Author Topic: Deadlifts: with or without straps... (Read 13363 times)

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #50 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:01:12 AM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on December 08, 2010, 06:54:57 AM

Just no. Almost anyone can deadlift their max with a mixed grip, chalk and a good bar, no matter how poor their grip is.

This is obviously incorrect. A blanket statement with no evidence to support it whatsoever. If this is true, then why do even competitive powerlifters wear straps wehn training? They only don't use it in competitions where it is forbidden - and the number of wrist injuries among powerlifters is huge.

Obviously, the small tendons of the wrists cannot hoister the amount of weights that the huge muscles of the quadriceps and leg muscles can hoister. This is a scientific fact. I challenge you to present evidence that the small tendons of the wrists can become strong in proportion to the how strong the quad and back muscles can become. You cannot present such evidence because there isn't any.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #51 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:05:39 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on December 08, 2010, 07:01:12 AM

This is obviously incorrect. A blanket statement with no evidence to support it whatsoever. If this is true, then why do even competitive powerlifters wear straps wehn training? They only don't use it in competitions where it is forbidden - and the number of wrist injuries among powerlifters is huge.

They don't use straps in training. Wrist injuries happen because of the bench press.

Quote from: suckmymuscle on December 08, 2010, 07:01:12 AM

Obviously, the small tendons of the wrists cannot hoister the amount of weights that the huge muscles of the quadriceps and leg muscles can hoister. This is a scientific fact. I challenge you to present evidence that the small tendons of the wrists can become strong in proportion to the how strong the quad and back muscles can become. You cannot present such evidence because there isn't any.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Any powerlifting competition.

chaos · « **Reply #52 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:51:51 AM »

Lol @ suckshisownmuscle trying to be a little troll and being pwned.

Bunch of anti deadlifting strap wearing pussies in this thread!

claymore · « **Reply #53 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:53:43 AM »

Quote from: PJim on December 07, 2010, 09:53:58 PM

Straps, your grip WILL eventually become the limiting factor.

Agreed

local hero · « **Reply #54 on:** December 08, 2010, 08:41:12 AM »

the over under grip definatly causes alot of problems, i had constant pain in my biceps and forarms for year due to this,,, ive also tore a hamstring due to deads in general, be cautious.....

wes · « **Reply #55 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:02:42 AM »

Quote from: ~UN_$ung~ on December 07, 2010, 10:43:38 PM

it all just comes down to making sure you are usign the correct weight for your current level of strenght and progress

dont try to impress anyone, or stroke your own ego

find a weight that you are able to control, adn perform the movement correctly.........when people go super heavy, your often not helping yourslf as far as bodybuilding goes..

THIS

YngiweRhoads · « **Reply #56 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:35:56 AM »

I only use straps after my grip gives out. I do both deads and rack-pulls on occasion.

Option D · « **Reply #57 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:36:49 AM »

Quote from: Nirvana on December 07, 2010, 06:31:07 PM

I use wrist wraps to open a bottle of ketchup.

thats hilarious

Nails · « **Reply #58 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:38:57 AM »

i use straps anything more 315lb on the dead

Option D · « **Reply #59 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:41:01 AM »

Quote from: Nails on December 08, 2010, 09:38:57 AM

i use straps anything more 315lb on the dead

I used to be all about straps...but my grip was pure shit so i started over on everything w/o straps
..

the Rev Grip for dead works pretty well.. but when i do other pulling movements such as chainsaws.. im tempted to use straps. but instead i just dont go as heavy

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #60 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:53:04 AM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on December 08, 2010, 06:54:57 AM

Just no. Almost anyone can deadlift their max with a mixed grip, chalk and a good bar, no matter how poor their grip is.

You know your deadlifting.

Though it does have to do with the size of your hand and length of fingers. Very small hands will have trouble with deads, just look at the generally smaller powerlifters.

You're right, you don't have to have a very strong grip to hold a lot of weight with a well knurled bar, chalk and mixed grip. I don't have a very strong grip but I have held 1000lbs for 3 seconds in a lockout deadlift without straps, that was my grip limit I felt, obviously way over my floor max. Pure suicide from injury standpoint though.

If you have at least average sized hands and are interested in powerlifting you'll actually pull more without straps. At least most will.

Nails · « **Reply #61 on:** December 08, 2010, 10:07:09 AM »

Quote from: Option D on December 08, 2010, 09:41:01 AM

I used to be all about straps...but my grip was pure shit so i started over on everything w/o straps
..

the Rev Grip for dead works pretty well.. but when i do other pulling movements such as chainsaws.. im tempted to use straps. but instead i just dont go as heavy

What are Chainsaw pulling movements?

Option D · « **Reply #62 on:** December 08, 2010, 10:19:43 AM »

Quote from: Nails on December 08, 2010, 10:07:09 AM

What are Chainsaw pulling movements?

You know like Dumbbell Bent over rows...looks like youre starting a chainsaw

IrishMuscle84 · « **Reply #63 on:** December 08, 2010, 02:21:42 PM »

I used straps like twice...........in my opinion, good way to fuck up your hand/wrist, with no straps, if you mess up somehow, you can just drop the bar, when you use straps and mess up, you drop the bar with the strap still around the bar, you could dislocate your wrist.