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Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« on: December 07, 2010, 06:24:18 PM »
I use them at a certain weight, figure I'd rather have my legs and back give out than my wrists.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 06:25:12 PM »
Same here.......I use Joe Meekos Power-Grips.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2010, 06:26:28 PM »
no condoms

no straps


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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 06:31:07 PM »
I use wrist wraps to open a bottle of ketchup.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 06:34:09 PM »
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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 06:35:03 PM »
You'd rather hurt you legs and back than lose your grip and drop the weight?


hahhahahaaa idiot. ;D
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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 06:37:23 PM »
When I read "dinosaur training" (sounds lame, but it's a great book) the author emphasised no strap no belt workouts. Had some really brutal sessions. Used to see how many 315 deadlifts I could do "naked". Really works the body. Feels good to be free of all that gear.

Now I'm back to straps.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 06:38:27 PM »
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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 06:41:47 PM »
I hate the State.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2010, 06:51:26 PM »

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2010, 06:52:44 PM »
no condoms

no straps


thats how I roll btch


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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 09:53:58 PM »
Straps, your grip WILL eventually become the limiting factor.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 10:10:08 PM »
Deadlifts are dangerous and intelligent bodybuilders should never do them. You can tear muscles with this movement. Remember what Arthur Jones said, build muscle, don't demonstrate strength.

Of course beliefs are difficult to change so on one will pay heed to my advice. When you are young you feel almost invincible so scoff at warnings re injuries, etc. Too many people have torn muscles using weights that are too heavy. The deadlift does almost nothing for a physique. Train on machines and be safe.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2010, 10:15:03 PM »
You'd rather hurt you legs and back than lose your grip and drop the weight?


hahhahahaaa idiot. ;D

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2010, 10:17:06 PM »
Deadlifts are dangerous and intelligent bodybuilders should never do them. You can tear muscles with this movement. Remember what Arthur Jones said, build muscle, don't demonstrate strength.

Of course beliefs are difficult to change so on one will pay heed to my advice. When you are young you feel almost invincible so scoff at warnings re injuries, etc. Too many people have torn muscles using weights that are too heavy. The deadlift does almost nothing for a physique. Train on machines and be safe.


DL's are dangerous if you don't know how to train, I agree that bodybuilders should not do them, training on machines makes you better on that machine and leads you to being a functional mess and leads to MORE injuries.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2010, 10:20:19 PM »
dls are a good full body movement...you dont have to do them with 600 pounds to enjoy the benefits...

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2010, 10:22:54 PM »
I used straps on last set or 2 of deads or rows until i injured a bicep when a strap snapped.  Haven't used them since, and my back and arms have never looked better.  The ol intervertebral discs are thankin' me too.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2010, 10:23:01 PM »
Deadlifts are dangerous and intelligent bodybuilders should never do them. You can tear muscles with this movement. Remember what Arthur Jones said, build muscle, don't demonstrate strength.

Of course beliefs are difficult to change so on one will pay heed to my advice. When you are young you feel almost invincible so scoff at warnings re injuries, etc. Too many people have torn muscles using weights that are too heavy. The deadlift does almost nothing for a physique. Train on machines and be safe.


i have to oddly enough agree with vince on this one


heavy deadlifts are asking for trouble


i do very focused 3/4 deads on the smith machine...........that bottom part of the movement that  this excercise excludes is really where you get hurt...........when your feet are being driven into the floor and jackign your back trying to get it off the ground...........that part of the movement is all ass and legs anyway........i do legs on legday...........the top part of the deadlift is they part that works the thickness of your back, and that what 3/4s on teh smith machine with a focus on the squeeze at the top do

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2010, 10:38:52 PM »
i do very focused 3/4 deads on the smith machine...........that bottom part of the movement that  this excercise excludes is really where you get hurt...........when your feet are being driven into the floor and jackign your back trying to get it off the ground...........that part of the movement is all ass and legs anyway........i do legs on legday...........the top part of the deadlift is they part that works the thickness of your back, and that what 3/4s on teh smith machine with a focus on the squeeze at the top do

You can do rack pulls for this effect too.

I hurt my back a lot doing deadlifts and switched to rack pulls but now I'm trying to get back into full deadlifts.  I feel like they are more effective, especially for my erectors.  Using the trap bar is also a good solution.  It's easier than a regular deadlift, especially if you use the high handles.

I think a lot of people just don't know how to do deadlifts correctly.  You have to keep a neutral spine, or at least very close to it.  Moving through a deadlift motion with a neutral spine is tricky for some, natural for others.  I'm STILL learning how to do it properly.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2010, 10:43:38 PM »
You can do rack pulls for this effect too!

I hurt my back a lot doing deadlifts and switch to rack pulls but now I'm trying to get back into full deadlifts.  I feel like they are more effective for some reason.  Using the trap bar is also a good solution.  It's easier than a regular deadlift, especially if you use the high handles.

I think a lot of people just don't know how to do deadlifts correctly.  You have to keep a neutral spine, or at least very close to it.  Moving through a deadlift motion with a neutral spine is tricky for some, natural for others.  I'm STILL learning how to do it properly.


it all just comes down to making sure you are usign the correct weight for your current level of strenght and progress

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find a weight that you are able to control, adn perform the movement correctly.........when people go super heavy, your often not helping yourslf as far as bodybuilding goes......because the muscle your trying to work is not getting the correct stress........cause a bunch o fother muscles are firing just to get the weight off the ground


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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2010, 10:51:12 PM »
yep, agreed!

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2010, 10:57:15 PM »
No straps.  Use chalk.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2010, 10:59:01 PM »
With, overhand grip.  Over/under feels weird.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2010, 11:08:16 PM »
You can do rack pulls for this effect too.

I hurt my back a lot doing deadlifts and switched to rack pulls but now I'm trying to get back into full deadlifts.  I feel like they are more effective, especially for my erectors.  Using the trap bar is also a good solution.  It's easier than a regular deadlift, especially if you use the high handles.

I think a lot of people just don't know how to do deadlifts correctly.  You have to keep a neutral spine, or at least very close to it.  Moving through a deadlift motion with a neutral spine is tricky for some, natural for others.  I'm STILL learning how to do it properly.

Its all about ROMANIAN deadlifts. This (in my opinion) is the true deadlift form. The way I do them is a partial bent leg semi straight leg approach withan emphasis on a concave back.

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Re: Deadlifts: with or without straps...
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2010, 11:12:14 PM »
its sloppy, but with this type of deadlift, its OK at the smaller poundages. I really feel, this is the best overall deadlift as far as leverage is concerned.