Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

Jintropin are 10iu vials

Hygetropin are the ones who are 8iu

Oh yea forgot 

[dustin]

I eagerly anticipate the day when I can afford to abuse the fuck out of gh

[Stavios]

I eagerly anticipate the day when I can afford to abuse the fuck out of gh

I could maybe afford 10IU a day if I squeeze my budget a bit.

[el numero uno]

I eagerly anticipate the day when I can afford to abuse the fuck out of gh

Epic life goals

[Fatpanda]

stavios the first time you tried gh, how much did you take ? what else were you taking with it? did you notice any differences at all both in feeling and size /strength gains/bodyfatness

[Stavios]

stavios the first time you tried gh, how much did you take ? what else were you taking with it? did you notice any differences at all both in feeling and size /strength gains/bodyfatness

I never did more than 5iu.
I tried it with some test, and last year I tried it also but with a primo-anavar cycle.

the hgh seemed to help me stay full while dieting, and accelerated the fat loss, but as far as muscle mass goes it didn't seem to do much at this dose

[Fatpanda]

I never did more than 5iu.
I tried it with some test, and last year I tried it also but with a primo-anavar cycle.

the hgh seemed to help me stay full while dieting, and accelerated the fat loss, but as far as muscle mass goes it didn't seem to do much at this dose

were you disappointed then ?

[Stavios]

were you disappointed then ?

for the price yeah, because it was expensive on the street

but now I can run 10iu for about 500$ so I'll try it for 2 months and then I'll lower it to 5iu per day until the show.

[slaveboy1980]

Epic life goals

 

[dj181]

Hey Stavios, you look like crap at 10% at 220? I find it hard to believe, coz if you're sitting at 220 at that percentage then you should have enough muscle on your frame to "displace" the fat somehow, if you get what I'm saying?

[Stavios]

Hey Stavios, you look like crap at 10% at 220? I find it hard to believe, coz if you're sitting at 220 at that percentage then you should have enough muscle on your frame to "displace" the fat somehow, if you get what I'm saying?

no I look good, but on pictures I would look like crap

I am not "fat", not at all actually.
I just don't have separation between the muscle groupe and I have a big frame so on picture is sucks.

I look better onstage when there are people standing next to me

[g101]

pictures = illusions....

example girls i know look fucking amazing on facebook then irl im like "ok..... nothing special.."  

[dj181]

How tall are you, and how big around are your wrists? Yeah, I know that the second part of that question is a bit strange, but it can maybe give some kind of idea as to your frame size.

[Stavios]

How tall are you, and how big around are your wrists? Yeah, I know that the second part of that question is a bit strange, but it can maybe give some kind of idea as to your frame size.

I am 5'10 and a half, don't know the size of my wrists but they are not that big.

I just have long long arms and legs and wide clavicules.

here is a pic of me from my last show 2 years ago I am on the far left.

even onstage I don't have much separation, I will need to be much harder next time around

[dj181]

Looking good man! And just because you have long arms and long legs with a wide clavical don't mean that you are large framed. What helps with the appearance of full and seperated muscles are small joints. I'm just your normal everyday twink standing at 5'11" and when I'm very lean sub-7, I don't weigh an ounce more than a buck 60, but as God says, the best I can hope for is about 175 at sub-7 considering my natural status My wrists measure 6 and a half inches, but my skinny twink ass ain't gots no round and full super-hero muscles

[tbombz]

I am 5'10 and a half, don't know the size of my wrists but they are not that big.

I just have long long arms and legs and wide clavicules.

here is a pic of me from my last show 2 years ago I am on the far left.

even onstage I don't have much separation, I will need to be much harder next time around

you look awesome man, your owning those dudes in total size.. in real life theyre are smaller than you for sure.  just have smaller joints/bones so they have an iullsuion of more muscle up ther eon stage.

[Stavios]

you look awesome man, your owning those dudes in total size.. in real life theyre are smaller than you for sure.  just have smaller joints/bones so they have an iullsuion of more muscle up ther eon stage.

thanks bro !

hopefully when I am 30 years old I will look thick enough !

[Genius]

1000-1500mg test/ew
1000mg EQ/ew
plus (proviron..tren..bla bla)

...should take care of the illusion being "tall" 

Took care of my "problems"..

[g101]

im starting to believe more test = no good......

i started reading blogs from european amateur bbers (which look 10x better than our guys here in North America) and these guys basically use low amount of test (like 500mg) and use A SHIT LOADDDD of anablics like tren,mast,primo,var,GH, fat burners etc etc

ive ran a deca + tren cycle for 12 weeks and honestly i havent had a better cycle than that and never ran into any "libido" problems or any bullshit like that, felt amazing

oh but wait its "not good" to run deca + tren.. thats liek suicide   <-- comments like that are retards and havent tried this combo personally and just copy whats on diff boards

JUST MY OPINION GUYS DONT FORGET THAT.

[Meso_z]

test is the base, no test and you look like a girl.

[Schmoe Buster]

im starting to believe more test = no good......

i started reading blogs from european amateur bbers (which look 10x better than our guys here in North America) and these guys basically use low amount of test (like 500mg) and use A SHIT LOADDDD of anablics like tren,mast,primo,var,GH, fat burners etc etc

ive ran a deca + tren cycle for 12 weeks and honestly i havent had a better cycle than that and never ran into any "libido" problems or any bullshit like that, felt amazing

oh but wait its "not good" to run deca + tren.. thats liek suicide   <-- comments like that are retards and havent tried this combo personally and just copy whats on diff boards

JUST MY OPINION GUYS DONT FORGET THAT.

I agree with you,I used to um 750mg-1000mg Test as my base then maybe 2cc of EQ or something and some tabs thrown in, now im just taking 250mg Test per week and 900mg of EQ and 250mg Deca per week and have a far different results as in looking pumped and lean and hard compared to just looking pumped on my old cycles, i havent blown up in weight fast like i did on high dose of test but i feel that was a lot of water retention! im thinking to double the Deca dose to 500mg as this is my best cycle so far

[Stavios]

I'll copy/past some posts

"I think most guys forget that Igf is the byproduct of GH that creates the "anabolic (building) effect".
Since Igf is best 1 mo on/ 1 mo off I use it to build with mega-doses of GH.
On my Igf "on" months I kick my GH to 20 iu. BUILDING MASS
On Igf "off" months GH drops to about 10 iu ED. Maintain gains, continue burning fat.

Natural levels of hGH and IGF1 decline rapidly sometime after 15-20 years old.
Pair this with we usually get on GH cycles at 25-30.
For these 2 reasons I won't run GH without Igf ever again.
UNLESS it was for pure fat loss, sleep , memory , qol , etc.

If it is mass you seek, you get MUCH more bang for your GH buck adding Igf-1.

Life"
not too sure about that, IMO the mega doses of hgh are what cause the growth

[g101]

I agree with you,I used to um 750mg-1000mg Test as my base then maybe 2cc of EQ or something and some tabs thrown in, now im just taking 250mg Test per week and 900mg of EQ and 250mg Deca per week and have a far different results as in looking pumped and lean and hard compared to just looking pumped on my old cycles, i havent blown up in weight fast like i did on high dose of test but i feel that was a lot of water retention! im thinking to double the Deca dose to 500mg as this is my best cycle so far

very nice!

i think i will run LOW test (250mg/week) with proviron  and then all the other anabolics

[Master Blaster]

Ronnie was using 36 iu's gh

There was a time I would have called bullshit on that. Now the truth is slowly sinking in. 

[Fatpanda]

honestly i shit myself at the thought of touching igf-1, insulin, pgf, etc etc

the late 80's - early 90's was the peak in bodybuilding everything thats become commonplace since i.e. the stuff i mentioned has turned bodybuilders into bloated pigs with no detail, or a bad case of palumboism.

never before these items was there these monstrosities !

i'd give my right nut to look like zane, arnold, mentzer etc let alone nasser, ray, levrone, priest, and the60-70's guys were only on what ?  dbol, deca, primo, and anavar ? they never even used test.

fair enough the 80-90s crowd added test and grew some more, then gh and grew some more + got more shredded ( if it was the gh and not just more gear)

no one on this site looks as good as guys from the 70's let alone the 90's guys - so whats the point in fucking with potentially mutant producing drugs