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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2010, 09:50:10 PM »

pretty simple really

I'd like to read the preceding statements or even better the entire article to find out what they are talking about.

For example these quotes below sound pretty provocative and I'd like to read the entire conversation

My guess is there totally benign and have something to do with whatever he was speculating on at the time or maybe musing about some of his phenomenal  trades.

Soros is a hedge fund guy and he does nothing that thousands of other people also try to do every day

he's just a lot better than most of them

Soros has said several times over the years that most of his life he's had Messianic fantasies about himself, he's said this in many instances very openly and you can read about them in many of his books and articles. For instance:

“I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of my self-importance—to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god or an economic reformer like Keynes (each with his General Theory) or, even better, a scientist like Einstein (reflexivity sounds like relativity).” (The Alchemy of Finance, George Soros)

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2010, 11:52:28 PM »
Soros manipulates euro - is U.S. dollar next?
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A scholar and New York Times bestselling author suspects left-wing billionaire George Soros is trying to manipulate the euro as part of his goal of establishing a one-world currency and a one-world government.

 

The London Daily Mail and The Wall Street Journal both recently reported on what is being described as an all-star "ideas dinner" in New York City that was attended by some heavyweight hedge-fund managers, including George Soros. During that dinner, several participants argued that the euro is likely to fall to "parity" or equal on an exchange basis with the dollar.

Dr. Jerome Corsi, author of America for Sale: Fighting the New World Order, Surviving a Global Depression, and Preserving U.S.A. Sovereignty, believes this is a George Soros-led effort all the way.

Jerome Corsi"Soros made his first billion in an effort to break the Bank of England when he similarly took short positions on futures and bet against the pound, which was hugely successful," Corsi explains. "That's when he made his first billion dollars. And now he is trying to do the same with the euro -- and the euro is vulnerable because the European Union has got debt problems."

The author adds that while bringing the euro closer to parity with the dollar is good for the dollar in the short term, this is not the best way to go about it.

"We should be bolstering the dollar...but not by taking down the euro," Corsi contends. "In some ways, I'm happy the euro could be taken down. I hope the nation states go back to their individual currencies. But that's not the outcome of this. The outcome is the globalists like Soros will ultimately say, 'Now let's go to a one-world currency and a one-world government."

The scholar concludes that the latter is what Soros has been working to accomplish. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama has done nothing or even said anything about protecting the dollar.

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2010, 12:10:26 AM »
How could anyone not trust this man? His is such a trustworthy face too. nothing evil here.  :D

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2010, 07:48:48 AM »


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Glenn Beck's Horrific Lie -- He Must Be Fired

As much as I disagree with the hosts on Fox News, I have never called for any of them to be fired. I defended Don Imus when he got in trouble with his incendiary comments. That's because I believe a talk show host should have wide berth, even to offend. They are the conversation starters and at the heart of our political discourse.

Of course, as a talk show host I'm very biased on this issue, but I think it helps the national conversation to hear everyone out. That's even if what they're saying is outrageous or not even remotely true. Let there be a battlefield of ideas and I think the truth will win out in the long run (though it loses many battles in the short run).

Now, that you know how strongly I feel about that - I think Glenn Beck should be fired. He has told a lie so grotesque that it goes beyond the pale of even dirty politics. Just when I thought he couldn't shock my conscience anymore, he has done it. Let me explain.

George Soros survived the Holocaust. He is Jewish and when the Nazis caught up with his family his father saved his life by bribing an agricultural official to pretend Soros was his Christian godson. At one point, that man took the fourteen year old Soros to survey and appraise the property that had been confiscated from another Jewish family. Obviously Soros did not have a choice in the matter. Soros eventually survived the Holocaust.

To most this would be an amazing and harrowing story of survival during the Holocaust. To Beck it was an opportunity to paint Soros as an anti-Semite and smear him with one of the worst lies I have ever heard.

First Beck started by horribly warping this story on his Fox News show. He said of Soros:

"[When he was] 14 years old, he had to help the government confiscate the land of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors."

That's not what happened at all as you can see from above. He didn't help confiscate people's land. He didn't actively participate in betraying his Jewish neighbors or friends. The implications are horrible. But what Beck did next is much worse. He twisted the story further until he came out with this inexcusable lie on his radio show:

"[H]ere's a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps."

That lie takes my breath away. That is a lie that cannot be told.

The ADL has now condemned Beck's statements as "horrific."

Michelle Goldberg has a terrific article in The Daily Beast explaining how Beck's two part series on Fox News Channel about George Soros was classic anti-Semitism. He even named the series "Puppet Master." Nazi propaganda used to call Jews the "wire pullers."

The Nazis would say in their propaganda pieces that Jews secretly controlled everything and brought down whatever governments they didn't like. Beck's two part series on Soros talked about how he was the secret force behind the progressive agenda and surreptitiously brought down governments he didn't like (Communist governments by the way, but apparently he doesn't get credit for that). And Beck concludes by saying that we might be next. Soros might destroy our country. This is anti-Semitism 101.

One man has already tried to assassinate people who worked for the Tides Foundation because Beck accused them of being tied to George Soros. That man was caught in a shoot-out with cops before he could kill the people who worked there. Beck undeterred by what he is spurring people to do, has put his foot on the gas pedeal to try to stoke the fires more.

Fox News has told and spread many lies, ranging from the absurd (President Obama is going to spend $200 million a day in his trip to India) to the politically devastating (they invited John Kerry's accusers on-air to smear his Vietnam service repeatedly during the 2004 election). I know that's what they do. But even I didn't know it went this far. If Beck doesn't get fired over this, what else can he say? I literally cannot think of anything more outrageous.

They call themselves a "News Channel." Is this the kind of "news" people want to participate in?

This is the kind of thing people should resign in protest over. This is the kind of thing that guests shouldn't go on the channel over. This is the kind of thing that people shouldn't want their names associated with.

If Fox doesn't fire Beck over this, well then you know exactly where they stand. It certainly isn't as a news channel.

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2010, 08:22:39 AM »

Glenn Beck's Anti-Semitic Attacks
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Michelle Goldberg is a journalist and author based in New York. Her first book, the New York Times bestseller "Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism” delved into some of the reddest precincts of the United States to expose the ascendant politico-religious fundamentalism dominating the Republican Party. It was a finalist for the 2007 New York Public Library Helen Bernstein Award for Excellence in Journalism. Goldberg's second book, “The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the Future of the World,” explored the international battle over reproductive rights, and argued that the liberation of women is key to solving the planet's most urgent problems. It won 2008's J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize. Goldberg has reported from countries including Uganda, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, India and Argentina, and her work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The Nation, New York, The Guardian (UK) and The New Republic among many other publications. Her third book, about the world-traveling adventuress, actress and yoga evangelist Indra Devi, will be published by Knopf in 2012.
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The Fox host’s stunning two-day tirade against George Soros is a new low on American television. Michelle Goldberg on the roots of his hatred—and the Anti-Defamation League’s response.

Anti-Semitism, like all ideologies, tells a story about the world. It’s a story about almost occult Jewish power, about cabals that manipulate world events for their own gain. In classic anti-Semitic narratives, Jews control both the elites and the masses; they’re responsible for the communist revolution and the speculative excesses of capitalism. Their goal is to undermine society so that they can take over. Through the lens of anti-Semitism, social division, runaway inflation, and moral breakdown all make sense because they all have the same cause. Nazi propaganda called Jews drahtzieher—wire-pullers. They constitute a power above and beyond ordinary government authority. “There is a super-government which is allied to no government, which is free from them all, and yet which has its hand in them all,” Henry Ford wrote in The International Jew.

 Glenn Beck and George Soros. (AP Photos) If you know this history, you’ll understand why Glenn Beck’s two-part “exposé” on George Soros, whom Beck calls “The Puppet Master,” was so shocking, even by Beck’s degraded standards. The program, which aired Tuesday and Wednesday, was a symphony of anti-Semitic dog-whistles. Nothing like it has ever been on American television before.

“There is a crisis collapsing our economy—George Soros,” Beck said on Tuesday’s show. “When the administration and progressives look for a savior to step in and save the day—George Soros… He’s pulled no punches about the end game. It’s one world government, the end of America's status as the prevailing world power—but why?” Because, Beck suggests, Soros wants to rule us all like a God: “Soros has admitted in the past he doesn't believe in God, but that's perhaps because he thinks he is.”



Soros, a billionaire financier and patron of liberal causes, has long been an object of hatred on the right. But Beck went beyond demonizing him; he cast him as the protagonist in an updated Protocols of the Elders of Zion. He described Soros as the most powerful man on earth, the creator of a “shadow government” that manipulates regimes and currencies for its own enrichment. Obama is his “puppet,” Beck says. Soros has even “infiltrated the churches.” He foments social unrest and economic distress so he can bring down governments, all for his own financial gain. “Four times before,” Beck warned. “We’ll be number five.”

Beck went beyond demonizing Soros; he cast him as the protagonist in an updated Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

It’s true, of course, that Soros has had a hand in bringing down governments—communist, authoritarian governments. Beck seems to be assuming a colossal level of ignorance on the part of his viewers when he informs them, “Along with currencies, Soros also collapses regimes. With his Open Society Fund… Soros has helped fund the Velvet Revolution in the Czech Republic, the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine, the Rose Revolution in Georgia. He also helped to engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, and Yugoslavia. So what is his target now? Us. America.”

Beck’s implication is that there was something sinister in Soros’ support for anti-communist civil society organizations in the former Soviet Union. Further, he sees such support as evidence that Soros will engineer a communist coup here in the United States. This kind of thinking only makes sense within the conspiratorial mind-set of classic anti-Semitism, in which Jews threaten all governments equally. And as a wealthy Jew with a distinct Eastern European accent, Soros is a perfect target for such theories.

To inoculate himself against charges of anti-Semitism, Beck hurled them at Soros, pointing out that he’s an atheist and a critic of Israel. He accused Soros of helping Nazis steal Jewish property as a teenager and of feeling no remorse about it. In fact, when Soros was 14 in Nazi-occupied Hungary, his father bribed an agriculture official to pretend that the boy was his Christian godson. Soros once had to accompany his protector to inventory a confiscated Jewish estate. Asked by 60 Minutes if he felt guilty about it, he said no, because he wasn’t at fault. The slander that he was a Nazi collaborator has proliferated on the right ever since.

It’s entirely possible that Beck has waded into anti-Semitic waters inadvertently, that he picked up toxic ideas from his right-wing demimonde without realizing their anti-Jewish provenance. Early on Wednesday’s show, Beck cited the “Prime Minister of Malaysia” on Soros’ villainy. As Media Matters pointed out, he was almost certainly talking about former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad. Maybe he doesn’t know that Mohamad also said, “We do not want to say that this is a plot by the Jews, but in reality it is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge, and coincidentally Soros is a Jew.”

“There’s a difference between first-degree murder and vehicular homicide, which is intentionality,” says J.J. Goldberg, a columnist and former editor in chief of The Forward, America’s leading Jewish newspaper. Goldberg wasn’t convinced that Beck meant to attack Jews. Nevertheless, he described the show as “as close as I’ve heard on mainstream television to fascism.”

On Thursday morning, the Anti-Defamation League, which exists to combat anti-Semitism, finally condemned Beck. Earlier, I’d criticized the group for its silence, a change that Todd Gutnick, the ADL’s director of media relations, fiercely disputed. “Sometimes the ADL likes to consider what it’s going to say before it says it,” he said. “In this case we wanted to see the totality of what he was doing on the air before speaking out.”

In a statement, Abraham Foxman, the ADL’s national director and a Holocaust survivor himself, expressed outrage over Beck’s charges about Soros’ behavior as a boy in Nazi-occupied Hungary, which Beck made on television on Tuesday and again on the radio Wednesday. “Glenn Beck’s description of George Soros’ actions during the Holocaust is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top,” said Foxman. “For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say—inaccurately—that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific… To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant.”

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2010, 09:40:26 AM »
What's so amazing is these people are complaining about Beck taking Soros's own words, direct quotes from his books and interviews and they're calling Beck the liar...laughable!

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2010, 09:42:08 AM »
What's so amazing is these people are complaining about Beck taking Soros's own words, direct quotes from his books and interviews and they're calling Beck the liar...laughable!

Soros does not even feel and remorse or guilt for anything he has done ! ! !   

Shit - I still feel horrible about hitting my little sis with a piece of wood whe I was a kid. 

 

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2010, 09:49:24 AM »
George Soros survived the Holocaust. He is Jewish and when the Nazis caught up with his family his father saved his life by bribing an agricultural official to pretend Soros was his Christian godson. At one point, that man took the fourteen year old Soros to survey and appraise the property that had been confiscated from another Jewish family. Obviously Soros did not have a choice in the matter. Soros eventually survived the Holocaust.

To most this would be an amazing and harrowing story of survival during the Holocaust. To Beck it was an opportunity to paint Soros as an anti-Semite and smear him with one of the worst lies I have ever heard.

First Beck started by horribly warping this story on his Fox News show. He said of Soros:

"[When he was] 14 years old, he had to help the government confiscate the land of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors."


 :D :D :D :D :D not quite the same

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2010, 09:56:08 AM »
The Soros special Beck did was 3 days long and every quote and fact in regards to Soros is documented on Beck's website as well as much of it on theblaze.com.

There are footnotes provided for every single quote and fact.

This wasn't some arbitrary show they put together, they obviously spent an enormous amount of time putting this together.

I like how these people who are attacking Beck's Soros special do not use one cited fact, they just scream "Beck is wrong" and provide no evidence of proof that he is.

Soros's own words are far more telling than anything...if peoples own words and actions aren't truth, then what is?

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2010, 10:03:08 AM »
George Soros survived the Holocaust. He is Jewish and when the Nazis caught up with his family his father saved his life by bribing an agricultural official to pretend Soros was his Christian godson. At one point, that man took the fourteen year old Soros to survey and appraise the property that had been confiscated from another Jewish family. Obviously Soros did not have a choice in the matter. Soros eventually survived the Holocaust.

To most this would be an amazing and harrowing story of survival during the Holocaust. To Beck it was an opportunity to paint Soros as an anti-Semite and smear him with one of the worst lies I have ever heard.

First Beck started by horribly warping this story on his Fox News show. He said of Soros:

"[When he was] 14 years old, he had to help the government confiscate the land of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors."


 :D :D :D :D :D not quite the same




you don't see the way he said it was to insight the simpletons [beck watchers]

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2010, 10:04:22 AM »



you don't see the way he said it was to insight the simpletons [beck watchers]
ha ha ha


Dont you half a thread you have been a called a coward in to respond to? 

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2010, 10:11:44 AM »
It's also amusing how Beck has invited Soros on his show numerous times, offered him the entire hour to come on and speak his mind. He has refused.

Why? Why not go on Beck's show and show the world he's a liar? If it's true, if Beck is lying and fabricating stories out of thin air, this would be your opportunity to shut him up and completely ruin him...why then won't he appear on the show? No sane person who is telling the truth will avoid an opportunity to shed truth on to lies when given the chance, not unless the supposed lies are indeed true.


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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2010, 10:45:42 PM »
Soros does not even feel and remorse or guilt for anything he has done ! ! !   

Shit - I still feel horrible about hitting my little sis with a piece of wood whe I was a kid. 


 :o  You have a little sister?!  Oh my goodness, the poor thing. lol.
I'm sitting here just imagining what kind of hell you must have put her through when you were growing up.

I could totally see you giving her grief 24/7. lol.  ;D
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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2010, 10:50:39 PM »
It's also amusing how Beck has invited Soros on his show numerous times, offered him the entire hour to come on and speak his mind. He has refused.

Why? Why not go on Beck's show and show the world he's a liar? If it's true, if Beck is lying and fabricating stories out of thin air, this would be your opportunity to shut him up and completely ruin him...why then won't he appear on the show? No sane person who is telling the truth will avoid an opportunity to shed truth on to lies when given the chance, not unless the supposed lies are indeed true.


I would highly doubt he would ever want to grace the studios of FOX after this.
A ratings boost would hardly be something he's be inclined to give. He may choose to ignore it, he may not,
...but I doubt he'd be inclined to give Beck or any FOX personality the interview.

Did you notice I said FOX personality as opposed to Fox journalist?
I wonder how long before Greta VanSusteren starts shopping her resumé elsewhere?  :-\
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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2010, 02:04:40 AM »
What's so amazing is these people are complaining about Beck taking Soros's own words, direct quotes from his books and interviews and they're calling Beck the liar...laughable!

don't get me wrong, i actually watched this and think beck is dead on.

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2010, 08:34:35 AM »
I would highly doubt he would ever want to grace the studios of FOX after this.
A ratings boost would hardly be something he's be inclined to give. He may choose to ignore it, he may not,
...but I doubt he'd be inclined to give Beck or any FOX personality the interview.

Did you notice I said FOX personality as opposed to Fox journalist?
I wonder how long before Greta VanSusteren starts shopping her resumé elsewhere?  :-\

VanSusteren isn't going anywhere, why would she want to leave the network people actually watch?
I also don't understand the problem so many people have with Fox when it comes to differentiating between hard news and opinion....guys like Beck are opinion shows, they don't pretend to be anything but. Guys like Sheppard Smith are hard news shows. Why is this difficult to understand?

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2010, 08:37:28 AM »
don't get me wrong, i actually watched this and think beck is dead on.



He's 100% dead on. Soros has been a problem for yrs, he's been a thorn in the worlds side for yrs. He in my opinion, of every nasty and bad thing in the world, he may indeed be the worst, and that's saying something.


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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2010, 12:15:16 PM »
He's 100% dead on. Soros has been a problem for yrs, he's been a thorn in the worlds side for yrs. He in my opinion, of every nasty and bad thing in the world, he may indeed be the worst, and that's saying something.


Does that give a broadcaster license to twist facts?
If he's such a horrible person, ...there should be no need to embellish. Stating the facts should be enough.
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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2010, 12:21:47 PM »
He's 100% dead on. Soros has been a problem for yrs, he's been a thorn in the worlds side for yrs. He in my opinion, of every nasty and bad thing in the world, he may indeed be the worst, and that's saying something.



Look at this David Rockerfeller quote, he's the same type.

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

These are the kind of guys that are running the show, not Bush and Obama.
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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2010, 12:29:42 PM »
Look at this David Rockerfeller quote, he's the same type.

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

These are the kind of guys that are running the show, not Bush and Obama.

I have read that quote before - chilling. 

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2010, 12:32:33 PM »
Does that give a broadcaster license to twist facts?
If he's such a horrible person, ...there should be no need to embellish. Stating the facts should be enough.

How do you feel he (Beck) embellished when talking about Soros?

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2010, 12:53:07 PM »
was awesome

shows soros as racist multination jew who targets currency scams

what do you think fed does?  it photcopies billion dollar bill they did nothign to produce anything to back the money the gives to friends

if you did it in jail for countrfeiting

obama let em do 3Trillion sofar


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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2010, 02:22:32 PM »

Beck's Dangerous Campaign
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Glenn Beck’s anti-George Soros tirade sounds very familiar to me. The Hungarian far right has been leveling those same charges for years, darkly hinting at the financier’s “omnipotence,” his ties to a global conspiracy, and his penchant for bringing down governments (soon our own!). In Hungary, everyone knows these are code words for anti-Semitism. To hear them repeated on our own airwaves in prime time is something else.

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The trouble with George Soros is that, quite frankly, he doesn’t give a damn. Whether the slime is thrown from his former country or from Fox News, he rarely rises to the haters’ bait. Soros has experienced poison from demagogues more skilled (and more heavily armed) than Beck. In a life that has encompassed the most violent hatemongering of the 20th century—from fascism to communism—he flicks off this latest spray and keeps going.

I, however, find it impossible not to speak up when I hear the likes of Beck from the comfort of his armchair charge Soros with anti-Semitism. Beck paints Soros as a Nazi tool for having had the supreme nerve to survive Europe’s most violent Holocaust: the one that swept through Hungary under SS-Obersturmbannführer Adolf Eichmann during the summer and fall of 1944. Eichmann’s was a well-oiled machine by then, and he had to make quick work of Europe’s last remaining intact Jewish community. Even the most deluded Nazis knew the war was over, their cause lost. But Eichmann was determined to finish the job in Hungary. Only the most resourceful and the luckiest survived.

It is well known that the 14-year-old George Soros acted as a messenger of the Budapest Jewish Council, a group of aged and terrified elders who thought if they kept the city’s Jews calm, and followed the Gestapo’s every command, they might survive. Sent to alert Jews to report to various collection points around the city, the young Soros, prompted by his canny father, urged defiance instead. “There was one man I shall not forget,” Soros recalled, “I told him what my father had said. And he answered, ‘Tell your father that I am a law-abiding citizen, that I have always been a law-abiding citizen and that I am not going to start breaking the law now.'" We know how few of those law-abiding citizens survived Eichmann’s barbaric campaign to make Hungary Judenrein. The fact is that only by assuming false identities, through bribery and deception, could people survive that Kafkaesque nightmare. Andy Grove, the legendary founder of Intel, another young Budapest Jew, survived thus, as did my own parents. Raoul Wallenberg, the great Swedish humanitarian, performed his miracles in Budapest partly by forging passports and bribing Nazis.

But there is a danger that goes beyond George Soros in Beck’s demagoguery. Beck’s breathtaking ignorance of recent history might be laughable if it were not for one thing.

Soros played a vastly more historically significant role in ending communism, the nightmare that succeeded the Nazis. Beck depicts Soros as “the most powerful man on earth,” a man who can bring down governments. And Beck is absolutely right on that point. Does he have a clue as to which governments Soros has helped to bring down? I recall in the 1980s my Hungarian dissident friends telling me about this man Soros who was pumping oxygen into a suffocating system. It was in Budapest that he opened his first Open Society office in 1984. At a time when every typewriter had to be registered with the police, Soros smuggled in Xerox machines that soon made a mockery of the state’s tight control of information. Open Societies soon sprung up all over the Soviet empire. Toasting Soros’ 80th birthday last summer, Lord Mark Malloch Brown said four people brought down communism: Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II, and George Soros.

Perhaps Soros is immune to vilification. He seems to take a perverse pride in being the eternal outsider who “belongs to no club or associations.” But there is a danger that goes beyond George Soros in Beck’s demagoguery. Beck’s breathtaking ignorance of recent history might be laughable if it were not for one thing. He commands a huge audience of people who must surely trust him to know what he is talking about.

My Hungarian grandparents did not survive the Nazis, and my parents were jailed by the dommunists. I can still hear my father saying, “It always starts with words. Words matter.”

Kati Marton is an author and journalist who has reported for ABC News, National Public Radio as well as a number of print outlets. She received several honors for her reporting, including the George Foster Peabody Award. Her latest book is The Great Escape: Nine Jews Who Fled Hitler and Changed the World.

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Re: Beck on Soros
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2010, 02:26:39 PM »
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So when obama called the wall street bankers "fat cats" was that anti semtic?

Also Blackass - do you even realize that soros almost single handidly collapsed the currency of a few nations on purpose?

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« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2010, 02:29:40 PM »
sorry mr. beckbot just posting other views ;D