class or two. For contests with two classes:

* Up to including 5’8”

* Over 5’8”

National level contests do not permit competitors to crossover into Bodybuilding. All other competitions are permitted to have crossovers at the discretion of the promoter with district chairperson’s approval.

Who Qualifies for National Level Men’s Physique Competitions:

Competitors that place in the top five (5) in each class at national qualifying contests will have a one year qualification for national level events.

Note: For 2011 a place in the top five (5) of any Men’s Physique contest will qualify you for national level contests.

QUALIFYING FOR IFBB PROFESSIONAL STATUS:

* NPC JUNIOR USA CHAMPIONSHIPS – Top 2 placers in the overall comparison earn IFBB Pro Card
* NPC JUNIOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS – Top 4 placers in the overall comparison earn IFBB Pro Card
* TEAM UNIVERSE – Height class winners earn IFBB Pro Card
* NPC USA CHAMPIONSHIPS – Height class winners earn IFBB Pro Card
* IFBB NORTH AMERICAN CHAMPIONSHIPS – Top 2 placers in the overall comparison earn IFBB Pro Card
* NPC NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS – Height class winners earn IFBB Pro Card



Okay...I'm done competing in bodybuilding, this ^^^ is it for me. Seriously this is just another revenue stream and makes bodybuilding even more gay. Sticking with powerlifting and strongman. This is bullshit!

stuntmovie

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8946
  • Getbig!
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2011, 11:27:38 AM »
There are two (2) sides to every story …. And here are three (3) of them.

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly  ……  as seen by numerous GetBiggers:

1. The Good:

This new Men’s Physique Division will open up a lot of financial opportunities for a lot of guys and many GetBiggers who criticize the likes of Jay and Ronnie and all those other beefed up, bald-headed guys you seem to despise so damn much.

The supplement companies will hire more public-appealing models who will be featured in their ads to enhance their sales.

It will help the promoters make a decent income for their efforts.

It will be of great financial benefit for the NPC.

2. The Bad:

It will add to the length of every NPC event and cause the competitors to “Hurry up and wait!’ which was a serious problem in an earlier day. (see below).

BUT … I don’t see this added length being a problem for the fans if the event is run on a reliable time schedule allowing fans to see that part of the contest that they are interested in and leaving shortly thereafter. (Actually the NPC does a good job achieving this at the yearly USA.)

4. The Ugly:

It seems that a lot of us GetBiggters who attend NPC contests complain  about overly bloated muscle heads competing on stage in skimpy posing trunks ….. and then we still complain when the contestants are not ‘overly bloated’ and competing on stage in knee length shorts and then make unfounded accusations about the cotestants.

Take that as the Ugly part!

And … some of you guys and gals might be able to recall just HOW and WHY the NPC came into existence.

No room here to tell you the somewhat complicated “HOW” but here’s the very simple (but not all inclusive)  “WHY”!

Back in the 60’s most bodybuilding events were held with lifting events. And those lifting events held priority and began at decent hours while the bodybuilding event (there was only one back then) was allowed to start only after the conclusion of the lifting event and only after all the lifting trophies had been presented.

This ensured that some people would be in the audience to witness the lifting awards.

So on many occasions the first bodybuilding competitor got on stage long after midnight and the BB trophies were passed around as the sun came up.

Those were the days of the AAU’s dominion over competitive bodybuilding and the very start of its demise within the bodybuilding world.

Somewhere here there’s a lesson to be learned.

Does history really repeat itself?

I personally hope NOT as I know the principals and under the circumstances …. They do a damn fine job.

Thanks for reading down this far, Stunt

timfogarty

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7107
  • @fogartyTim on twitter
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2011, 12:11:49 PM »
yeah, well something else about why AAU contests fell out of favor and the NPC became dominate.  The AAU Mr contests was to find the best representative of the ideal male.  Facial appearance, personality and interview skills were part of the judging.  So more often than not the most muscular guy did not win the overall.  Weider's amateur IFBB said that they will judge on muscularity only.  Fans liked that. Then Weider was able to win the right to promote some AAU events, some in the AAU revolted, and what was left became the NPC.  the AAU lasted another 20 years, trying to go the natural route near the end, before they washed their hands of bodybuilding.

Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40953
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2011, 12:33:23 PM »
With AMI going bankrupt, there may not be an Olympia this year and bodybuilding may be seeing it's last days. ;D

Don't you mean competitive professional bodybuilding? There will always be folks who seek to change their physical structure via weight training. Also folks are naturally competitive. I suspect there will also always be some level of bodybuilding competitions. Maybe it will not be the Mr. Olympia but there will be a Mr or Ms something or other.

Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40953
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2011, 12:38:52 PM »
Why is the American public so afraid of the male body. Women in a similar contest are wearing thongs!

Interesting, isn't it? I was under the impression than modern man in the last couple of decades had become just as objectified as are women. Women buy those calendars with shirtless fireman and such....I know this because my wife is one of those women. She's very considerate of my feelings though; she always tells me I look better than those dudes....yeah right! I wondered what's with the board shorts when I read the original post. Like someone said, maybe these fellas won't have quads worth showing off.

Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40953
Re: NPC Men's Physique - Rules & Guidelines
« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2011, 12:42:27 PM »
* Stage Presence and Personality: Contestants will be asked to walk in board shorts (shorts must be just above the knee in length and can be one inch below the belly button, no spandex and no logos are permitted on the board shorts however a manufacturer’s logo such as Nike symbol or Billabong are acceptable. Competitors will enter the stage without a shirt and barefoot. No lewd acts are allowed. Example: The moon pose. Judges are looking for the contestant with the best stage presence and poise who can successfully convey his personality to the audience.

Stage presence? poise???!!!!!  WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF??????? FUUUKKING GAAAAAAYYYYYYY 

Some folks think Kai Greene getting on stage wearing whatever and doing is elaborate posing routine with a mask on his face is fucking gay. You can't please everyone.