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Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« on: January 28, 2011, 12:23:42 AM »
I start:

1) The chances of you looking anything like a Professional Bodybuilding unless you have the genes and use Steroids is ridicules small.
2) You can over train, sufficient rest and good sleep is more important than food and training.
3) Don't curl - start getting used to pullups
4) Squats and deadlifts are the most important core excersise
5) More is not better
6) There is more to life than lifting and eating chicken

Continue...

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 12:30:28 AM »
realy dont get where the no direct arm training theories come from????....

only a small percentage can look like a pro, but vast majority can carry alot of size in various states of condition if they put the work, food and drugs in.

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 12:35:07 AM »
Doesn't matter about gene's.  The thinner you are to the point of being an ectomorph, if you use large amounts of steroids/HGH/Insulin YOU WILL BE A PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (You just need to be rich or find a way to make money to buy them)

Take your genetic bullshit to the steroid boards like OLM, PM where all the delusional people/kids eat this stuff up.



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 12:41:09 AM »
As far as number 2 goes... Training pwns all the rest. TRAINING>sleep/rest>diet

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 12:47:59 AM »
As far as number 2 goes... Training pwns all the rest. TRAINING>sleep/rest>diet

BS!

Diet is the key! Muscle is not coming out of nothing. You need huge amounts of food to grow. All you need is decent stimulation on gym, lot of food and moderate amount of rest.

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 12:48:28 AM »
As far as number 2 goes... Training pwns all the rest. TRAINING>sleep/rest>diet

very wrong,,

check next posting

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 12:56:54 AM »
I'm talking bout natural trainers, God. And mass243, if you eat lots you will just become a fatass FACT

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 12:57:49 AM »
Well, dj, not that much  ;D

I still say, muscle is not growing out of nothing! Huge amount of nutrients is needed if growth is supposed to be rapid.

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 12:59:08 AM »
I start:

1) The chances of you looking anything like a Professional Bodybuilding unless you have the genes and use Steroids is ridicules small.
2) You can over train, sufficient rest and good sleep is more important than food and training.
3) Don't curl - start getting used to pullups
4) Squats and deadlifts are the most important core excersise
5) More is not better
6) There is more to life than lifting and eating chicken

Continue...


1. the chances of you to look and be professional bodybuild is zero if you dotn compete ,, then it is under zero if you dont have CONSISTANT USAGE OF GH ,,MEANING YOU NEED IT IN BLOOD AT ALL TIMES,, FOR LONG TIME,,YOU CAN HAV ETIME OFF BUT ONLY AFTER YOU ACHIEVED THE SIZE AIMED AT THEN  COMPETITIN BREAK AND THEN AFTER COMPETITION HOOPLA BACK ON GH ,,STEROIDS HAS TO BE THERE ALL TIME TO GROW THE FIBERS,,CONSTISTANCY OF DRUG INTAKE IS THE WAY TO PROFESIONAL CARD,,THEN RIGHT ALONG WITH IT IS ONE RESPOND TO HORMONES

2 YES YOU CAN OVERTRAIN ,,NO MATRER ON AND OFF DRUG YOU CAN ALWAYS OVERTRAIN AND PAY ATTENTION YOU DONT IT IS IMPORTANT,,

3. WORK WHAT BEST FOR YOUR ARMS ,,ONE BICEP IS NOT SAME AS OTHER ONE BICEP ,,ONE GOOD WITH CURLS THE OTHER DONT SEE A THING FROM IT BECAUSE HE HAS TRAX FORARMS,,SO HE NEED MACHINE MORE,,DO WHAT BEST FOR YOU!

4.SQUARS ARE USLESS BODYBUILD EXERCISE,,THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO NEED FOR THEM IN BODYBUILD,,HACK SQUATS YES ,,REGULAR SQUAT NODEAD LIFT IS WASTE OF TIME FOR BODYBUILD,,YES IT IS GOOD FOR FOUNDATION BUT MANY WAYS AROUND IT,,YOU ARE BODYBUILD YOU ARE NTO POWER LIFT! DRUGS AND RESPOND TO THEM IS YOUR MAIN IMPORTANCE THEN ALL THE REST

5. WRONG,,MORE IS BETTER,,HIGHER DOSE OF HGH WIL SHOW BETTER IN LEAN SIZE FOR THE BODYBUIOLDER,,HE WIL GET PAST THE TYPICAL 220 LB 8% AND GO INTO 250LB 7% ,, BUT MORE IMPORTANLY IS DURATION OF USE,,

THE LONGER!! BODYBUILD IS ON HGH THE MORE SCULPTED THE MORE LARGE THE MORE LEAN AND THE MORE STABLE HIS PHSYIQE WILL BE ,,THE DELTS AND CHEST THE GOOD STALKED THICKNESS COME ONLY FROM THAT WITH TESTOSTERONE ,,TREN IS WHERE THE FREAK FACTOR COME INTO PLAY WHEN ADDED TO GH AND TESTOSTERONA,,BUT WITH GH THE LONGER YOU ARE ON THE LONGER TIMES THE MORE CLOSE YOU GET TO PROFESSIONAL CARD,,REMEMBER MY WORDS PUPILS,,
WHEN IT COME TO LIFTING YOU ARE RIGHT,,MORE IS NOT BETTER,,LIFT SMART AND EFFIEICIANT ,,DONT GO 2 HOUR LIFTING GO 45 MIN LIFTING AND INTENSE ,,

6 ONLY IF YOU DO BODYBUILD FOR FUN THEN YES,,BUT MOST INDIVIDUAL ON SITE LIKE THIS ADORE BODYBUILD AND CONSIDER THEMELVES BODYBUILDERS ,,THEY WANT TO ADVANCE ,,YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ELSE THEN BODYBUILD INORDER TO ADVANCE,,IT HAS TO BE 24 7 AND IT HAS TO BE WITH ALL THE HORMONES NEEDED THAT INCLUDE HGH THAT IS MUST! AND STEROIDS WHICH IS ABSOLIT MUST AT ANY AGE ,,HGH IS MORE MUST INTO THE LATER 20S BUT HGH IN GENERAL FOR ADVANCMENT IN BODYBUKD IS MUST AT ANY AGE IF WANT TO GET TOP AMATUER OR PRO CARD,,

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 01:01:25 AM »
AND! the only time you need huge amount of nutritient is when you have the right doses of hormoens in system ,, mainly hgh ,,on steroid only you do not need to over feed,,even on hgh not always,,btu on hgh at right doses for prolonging time thats when you get to the huge calorie you hear about from the michael phelps of the worlds,,if you are member of football team americana you know this well,,you eat a lot of calorie inreturn to all you can eat gh buffer,,they are on constant usage of gh,,thats why can still pull decent shape while walking so large,,

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 01:04:34 AM »
I'm talking bout natural trainers, God. And mass243, if you eat lots you will just become a fatass FACT

I fucking hate it when people give that kind of advice to young guys..."eat a lots of food, to grow"...thats no different than being a legit fatass. This way you only giving "growth stimulus" to your ass and gut.

just eat normal calories, some protein, moderate carbs, train and rest.


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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 01:05:30 AM »
AND! the only time you need huge amount of nutritient is when you have the right doses of hormoens in system ,, mainly hgh ,,on steroid only you do not need to over feed,,even on hgh not always,,btu on hgh at right doses for prolonging time thats when you get to the huge calorie you hear about from the michael phelps of the worlds,,if you are member of football team americana you know this well,,you eat a lot of calorie inreturn to all you can eat gh buffer,,they are on constant usage of gh,,thats why can still pull decent shape while walking so large,,

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 01:08:52 AM »
If huge amounts of nutrients are needed for muscle growth, then how's come it's possible to gain muscle on a calorie deficit "diet"? In fact, I am doing this exact thing at da moment, and wit a lifetime natural status ;D Time for some curls 8)

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2011, 01:12:39 AM »
If huge amounts of nutrients are needed for muscle growth, then how's come it's possible to gain muscle on a calorie deficit "diet"? In fact, I am doing this exact thing at da moment, and wit a lifetime natural status ;D Time for some curls 8)

Oh boy ... my car also produces it's own fuel  ;D


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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 01:13:52 AM »
If huge amounts of nutrients are needed for muscle growth, then how's come it's possible to gain muscle on a calorie deficit "diet"? In fact, I am doing this exact thing at da moment, and wit a lifetime natural status ;D Time for some curls 8)

Essential amount of nutrients + calorie deficit = quality growth.

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2011, 01:16:54 AM »
If huge amounts of nutrients are needed for muscle growth, then how's come it's possible to gain muscle on a calorie deficit "diet"? In fact, I am doing this exact thing at da moment, and wit a lifetime natural status ;D Time for some curls 8)

You must be the dumbest guy on the internet.

It has been explained to you many times, now ONE LAST TIME: In transition times from bulk to cut or vice versa, you can build muscle on a diet or cut fat on a bulk. This is ONLY because your body needs a certain time to adapt, THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

It is really sad you don't understand this concept, no matter how many times it is explained to you.
Go on with this for another 4 weeks, and it will stop.

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2011, 01:35:05 AM »
Exactly meso_z ;)

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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2011, 01:39:31 AM »
You must be the dumbest guy on the internet.

It has been explained to you many times, now ONE LAST TIME: In transition times from bulk to cut or vice versa, you can build muscle on a diet or cut fat on a bulk. This is ONLY because your body needs a certain time to adapt, THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

It is really sad you don't understand this concept, no matter how many times it is explained to you.
Go on with this for another 4 weeks, and it will stop.
If i "bulk" up to 260 trey brewer style i would probably be 240 shredded when i "cut"!!! how many times you have heard guys on boards or in real life saying this.  ;D

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2011, 01:40:37 AM »
Allright DK, so what is the stimulus for muscle growth? P.S. It's not protein.

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2011, 01:46:18 AM »
Allright DK, so what is the stimulus for muscle growth? P.S. It's not protein.

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2011, 02:56:58 AM »
You must be the dumbest guy on the internet.

It has been explained to you many times, now ONE LAST TIME: In transition times from bulk to cut or vice versa, you can build muscle on a diet or cut fat on a bulk. This is ONLY because your body needs a certain time to adapt, THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

It is really sad you don't understand this concept, no matter how many times it is explained to you.
Go on with this for another 4 weeks, and it will stop.

References for that theory?

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2011, 03:05:13 AM »
Ronnie Dean Coleman always seemed to eat very little. At least on his videos... extremely small portions for someone his size (excluding breakfast) ???
Ronnies meals were nothing but a peanut compared to Jays for example.

But he is only bodybuilder I know that ate so little. Maybe dj181 is really Ronnie himself  :o

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2011, 06:20:40 AM »
I start:

1) The chances of you looking anything like a Professional Bodybuilding unless you have the genes and use Steroids is ridicules small.
2) You can over train, sufficient rest and good sleep is more important than food and training.
3) Don't curl - start getting used to pullups
4) Squats and deadlifts are the most important core excersise
5) More is not better
6) There is more to life than lifting and eating chicken

Continue...

I agree with the bolded ones.

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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2011, 06:28:30 AM »
 It makes me feel good
The wife likes to sex me up and she likes my firm butt.  ;D
Its cheaper than a therapist
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Re: Bodybuilding / Weigtlifting - the truth (add your truth points)
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2011, 06:33:56 AM »
I think its funny every thread like this is always started by someone that looks he never touched a barbell. Yea, you are enlightened with the truth  ::)